Pre vs Blackberry
 

Hey guys. I currently have a touch pro which hardly works even though I never dropped the stupid thing. Anyway my contract is up in oct and I am trying to decide between the pre and a blackberry. Has anyone here used both of them? If so which do you like better? One thing that I like about the blackberry is that I can use my SERO plan on it (I think). So let me know your thoughts.

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Both devices are great. I have owned them all. I am currently using my new Palm Pre putting my Touch Pro on vacation. I think it depends on how you use your phone and what you need it to do.. I am definetelynot missing my laggy touch pro.. The Palm Pre has absolutely NO lag whatsoever and I never have to do soft reset other than after an update. The new BlackBerry Tour 9630 is out now but I don't have it yet. I'm sure it's a great phone but the BlackBerry web browser sucks that's why I don't want one again. Go find some reviews and specs on both and I would personally go with the Palm Pre. It's the device to have and it's literally waaaaaaaaaay better than a Touch Pro or BlackBerry. Plus there's going to be a LOT of improvements, updates, software, apps etc to come! Good Luck!

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How is the pre with organizational tasks like planners and calendars? Ive heard bbs are great at that.

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How is the pre with organizational tasks like planners and calendars? Ive heard bbs are great at that.

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Honestly I haven't used the calander yet, but I did see plenty of options to set appointments etc. and the ui looked great like the rest of the Pre's features. With everything coming to the Pre in the near future and the current BlackBerries soon becoming the "older" generation, I would lean towards the Pre because webos has TONS more potential. The Palm Pre will most definetely have the most developed apps/tools/etc that anyonone could ever want or need. Got to the Sprint Store and spend some time on their demo phones and you decide what is best for you. Email is EXCELLENT on the Palm Pre by the way. I thought BlackBerry could never be beat on handling email... well I was wrong because the Pre handles email great and even has instant push email like the BlackBerries as well as options for scheduled email sending/recieving if you choose. Deleting an email is a simple swipe of your finger and it's gone! Contacts handling is THE BEST I have ever seen on any phone! The Palm Pre has a backup feature along with your very own Palm profile so that you never lose your important information no matter what. The Pre is far more advanced than people realize and it hasn't even been fully "equipped" yet so you can imagine all the endless possibilities with WebOs. I have NO intentions of returning or exchanging my Palm Pre! I wouldn't dare exchange it for the new BlackBerry tour because I know that it has it's limits and personally I need a great multimedia device and right now the Pre can't be beat! Go see for yourself...try the youtube, web browser, vibrant capacitive touch screen, and pay attention to the completely lagg free WebOs and keyboard along with much better battery life and you will se what I'm talking about. The Pre is where it's at and will continue to be...don't miss out call customer support and inquire about a free early upgrade option!

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With the exception of the noticeable lack of paragraphs, I fully agree. Go Pre!

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How is the pre with organizational tasks like planners and calendars? Ive heard bbs are great at that.

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Sorry about all the triple posts. My internet is acting up. Thanks for the advice. I think im gonna look into early upgrade option.

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Sound good... let us know if Sprint accomodates you.

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Who would I talk to about the early upgrade? I talked to cs and they said they couldnt do it.

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speak to cancellation, they will do anything to keep you

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I haven't read all the posts because I don't really care, but my boss recently returned his FOURTH Pre because of the chintzy hardware problems (the Pre is no better than the TP in that regard) & went back to a BB for now.

~John

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I havent had any problems with my Pre (knock on wood), and i use the crap out of it, i let my customers use it all day long and dont have any of the issues reported in the many threads out there. Palms Synergy rocks, that will keep your calendar and appointments available with as little trouble to get to them as possible. I get email faster on my pre than my fellow coworkers with Blackberrys. If you arent on the BES then i would go with the pre, especially if you are in a TP right now.

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My wife just dropped her Pre from lap height and its still solid. The web browsing is amazing on it! the calendar is great as well! tasks aren't as good imo

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The Pre kept me organized, love how it kept my iCal, Google, and mobile calendar synched.

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Let me clear this up for those who might be considering the Palm Pre. The numererous claims of "chintzy" hardware/ slide keyboard are bs and coming from individuals with a "unique" talent for finding a reason to not be satisfied. It's ridiculous to have to return a phone 4 times because they where all miraculously having the same hardware issue. Sometimes exchanges are completely necessary but in this case I seriously doubt it.

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Great info in this thread, however, no one commented on the OPs question about the SERO plan. From what I know, you can't put the Pre on a Sero line...right?

-s

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Pre cant be used on a sero plan, needs to be on an everything data plan.

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i completely agree

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Eventually you might but I suspect it will be awhile....

