How Microsoft could have overtaken the Smarthphone market....
 

I'm a Windows fanboy and probably will be for a long time. If and when Windows Phone 7 (or 8) changes, I might go back but after having the pleasure of using the Epic and Android, it is obvious that Microsoft dropped the ball big time with Windows Phone 7. Plain and simple, Microsoft's slogan for the WP7 should have been as follows:

"The simplicity of the iPhone with the versatility of an Android."

The problem is, they only followed the first half of the idea but did not complete the second half.

I believe Microsoft Windows Phone 7 will be a distant 3rd (or 4th) for years to come until they adapt to today's market. I really hope they do, Windows Phone 7 is a good product, but it could be a GREAT product if Microsoft had a greater vision....

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again with this nonsense? do u go to wpcentral or wmpoweruser at all? tons of good news about what MS has planned for wp7.

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wp7 is expected to overtake iphone and blackberry by 2015

Gartner: Windows Phone will overtake iPhone, BlackBerry by 2015 | The Microsoft Blog - seattlepi.com

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Anybody can make "plans" but until they follow through with a product, Windows iPhone 7 will be in last place. I don't pay for the plans, i pay for the product!

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Love this statement from the article:

Even if Windows iPhone 7 rises to 19.5%, it still has a looooong way to go to get to the top.....

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it will be in 2nd place right below Android and above the iPhoney and I wish that u would stop calling it that. wp7 is better than the iPhoney.

Wirelessly posted (WP7 Beta Tester: Opera/9.70 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en) TMO-US_LEO)

I don't know why you even bother eric, we both know he was a fandroid in disguise.

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I am now, thanks to Windows iPhone 7! Honestly, I will probably return once they make it more versatile....

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Remember kids, don't feed the trolls.

http://marketmynovel.com/images/Dont...the-Trolls.png

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You fellows are getting ridiculous. Anyone who criticizes Windows Phone 7 is a troll? Get off your hight horse. As reported on ZD Net, there's a backlash out there of "early adopters" of Windows 7 phones for the many of the same reasons stated in this thread and others. I don't want to go to Android or the fruit company and am hanging on to my TP 2 at present. I would really like to see Windows Phone 7 improved before I give up what I have now.

Eric, if you could do so in complete sentences with correct capitalization, I'd like you to tell me what MS has "planned" for Windows Phone 7. I hope these plans include better updating than what we've seen so far. Multiple e-mail account synching? What about tethering? Customized ring tones? Multi-tasking? Non-date GPS? Drag and drop ability in interacting with PCs? Since these things were built into WM 6.5 and earlier versions, I'm surprised that MS took a step backward by not including them in 7.

Now, these may not be important features to you or others enamored of Windows Phone 7. That's ok, but it is certainly inappropriate to attempt to silence others who find their absence lacking.

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I don't think anyone is trying to silence anyone. the OP has numerous posts before this one claiming his disgust or disliking of WP7 and its current features or missing features that the OP feels makes this phone a FAIL to him.

I personally have no issues with the phone. I like it yes i miss some of the features like copying files to it (EX. movies, mp3's) using Windows explorer. but given time these will all happen. I think that most that have an issue with the phone think that MS should have released a OS that has every feature that current other OS'es have. When android was released it didnt even have some support for common music files now thats been fixed. you cant expect MS to have every feature on release day NO one has that it all comes with updates afterwards and input from USER's.

That's my 2 cents on the subject like it or not

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plus one ^. his first thread was asking for help with his arrive...but by then, he had already jumped ship. he can like whatever he wants, starting this thread in this section was going to start some kind of trouble, the op knew it and here we are. i personally don't get paid to use any of these os'es, this is entertainment to me :).

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not to mention him ridiculing us for trying to help and then coming back here after he got his epic with the same nonsense.

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Moved to "phone comparison"

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And all I'm thinking for now is letting this thread blow over like a fart in church. It'll die on its own as we all know that with time comes issues with all our toys regardless of what they are.

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If you put op on "ignore list" your problems will be solved.

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My Samsung Focus arrives Monday! I'm very excited by this probably going to start a thread in the arrive forum with some WP questions.

Judging by what's been said here (this forum, not this thread) it seems WP7 is pretty stable, still in its infancy, and getting better over time. Sure early adopters are suffering through a few quirks, but that's Microsoft's fault for being so late to the party. Apple was in the same boat, instead of quirks they just left a boatload of features out at first. So I don't expect a perfect phone but I expect to learn a lot about MS's new direction.

