Oh No! Is anyone with 3D going to Samsung S II ???
 

I just read that the Galaxy S II is coming to Sprint. It will be called Within?

I just got my 3D last month.

Anyone of you here switching over to S II?

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Not me. Samsung makes awesome TVs. But don't trust their phones! Epic sucks and the others did too............. My 2 cents

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I just returned my second 3D for another 3D last night - first it wouldn't turn on all the way through the startup sequence got to about 10 seconds of being on (not even close to making it through all the Sprint nonsense) before it would die. I hard reset it by using the volume down during turn on so I could reset it to factory defaults and it would fully boot again. However the phone would randomly turn off or make phone calls after that so I got another one today. I hadn't even installed a single app so it was doing the random reboots on a stock set up.

I have until the 29th to return it which I'll very likely do. It is a great phone but there seem to be some manufacturing issues.

I hope they have it the SGSII tomorrow as some rumors suggest.

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Not planning to get the SGSII, I love my Evo 3D.

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Seriously? Another apple in front of this donkey!

Did you actually use an Epic? I have one, and it definetly doesn't suck! Blows the Evo away especially in gpu stats.Also have a samsung tv that rocks.

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Can't deal with Sammy. I work at Best Buy an the Epic is always a return phone. We rarely have EVO returns. Sammy is a bright screen but buggy software, Support for the phone is horrible an to the regular customer who knows nothing about rooting they hate that the it takes forever for a software update to come to fix the problems with the phone. Now that SGSII i believe will be a powerhouse of a phone so i wont knock it until i get my hands on one but until Sammy shows me differently an not just try an catch my attention with a bright screen i'll stick with my 3D

Played with one in Germany, buggy off the bat. My evo personally hasn't had any issues, and I like there's update support, so far. Both phones look awesome in their own right though. Bet id be happy with it if that's what I had, haha. Even without sense, which I like a lot. I'm not thinking of switching at all.

There is no way I'd give up my Evo 3D for a Galaxy S 2.

Now that rumored 3D Samsung phone, I might be interested in that if the specs were right. But I like taking 3D pictures and videos way too much to go back to a 2D phone.

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Yes I actually used the Samsung epic.... I also actually used the Samsung galaxy S on T-Mobile. Only thing i DID like about them the screens were awesome. But the EVO 3D fixed that. When i had my EVO 4G the ppl with the Samsung phones liked it better. BTW its almost 2012 who uses phones with physical keyboards nowadays?!?! LMAO sorry I had to. Samsung LED TVs are awesome tho!!

I used the epic back when I had my evo 4g and although the samsung had a better screen and sometimes smoother running processor I still kept my evo. My evo never gave me any problems. Now that I have 3d I have a qhd screen instead of amoled which fixes that issue plus a faster processor. Plus htc has faster updates and I've always liked the look of htc hardware more than samsung. Don't get me wrong, I would gladly use sgs2 but right now I've been happy with htc and don't plan on changing anytime soon.

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I still have an EVO and Epic... both great devices actually. Not sure why there's so much hate for the Epic. I could understand preferring the EVO (because I did), but the Epic is a solid phone too. At least it can run the more impressive live wallpapers and games without lagging. Plus you can actually take pics with the Epic and not throw up at the results...

Hardware-wise, the EVO had just as many issues (if not more) than the Epic. HTC quality control completely sucks, yet they get a pass because they've been a leader for so long. Samsung got a lot of flack for their software updating fiasco, but you have to believe they'll eventually come around and deliver on-time with future devices. Their jump in the market sort of came out of nowhere withe the Galaxy S line. That couldn't have been an easy transition for them. Now they're selling arguably the hottest phone right now in the GS2... they'll get it right on the updating side of the equation.

Anyway, if Sprint keeps the slim design and Exynos processor, then I may get the GS2 on my second line. I'm wondering if Samsung will throw in Tegra 2 chips for the US variants tho... that would make the phone significantly less attractive imo. Still keeping the E3D even if I get one.

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I own the 58 inch 3d tv by Samsung...I own the 3d Blu-ray player...i have the top dog samsung home theater....i also have the samsung rf710 laptop that i'm using to type this(very nice for the price)...that said...when it comes to their phones...i can't do it..it takes more than a "pretty display" to impress me. HTC makes an all around more impressive phone. For what it's worth I switched all my home theater components to samsung from SONY!!! That's how impressed i am with the overall name brand SAMSUNG...but their phones?....not so much..

