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Phil Canyon 09-10-2009 11:25 PM

Getting Dumped by Sprint
 
They say I am roaming too much and are dumping me as of sep 19th. WTF? Any links on how to switch my touch to verizon until the TD2 comes out?

horndoctor 09-11-2009 02:10 AM

Re: Getting Dumped by Sprint
 
You would just have to unlock and flash a rom and install the appropriate verizon carrier cab. Then contact Verizon and tell them what you want to do and you can get on their network. Or you could go to a Verizon dealer after you flash the rom you want and they can activate it. Lots of info and roms in the Vogue Upgrades Forum.

jethro_static 09-11-2009 02:22 AM

Re: Getting Dumped by Sprint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil Canyon (Post 1156071)
They say I am roaming too much and are dumping me as of sep 19th. WTF? Any links on how to switch my touch to verizon until the TD2 comes out?

I never heard that B4. Can U tell us some more on the dumping? How did they tell U? Like, "hey, U roam too much, We don't want U on our network?"

Phil Canyon 09-11-2009 11:09 AM

Re: Getting Dumped by Sprint
 
I moved from a area that has sprint network readily available to an area of very little available. I am roaming on us cellular towers at my house at all times and I only have periodic service in town. It is good and bad. Sprint is way cheap but I have no high speed internet. They called me and told me if I didn't quit roaming calls so much I would be dropped. Well they are dropping me.

thecheet 09-11-2009 01:26 PM

Re: Getting Dumped by Sprint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jethro_static (Post 1156477)
I never heard that B4. Can U tell us some more on the dumping? How did they tell U? Like, "hey, U roam too much, We don't want U on our network?"

I want to say it's more than 50% of your calls are made while roaming, for 3 consecutive months then you can be dropped by any carrier for excessive roaming.

jethro_static 09-11-2009 02:33 PM

Re: Getting Dumped by Sprint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil Canyon (Post 1157130)
I moved from a area that has sprint network readily available to an area of very little available. I am roaming on us cellular towers at my house at all times and I only have periodic service in town. It is good and bad. Sprint is way cheap but I have no high speed internet. They called me and told me if I didn't quit roaming calls so much I would be dropped. Well they are dropping me.

So why are they complaining if U are paying ur bills?

jethro_static 09-11-2009 02:38 PM

Re: Getting Dumped by Sprint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thecheet (Post 1157445)
I want to say it's more than 50% of your calls are made while roaming, for 3 consecutive months then you can be dropped by any carrier for excessive roaming.

Really? well if my contract says I can roam and I will pay if I exceed, Why would they dump me?
DO U mean that,let's say Sprint's contract says, I get free roaming. there is a catch? I can only use it less than 50% of the time or else Sprint will drop me? WHat happen to the AMerica's most reliable or depandable network? or the best coverage in americ? Doesn't that soud like a fraud?

whitey10tc 09-11-2009 05:42 PM

Re: Getting Dumped by Sprint
 
Sprint dumped me in 2007 for the exact reason, and I was only roaming about 30% of 1 month. But I received a letter stating my 2 yr contract was being terminated for that reason. I paid my final bill switched to cricket and now I receive a collection letter for sprint every month for numerouse different amounts from different collection agencies. The funny thing is Sprint nor the collectors can provide me with any hard copy bills for the different amounts nor can they explain it to me.

Phil Canyon 09-12-2009 04:11 PM

Re: Getting Dumped by Sprint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by whitey10tc (Post 1158119)
Sprint dumped me in 2007 for the exact reason, and I was only roaming about 30% of 1 month. But I received a letter stating my 2 yr contract was being terminated for that reason. I paid my final bill switched to cricket and now I receive a collection letter for sprint every month for numerouse different amounts from different collection agencies. The funny thing is Sprint nor the collectors can provide me with any hard copy bills for the different amounts nor can they explain it to me.

We negotiated to not pay our final bill since we have to pay fees to start new service. My wife picked up the omnia last night and we will switch to the family plan when the TD2 comes out. In the meantime I will try to switch my touch to prepay on verizon.

letmusiclive 09-15-2009 01:21 AM

Re: Getting Dumped by Sprint
 
If they can't explain it to you then they should clear the charge in my opinion... best of luck!