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i Have the Pre and the Tour! the tour is my main line and the pre is my second line! Trufully the tour is COMPLETE! u can do any and everything and the tour has is by far one of the best BBerrys out its loaded and with all the apps and now the better broswer! ounce skyfire is offical for the tour! watchout now! BUT I LOVE MY TOUR! the pre will get there when it gets there! im just alittle pissed that we didnt get it complete palm was slacking for how many years now they had time!

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Although I'm the one who posted that (& I didn't make it up), I completely agree with you.

I have three TouchPro's (all running custom ROM's & the original is from early November) & have never had to have any of them replaced. I see the posts from people that are on their 10th TouchPro & wonder what the heck all the replacements where for...........

~John

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I have gad a touch pro for about a yr now. and im running might rom 5. for the longest i havent had any problems. but now its messing up real bad. like sometimes i cant even get into my texts.

my older brother got the pre and didnt like it becuz it the pre falls the right way you will get 3 cracks in the screen right over the center button. and then my GF dropped her pre and it crack the screen in the same spot.

My brother now has the Blackberry Tour and he said that the phone is 1000000x better than the pre. he said its easier to text and the battery last ALOT longer. and nowadays battery life is very important to me. so ill most likely skip over the pre and get the blackberry.

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If u drop any phone the right way u will crack the screen.When it comes to the better batt. and texting I would give the nod to the tour,but not saying he pre has a bad keyboard r batt. life(it def last longer than my touch pro r diamond with a smaller batt.)Plus the Pre's batt. life will only get better with software updates.Where the Pre out shines the Tour is the OS.The Pre's multitasking is the best,web browsing is great,the multimedia experience is much better,and the Pre's UI just crushs the Tours.The blackberry OS is basically the same as 3 years ago only a little prettier.In the end though it depends on what your looking for.

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I would have to say the Pre is a little more delicate than most phones. and i got the Tour last night and im loving it. but it does come down to what you want. i just got tired of taking my charger everywhere.

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As far as sliders go its pretty sturdy to me,it feels better put together than my TP.I'v dropped the phone three times already(butter fingers)twice on ceramic tile at work.The best put together phone I'v had was the Vogue(man that phone took a beating).The Tour is a nice phone and being a Blackberry it will have great batt. life and just work.

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I have the Palm Pre and the BB Tour. I'm a long time BB user and fan but seriously the Pre give the Tour a bad case of red @ss via a sever spanking in every category except battery life and world phone compatability which most don't need. To say the BB Tour is better than the Palm Pre is so funny! Read my BB Tour vs Palm Pre comparison on the very first sticky thread in the Palm Pre forum. I gave my Tour to my wife after I used and tested it out for a week. As stated a couple posts up, the BB Tour is same old BB Os nothing new and it doesn't hold a candle to the Palm Pre.

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The Pre is actually graet with tasks and calandar! Ive had almost everyphone on the market and am def. satisfied with the PRE! It has so many capabilities with room to still develop. I find myself using the calendar and setting appointments a lot with the pre. The phone keeps me very organized and on task. I just wish the battery life were a little better, but I do use the phone all day! LOL

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i completely agree... battery life could be better, but the cards say it all! I love waking my pre up and seeing 10 things i was doing earlier and going right back to where i left off! The capacitive touch screen w/multi touch is a pleasure to have.

sure the Pre lags a lil when you have 15 cards open, but the OS tells you to close some cards, which is also a good thing, so you flick away the little things you don't really need anymore.

I wouldn't get another blackberry unless my job said it was a must.


apps are just getting better and better too! ESPN Zoom is just like those touchscreen bar games (like photo-hunt) where you have to find the differences between 2 photos... seems like developers are actually listening to what people want. There is an app to put your favorite sports teams' games into your calendar so you don't have to go through the pain of doing it manually. I know those arent the most productive things i've just mentioned, but the whole point is to make the users experience Quick, Simple, and Fun, which in-turn produces more productivity.

If you're a big calendar person, the slinky-effect of your free time is not only eye-pleasing, but it makes using and viewing your calendar a breeze...

i could prolly go on and on about how the Pre is better in almost every way, but you'll never know until you get your hands on one.

as far as build quality: Its pretty sturdy IMO... the top part has a little wiggle, but that is completely normal for a sliding phone. The actual sliding movement sometimes catches a small divit and hickups a little, but it is in no way something to get upset about. First thing i did was buy an Invisible Shield by Zagg for the front (best investment so far). Reason i didn't get one for the back is cuz i dunno how it would react with the Touchstone charger i'm buying soon.