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i'm taking a wait and see approach. returned my evo3d on friday (liked the phone a lot but it had a few problems).

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Samsung couldnt get flip phones right. Wouldn't ever want one of their wacked out "smart" phones lol. Who sells more phones again? I do love my samsung led tv but not the green overscan line when on the smooth setting.

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I have had numerous HTC phones within 2 weeks of their release. The list is as follows: 6700; 6800' touch; touch pro; touch pro II. The main reason that i used HTC phones was the scribe feature that only HTC phones used. When the EVO came out at the same time the EPIC came out, the HTC did not put the scribe feature ont the EVO. Since I have a disability in my hands, it is hard for me to use on screen keybords. So I switch brands to the EPIC because of the the keyboard. I really liked the EPIC. I feel that I am qualified to compare the EPIC vs. the HTC line. I never had any of the problems that other people were saying they were having. The EPIC was every bit as good as any of my HTC phones were. Before I started using HTC phones, I only used Samsung phones and never had anycomplaints.

I took my phone to a Sprint service center because the micro port had become loose and would not charge. There was a small crack in the upper left and Spint said that it was damged and they could not repair it. So after telling the retention dept that (nice old school trick) was canceling my 5 lines, they gave me a $100 credit and told me I could use the $150 upgrade from one of my other lines to replace my phone.

Having $250 worth of "paper" money, I took a look at the EVO 3D. the one feature that sold me was the FM Radio tuner. Yes, the EPIC did not support any of the market FM Tuner apps. However, the EVO 3D did. So I went back to the HTC brand. It was like going back to one of your old girlfiends; it just felt right. And yes, the scirbe feature is still not available...

I quess the comparision is on the same level as are you a MAC or PC person? Whatever you feel comfortable with.

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I'm going to to buy another 3d. Add them together and I have 6d's.

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Moved to Phone comparison. Thanks.

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People who actually do work on their phone? I remote connect to manage servers..using a software keyboard eats away half the screen which is unacceptable...and looking for certain characters and copy and paste is a drag on software keyboards..hardware keyboards are VITAL for professional use.

That said, Epic is an awesome phones..I used it stock for month with little to no issues...

If you still have that Epic, contact Samsung directly..they should repair it...Then you can keep it as a spare..

The Epic had the FM Tuner locked by Sprint, its there just not working due to sprint locking it..I hear some roms were able to get it to work on some phones..

I was about to do that >.> lol..oh well..

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I have a Samsung TV. That's it.. HTC makes better phones, plain and simple. Switching from An Evo 3d to ANY Samsung device is like buying a v12 aston martin and then trading it in for a v8 because it was too fast! ha! the best analogy I could come up with.

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umm..thats a poor analogy because if we are measuring raw speed Epic is faster then the Evo and SGS2 is faster then the Evo 3d..

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Looks like Samsung did! With Apple 2nd, and Nokia in 3rd. HTC failed to get honorable mention.

Report says Samsung smartphone sales might have surpassed those of the Apple iPhone - Phone Arena

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It's certainly not faster at receiving updates, lol.

It's not faster at recording 3D videos either.

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Samsung actually updates quite often..the bigger problem is the carrier upgrade speed..If carriers don't do customization this time around the upgrade speed would improve tremendously..

Though at same time its kinda works out in a different way..for example Epic took longer to get Froyo, but when it got it it got 2.2.1 which evo 4g never got...Evo got gingerbread first but got 2.3.3 while Epic is going to get gingerbread with 2.3.4 soon. (To my knowledge Evo did not get official 2.3.4 yet..I "think")

But ill tell you this Samsung stuff definitely root faster...

um..so...if 3d is important to you that is understandable..but most people are fine either way...

I thought processing speed of tasks on the two devices was similar. The epic beat the EVO in benchmarks because of the gpu.

On another note, I like Android. I'm writing this on my 3D now and due to a problem with my EVO4G, Sprint is replacing it with a nexus s! Super stoked!

tapa tapa tapa

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It wins in both GPU and CPU scores...