JohnLips 09-19-2009 09:31 AM

Re: Getting Dumped by Sprint
 
Sorry if this is a dumb question; what is TD2?

mulhiny 09-19-2009 09:38 AM

Re: Getting Dumped by Sprint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jethro_static (Post 1157631)
Really? well if my contract says I can roam and I will pay if I exceed, Why would they dump me?
DO U mean that,let's say Sprint's contract says, I get free roaming. there is a catch? I can only use it less than 50% of the time or else Sprint will drop me? WHat happen to the AMerica's most reliable or depandable network? or the best coverage in americ? Doesn't that soud like a fraud?

There is indeed a catch to unlimited roaming..It's not unlimited. This is from Sprint's TOS.

"Sprint may terminate service if (1) more than 800 minutes, (2) a majority of minutes or (3) a majority of data kilobytes in a given month are used while roaming."

mulhiny 09-19-2009 09:39 AM

Re: Getting Dumped by Sprint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnLips (Post 1178515)
Sorry if this is a dumb question; what is TD2?

Touch Diamond 2

strommsarnac 09-19-2009 11:50 AM

Re: Getting Dumped by Sprint
 
Don't forget. Neither Sprint, Verizon nor AT&T guarantee coverage at residential locations.

JAVIERBOND007 09-19-2009 12:06 PM

Re: Getting Dumped by Sprint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jethro_static (Post 1157631)
Really? well if my contract says I can roam and I will pay if I exceed, Why would they dump me?
DO U mean that,let's say Sprint's contract says, I get free roaming. there is a catch? I can only use it less than 50% of the time or else Sprint will drop me? WHat happen to the AMerica's most reliable or depandable network? or the best coverage in americ? Doesn't that soud like a fraud?

Wow, i agree with you on this.

Primenall 09-20-2009 05:45 PM

Re: Getting Dumped by Sprint
 
The thing is they have to pay US Cellular for your airtime and it must not be very profitable or maybe even costing them money.

It sucks but you can't really blame them though, why would Sprint keep you if they have to pay US Cellular more each month than you're paying to them, why else would they drop you.

fixxxer2012 09-20-2009 06:19 PM

Re: Getting Dumped by Sprint
 
sprints still a sinking ship anyways. too bad im stuck with them for another 2 years. the hero phone im getting better make up for all the bs i put up with from them.

wampuscat 09-22-2009 09:09 AM

Re: Getting Dumped by Sprint
 
your not alone,they are cancelling air cards also.most importantly_mine on Oct.10

imdarkside 09-23-2009 12:35 PM

Re: Getting Dumped by Sprint
 
This confirms what the vzw rep told me the other day. I talked to a sprint rep who told me about the incredibly cheap (compared to vzw) data plans. Later I talked to a vzw rep who said sprint's coverage sux and that Sprint is going down fast. Course I didnt believe him but a little research indicates this is true...

Vzw rep told me that they are unlocking gps w/o vz navistupid "some time soon". Also said they may get the ibrick (ie iphone) soon. Blah blah blah. sprints demise is not a good thing. They seem to release the technology faster. vzw keeps trying to lock tech up so they can milk the $ out of it.

psycho_maniac 09-23-2009 03:16 PM

Re: Getting Dumped by Sprint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil Canyon (Post 1156071)
They say I am roaming too much and are dumping me as of sep 19th. WTF? Any links on how to switch my touch to verizon until the TD2 comes out?

man that sucks. sorry but glad your coming to verizon!!! haha i will also be going to them shortly

Quote:

Originally Posted by imdarkside (Post 1187739)
This confirms what the vzw rep told me the other day. I talked to a sprint rep who told me about the incredibly cheap (compared to vzw) data plans. Later I talked to a vzw rep who said sprint's coverage sux and that Sprint is going down fast. Course I didnt believe him but a little research indicates this is true...

Vzw rep told me that they are unlocking gps w/o vz navistupid "some time soon". Also said they may get the ibrick (ie iphone) soon. Blah blah blah. sprints demise is not a good thing. They seem to release the technology faster. vzw keeps trying to lock tech up so they can milk the $ out of it.

anyways....i think this is old news because vzw just started unlocking gps on there touch pros and (somebody chip in) its already unlocked on the tp2 I THINK

codybear 09-24-2009 02:31 AM

Re: Getting Dumped by Sprint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil Canyon (Post 1156071)
They say I am roaming too much and are dumping me as of sep 19th. WTF? Any links on how to switch my touch to verizon until the TD2 comes out?