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I owned a Palm Pre for a moment. It was in interesting phone. Fun to use. But for the price, I could not justify keeping it. The build was flimsy. The thin, fragile back cover would not sit flush and creaked whenever I typed on the keyboard.
There is way too much play in the two halves of the phone when closed. It just feels cheaply built, which is too bad because the phone has a sexy, minimalist look.

The battery in the Pre is in a race with the Touch Pro for the title of worst battery in a phone.

And the phone, for all the flash of the WebOs, is missing basic phone functions that are found in nonsmart phones costing $200 less, such as video recording, voice dialing, notification lights and the ability to assign different alert tones for different needs such as text messages, voicemail and calendar. You can't even forward text messages. The phone is laggy as my Touch Pro. You touch an app, and if it registers the first time you touch it, you have to wait sometimes up to 4 seconds for the page to appear. Sometimes you touch the app and instead of registering, it will slide to the right or left, forcing you to touch it again.

I'm not going to pay $299 before rebate, for a phone that cannot do basic functions that come stock in my son's $49 Samsung Rant. My girlfriend says it's like purchasing a Lexus (insert your luxury car of choice) that doesn't have a speedometer, an air conditioning unit or CD/radio player.

Yea the multitasking is fun to play with and does come in handy. At this time WebOs is all this phone has going for it. That's not enough to justify the price for me. And I'm onboard with this operating system.

The Palm Pre has potential to be a winner. But it has serious work to do. I want a WebOs device. And I'll purchase the sophisticated device that Palm/Sprint will eventually come up with. Then I'll be eager to spend my $299.

The above only applies to me. Should you find yourself interested in this device, do your homework. Read other blogs, reviews and message boards and see what folk are saying, both yay and nay. Go to the store and fool with the phione for a good while. You might find that it meets your needs at this time.

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i suppose i'm so happy with it cuz i got it for $99 bucks in-store at sprint. Went in the next day to buy 4 more for the family and they couldn't honor it cuz they got in trouble...

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i have yet to own either one of the phones...but i've spent a tremendous amount of time with both. i believe every phone has its own design flaws, whether it be by manufacturing or by consumer standards. its also something to note that blackberries in general have had a long time running of similiar designs that are proven to deliver what they intend to do. the browsing capabilities aren't what i would call stellar nor would i call it mediocre, but it doesn't stand up to that of the pre. the battery on the pre is just about if not worse than my touch pro, now i do believe this will change once companies like seido make extended life batteries, but i do understand the frustrations of having to walk around with multiple batteries, chargers, etc etc. now if the the battery life is something that concerns you...you've got to be realistic about it. look at what the phone can do, its a performance powerhouse. yes maybe it can't do simple phone functions right out the box, but i'm sure within due time it can and will happen. again with the blackberries...they've seem to have covered these problems early on in their development, which is why they aren't anything "special" or "groundbreaking" in my opinion. the pre came guns blazing with a brand new, from the ground up OS....to me that speaks a million more words than...getting the kinks worked out after countless models that are essentially shaped around the same functions. ........so now that i've written this long run on about the two (mostly the pre) think about what you want...like someone stated earlier...the pre has unbelieveable potential, where as to the blackberry is just about as good as it can get. think of it as two women....pre is a woman with no makeup but is pretty darn cute and cool, the blackberry is a woman all dolled up and couldnt get much better. now if the pre were to put on some make up and learned a couple more tricks...imagine how much better & better looking she can become?

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Im a owner of both devices Palm Pre and the BB Tour is the newest device added. The Tour is my second BB I owned, first was the 8830 world which I used for 2 weeks. I must say I thought BB was to straight forward for my taste. I was a custom to WindowsMobile devices so I ran right back to what I know best. I got tired of WM ROMs late nights etc etc and decided to try the Pre out. I enjoyed the Pre very much without even Rooted the system. Pre was solid very user friendly between the OS and the keyboard which I love. The 3.1 screen was awesome with it being smoove and seamless which I love. Palm could have done a much better job hardware wise. The sliding hinge needed improvement and I make this statement w/o even experiencing any oreo effect.

Bottom line I love the Palm Pre that why its still in my personal inventory. But after using the Blackberry Tour. the verdict is in. I'm opt-ing to the BB Tour fulltime, reason being its a straight forward device. The Blackberry Tour fits my life 100% at this moment. Now Im connected w/ friends, family and business clients like never before. The Tour is a just messaging muscle car with a hemi under the hood. If It had wi-fi then I would say its running nos also...!O!

ps. the battery life on the blackberry tour is remarkable, compared to WiMo and Palm pre

By the way: Palm Pre users look out for the big OTA update in September..!!!