Welcome to the dark side :P

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Good one!!! LMAO

Yes, the epic is faster than evo. But the sgs2 is about the same compared to the evo 3d. The evo 3d is 1.2 snapdragon and sgs2 is cortex a-9 and when compared they are not too far off in testing.
One thing sgs2 will kill 3d in is memory. It comes in either 16gb or 32gb internal, 3d is only 4g.
But again, it's all about what you prefer to use. I like samsung but I prefer htc because their phones are alittle but more solid and they release updates alot faster. In the end its about what works for you and who you like the most. I myself prefer htc sense and more updates over samsung touch wiz and fewer updates.

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When looking at benchmarks that support dual core processors..SGS2 seems to be doing 25%-50% better on both cpu and gpu.

Touchwiz launcher is not so bad and with new 4.0 version its very light, you can actually load up 4.0 on all android phones if you want to play around ith it...

The big difference I think which gives Samsung the edge is they create their own processors, so the TouchWiz framework is not bloatware like on other phones.. it actually helps speed up the phone...hence an Epic with gingerbread actually beats a nexus s with gingerbread due to nexus s missing the framework.

On terms of upgrades its a 2 way thing..Samsung actually updates fairly open and they send a test build almost every week..so we had like 4-5 gingerbread leaked roms so far...so as you can guess the international version updates even more often.

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gTen I've seen you claim this often, but you are comparing an underclocked phone with broken drivers pushing 33% more pixels so of course by current methods it will appear to be inferior, as to raw specs the adreno220 actually triangulates more and general cpu/gpu performance is tantamount. Let's bench the Hercules vs the GS2 and then you can start naming stats, as it stands before custom ROMs and HTC OTAs the GS2 will outperform the 3D, but that has nothing to do with hardware. The vibrant had good hardware but runs stock like shit and similarly would be unfair for me to say that the hummingbird is fubar because you can't even slide screens without insane lag on a cappy or a vibrant.

Personally I chose not to go with the 3D because the 3D seems gimmicky, I don't need 2 five MP cameras, and I don't need all this 3D crap draining my battery, I also hate both the 3D and Sensation stock ROMs and neither one is optimized to take advantage of the asynchronous cores.

If you need better performance NOW then get an SGS2, if you want a phone with hardware that more devs and game/app makers will support then hang on to your 3D. I don't see EA and all the big namers making games specifically optimized for the exynos.

I also like SLCD qHD more than SAMOLED+ WVGA but that's a personal preference.

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Haven't you guys learned by now? When you see gTen in a Samsung thread, it's game over. The dude is a major Samsung fanboy. If anyone, in any thread, says one even remotely negative thing about Samsung, he will be there to defend all that is good and holy to him.

Just let it die. We all know there is a reason that HTC sells way more smartphones than Samsung (even if the Galaxy S 2 sells more than any 1 of them because HTC calls them all something different on each carrier even when it's really the same , I don't think anyone is denying that HTC sells more overall smartphones than Samsung). So if gTen refuses to admit it, just let him continue on in his own Samsung paradise world. I seriously wonder if he works for Samsung or is from Korea and been fed the Samsung propaganda his whole life or something.

Oh, and by the way gTen, once again this year all the biggest movies are in 3D. If "most" people don't care about 3D as you said, I sure can't tell. Even your precious Samsung has started working on a 3D version of the Galaxy S 2, so clearly they know that people do care about 3D. It just took HTC to do it first so they could copy them again.

And I don't even have anything against Samsung. It's just when I see gTen doing his Samsung cheerleader bit, it makes me want to lash out against anything Samsung.

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That is irrelevant in CPU scores, as for GPU scores, smartbench renders at wvga to on both devices to account for the resolution so they are on even ground. They are also running on the same CPU frequency so its fair game.

Even the original sgs has gpu performance on par with the adreno220 minus the new features of the gpu. The SGS2 has quad core mali which is estimated to be 120M triangles a sec where adreno 220 is 88M triangles a sec

um..Hercules is a 4.5" SGS2....why does it need to be benched against itself?

That is due to the RFS filesystem used on the original SGS series...SGS 2 does not use RFS anymore...