Unlock your phone, flash verizon stock rom(to load other files not normally in a custom rom) and then you can flash to a custom rom.
[atleast that's what I have picked up on]

Quote:

Originally Posted by horndoctor (Post 1156456)
You would just have to unlock and flash a rom and install the appropriate verizon carrier cab. Then contact Verizon and tell them what you want to do and you can get on their network. Or you could go to a Verizon dealer after you flash the rom you want and they can activate it. Lots of info and roms in the Vogue Upgrades Forum.

They're really not adding other company phones on to their network anymore. You can sometimes get them to, but you have the same percent chance of winning the lottery.

Quote:

Originally Posted by imdarkside (Post 1187739)
This confirms what the vzw rep told me the other day. I talked to a sprint rep who told me about the incredibly cheap (compared to vzw) data plans. Later I talked to a vzw rep who said sprint's coverage sux and that Sprint is going down fast. Course I didnt believe him but a little research indicates this is true...

Vzw rep told me that they are unlocking gps w/o vz navistupid "some time soon". Also said they may get the ibrick (ie iphone) soon. Blah blah blah. sprints demise is not a good thing. They seem to release the technology faster. vzw keeps trying to lock tech up so they can milk the $ out of it.

Iphone going to verizon has been talked about for some time now, even heard it on my local news not too long ago. I can't wait to see people's bills after their first month of having the iphone on verizon haha.
Doesn't every supplier try to milk $ out of everything though?
I mean when you buy a car, you pay extra for automatic locks, windows, etc. and I do mean extra since it's generally no more than like $20-30 each for the extra parts, and then they just pop right into the doors, and you end up paying thousands extra for all of that stuff already installed.

I'd rather them lock everything up, and mark the phones cheaper, and then they can charge the not so tech savvy people for the extra features. We'll always be able to undo any locking down of items that they do.
It's just the hardware modifications that they do that irritate me.
I'm going to stop now, I can keep going on and on about the conglomerate *******s.

Quote:

Originally Posted by psycho_maniac (Post 1188129)
man that sucks. sorry but glad your coming to verizon!!! haha i will also be going to them shortly

anyways....i think this is old news because vzw just started unlocking gps on there touch pros and (somebody chip in) its already unlocked on the tp2 I THINK

It took them like 6 months to release an unlocked gps version then.
I remember everyone complaining about it. haha

psycho_maniac 09-24-2009 03:00 AM

Re: Getting Dumped by Sprint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by codybear (Post 1189710)
It took them like 6 months to release an unlocked gps version then.
I remember everyone complaining about it. haha

yeah didnt they unlock the gps on the tp not too long before the tp2 came out?

horndoctor 09-24-2009 03:11 AM

Re: Getting Dumped by Sprint
 
Sprint's Better! IMOMore reliable coverage.Better devices.:)

psycho_maniac 09-24-2009 03:14 AM

Re: Getting Dumped by Sprint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by horndoctor (Post 1189770)
Sprint's Better! IMOMore reliable coverage.Better devices.:)

maybe in your area. come to my house or around here once and let me see you brag about your sprint service.
....how the heck did i end up in the vogue section here??? LOL

Table83 09-24-2009 03:55 PM

Re: Getting Dumped by Sprint
 
You should talk to a lawyer. I'm not a lawyer, but frankly that doesn't sound legal. They have an obligation to provide you with the contracted service through the two years that you signed. If your lifestyle changes so that you don't have service in your area you can't tell them, "I'm dropping you." They can't do that either. They do have rights though. When you sign a contract you and they are required to follow through with the promised consideration, and that cannot be terminated just because your roaming is costing sprint money.