Anyone can say whatever they want, I'm not going to judge WP7 until I use it myself and give it time to mature.

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real talk

ive seen it. and it looks like this...
http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/u...gemargeev2.jpg
what is this "kapitulizashun" you speak of?

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All Microsoft have to do is make the code more open n allow users to tweak it.

Do not clam it down.

Which ever OS has the most warez win!

WP7 is not off to a good start.

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Good to see you back bro :).

I agree. Appealing to the average user and the geeks who like to tweak their phones alike.

Tapa tapa tapa

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now that the thread was moved to its proper place, i can respond and stay on topic. MS won't go wrong with wp7 as long as they stop treating their products like little children with toys...MS will come out with something because the other guy is doing it, make it nice...but then just up and pull the plug and does something different. as much belly-aching i read about winmo, if MS would've kept development coming and updated winmo regularly...it would've been a beast out there.

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I really hope the programmers at Microsoft have their eyes open to this Windows iPhone 7 nonsense. They had a really good product, but locking it down and forcing users to use their propriatery software is ridiculous. I used to love Windows and that is why I took a chance on Windows iPhone 7, but now it seems that Android will be the standard and hopefully Microsoft can adapt.

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Since we're sharing, here's my humble opinion;
If you want an extremely versatile & customizable phone; get Android or stick with 6.5 for a while until wp7 (hopefully) grows up.

I was worried I was going to be locked in my apt the first few days of ownership, nope. Is it Iphoney, perhaps. Maybe that's why I am still experiencing customization withdrawals, dunno.

In the end wp7 makes my girlfriend happy, just like the commercials said =)

YouTube - Bedroom Really | New Windows Phone 7 Official Ad

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Just my two cents, but...

I completely disagree with the people who are crying out about "customization." I loved being able to tweak my TP2 and change all sorts of things about it to suit my own liking. But the reason I loved that was because it was the only GOOD thing about Windows Mobile 6.5.

I owned an HTC TP2 before I went over to the HTC Arrive. That thing was customizable to the nth degree, but it would also crash twice a day, not allow me to answer calls, would lock up when opening a text, go into the dreaded "sleep of death" and had numerous other flaws. It basically got to the point where it was almost un-usable. It was to the point that my phone wasn't even working as a phone at all. Granted, I was running the stock Sprint ROM, but the fact of the matter is that I should NEVER have to install some other unofficial ROM to make the phone work "better." It should work right out of the box.

That's what the Arrive does. It works. I have not run into a single problem with the phone. It fetches e-mail, it browses the internet, it doesn't freeze when I open up my text messages, and it actually works as a phone, which was hard to say for my old TP2 on some days. If it means I can't tweak some things so that the phone can work, then I can live with that sacrifice. People love the iPhone because, if you will excuse the phrase, "it just plain works." That is what people want these days. Something that works, not something like WM6.5.

Windows Phone 7 is stable. It works and that is more than I can say for my old TP2 with WM6.5. I will always forsake those little tweaks that can be made for something that delivers a solid performance that I can rely on.

That's been my experience anyway. Take from it what you will.

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android has "just worked" for 2 years now and is still fully customizable. wp7 is a little late to the perty.

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Late to the party and completely unprepared. Microsoft could have hit a Grand Slam with this new iperating system, but instead they grounded out.....

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Having a custom rom work better does not mean it does not work out of box...just means that it can get better..for example..if you overclock you phone to 1.2ghz..it would obviously work better...no matter how good the manufacturer makes something, there will aways be room for improvement....

Another example is things like wireless tether where they want to charge you 30$ a month extra..using modifications you can get that for free...or when carrier pre-loads carrier IQ on your phone you can get that removed..so there is always room to make something "better" no matter how good it initially is...

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Good points all. I have tweaked my TP2 often resulting in having to do a hard re-set. But I like to tinker, I like to tether when WI-FI isn't available and most of all, I like to experiment with different apps. Ballmer said it all when he said that WM 6.5 was for computers with phones and W 7 is for phones with computers. I like the former, you like the latter. That is what makes America great. I will vote with my feet and go to an Epic unless W7 evolves to my preferences.

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I apologize. When I stated "customization" I meant simple things such as a choice in how to transfer files, background photos, applications in different pages, multiple home screen pages, etc... NOT flashing or hacking the device to get things to work....

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LMAO! 95% agree. I already new I wouldn't be totally locked in. Iphoney or not, I love that it works out of the box and the wife is HAPPY too .... except for the fact I still have my TP2 to satisfy those withdrawals. I win!