They all seem to be optimizing for the Tegra 2 actually lol...on the bright side though...the MALI gpu used is the official GPU of ARM....

no..not really...

um..HTC sold 11 million smartphones in Q2...Samsung sold between 18 and 21 million (exact numbers will be july 29th)..so apparently either you or the whole world is in denial..your choice...

The answer is no to both, I do not work for samsung neither am I korean or even asian for that matter...any more allegations you would like to add? As I said before to you 1000x..I am fine with any manufacturer, I just want to see variety...as I currently have a Samsung phone it is easier for me to explain them then other brands such as LG, Huwai, ZTE, Motorola which I don't have...

3D is cool in theaters..but even on TVs its so and so and on a smartphone its a meh...There is a reason why TV sales are down...cause the majority don't care for 3D much...aka its one of those features that wouldn't hurt but not a deal breaker for most. and for 25$ you can make any screen 3d and better then the parralex barrier used on the Evo3d too...

also LG was first to the 3D game actually..just not in the US...so if your willing to admit that HTC copied LG, ill admit Samsung copied HTC...

And ironically I don't really have anything against HTC :/ lol

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because hercules uses a snap with a adreno...

edit: And they are certainly not optimized for the mali because it doesn't even support texture compression but for ETC...

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Uh, yeah, TV sales are down because people don't care about 3D. And home sales must be down because people don't want to put a 3D tv in their new home, right?

Priceless. We're in the middle of a global economic disaster and the reason TV sales are down is because people don't care about 3D. LOL

By the way, 3D on smartphones is great. Go buy yourself one and try it before you go spouting off about things you don't know. I went on a major trip right after the Evo 3D was released and now that I am home I have a bunch of 3D pictures and videos that look AWESOME on my 3D tv. All made possible because I happened to have a 3D smartphone with me at all times.

And there is no way you can spend $25 and convert a 55 inch tv into a 3D tv. There is also no way you can spend $25 and have your phone start shooting 3D pictures and videos. Again, you make it obvious that you have no idea what you're talking about. Nobody is buying a 3D smartphone so they can watch movies on it. Yeah, it's nice to be able to do that, I guess. But the main attraction is you can MAKE 3D movies on it. You need a 3D screen to be able to do that, but the 3D cameras are the main attraction there. The screen is just there to support the cameras. And in 15 years when everything is 3D, you'll be wishing you had realized this sooner, as you look at old 2D pictures and videos on your big screen 3D tv.

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I missed that article..yes apparently it does.

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Gameloft HD Games Optimized for Qualcomm's Snapdragon CPUs - Softpedia

Qualcomm brings forth the Game Pack for Android phones with the Snapdragon chip in them

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That's not actually ironic :twisted:

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Gameloft optimizes for Exynos since they are the provider for Samsung's gaming hub lol

There are a few companies on board since as I said Samsung does not need to look for partners to optimize...see Tegra and Qualcomm need it because they make their own GPUs..Samsung on the other hand uses ARM's MALI chipset which is made by ARM..the creators of the Cortex A9...they are the one bringing the optimized partners on board as MALI is made by ARM, not Samsung.

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And phone sales are up....cause? While we are in an economic disaster we have been for a while..you can get a 3D TV for cheap too.the problem is 3D is not big enough motivation to swap...simple as that...as I said before..I dont mind 3d in theaters..but even on a 55" screen its not the same...

As I said before..its a nice gimmicky thing..but its not a deal breaker for most people..reading the evo3d forum it seems most people don't care too much for the 3d...not saying they hate it but they would have been fine either way..

you make too many sacrifices on 2d aspect for 3d atm :/

not for 25$...but it can be done..though I dont see why...

As I said before..its a gimmick.for one the 3D tech we use now is not REAL 3D..in 15 years we will have REAL 3D..then maybe it will be worth it...so far I'd rather take a higher quality 2D picture/video over a lower quality 3D one...

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That's not the point, a lot of games made specifically for snap/tegra don't run well or at all on mali because of the texture compression issue amonst others and the fact that arm creates the cortex and the mali doesn't mitigate performance and compliance issues. You have to look at actual compatibility.

but I tire of the comparison.

You've validated the point that comparing the SGS2 to the 3D in current state unmodded is like comparing the Evo4G to the Vibrant, flawed.