Phil Canyon 09-24-2009 04:42 PM

Re: Getting Dumped by Sprint
 
UPDATE: Get this, I plan to shut my phone off and start a new plan for my wife and now they aren't shutting the phone off this month. I says whats the deal? They say that they don't have a letter on file about it and in order for this to be verified we would of had to first have a letter. So my last bill was not waived and I also put a deposit and phone purchase this month at verizon and I will still have to pay last months bill. Furthermore they said that the only lines that were targeted were the secondary lines and not the primary so I only get credited $9.99 for the extra lines and not the $99.99 for the primary. Although I told them MY line was the primary line and that they must have changed it with out me saying so. I also told them I added the two other lines and plan change to my line. Still they say no.

This is a bigger load of BS now and since they are doing this to me, I'll just set pocketweather to update every min while roaming at my house for the month.

I am not going to make any payments and wait until this all this pans out and pay them 5 bucks a month for 3 years to pay it off. I swear you always get screwed leaving these businesses.

codybear 09-24-2009 06:41 PM

Re: Getting Dumped by Sprint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by psycho_maniac (Post 1189751)
yeah didnt they unlock the gps on the tp not too long before the tp2 came out?

Yeah, I believe that's how it happened.

Quote:

Originally Posted by horndoctor (Post 1189770)
Sprint's Better! IMOMore reliable coverage.Better devices.:)

haha. It's actually not that bad around my area, but verizon/alltel still murders them with service coverage.
I love it. :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by psycho_maniac (Post 1189773)
maybe in your area. come to my house or around here once and let me see you brag about your sprint service.
....how the heck did i end up in the vogue section here??? LOL

haha, just admit it, it's because you saw that I posted here, so you came to check it out! :P

Quote:

Originally Posted by Table83 (Post 1191001)
You should talk to a lawyer. I'm not a lawyer, but frankly that doesn't sound legal. They have an obligation to provide you with the contracted service through the two years that you signed. If your lifestyle changes so that you don't have service in your area you can't tell them, "I'm dropping you." They can't do that either. They do have rights though. When you sign a contract you and they are required to follow through with the promised consideration, and that cannot be terminated just because your roaming is costing sprint money.

According to the post someone else made quoting fine print that is in the contract, if what was quoted is actually in the contract, it basically states that he has no rights to taking legal action about this situation.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil Canyon (Post 1191135)
UPDATE: Get this, I plan to shut my phone off and start a new plan for my wife and now they aren't shutting the phone off this month. I says whats the deal? They say that they don't have a letter on file about it and in order for this to be verified we would of had to first have a letter. So my last bill was not waived and I also put a deposit and phone purchase this month at verizon and I will still have to pay last months bill. Furthermore they said that the only lines that were targeted were the secondary lines and not the primary so I only get credited $9.99 for the extra lines and not the $99.99 for the primary. Although I told them MY line was the primary line and that they must have changed it with out me saying so. I also told them I added the two other lines and plan change to my line. Still they say no.

This is a bigger load of BS now and since they are doing this to me, I'll just set pocketweather to update every min while roaming at my house for the month.

I am not going to make any payments and wait until this all this pans out and pay them 5 bucks a month for 3 years to pay it off. I swear you always get screwed leaving these businesses.

haha. ain't that the truth. that's why you just stick with one. hahah.
I would just keep calling back, talking to a manager, keep a calm voice and be polite but firm about the situation, and you should atleast be able to get somewhere with the customer service managers. If you yell, cuss, etc at them, you are highly unlikely to get anywhere.

Table83 09-25-2009 04:21 PM

Re: Getting Dumped by Sprint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by codybear (Post 1191381)
According to the post someone else made quoting fine print that is in the contract, if what was quoted is actually in the contract, it basically states that he has no rights to taking legal action about this situation.

Yes that is in the fine print. I'm not positive, but I actually believe that it's that you have the right to only arbitration. But anyway I still say lawyer! You have a good case here. If you are paying for a service you are not receiving then that in fact gives you extra rights because there is no consideration from sprint. And Sprint has had crappy lawyers lately anyway. Easy case to win.

fixxxer2012 09-25-2009 04:58 PM

Re: Getting Dumped by Sprint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by codybear (Post 1189710)
Unlock your phone, flash verizon stock rom(to load other files not normally in a custom rom) and then you can flash to a custom rom.
[atleast that's what I have picked up on]


They're really not adding other company phones on to their network anymore. You can sometimes get them to, but you have the same percent chance of winning the lottery.


Iphone going to verizon has been talked about for some time now, even heard it on my local news not too long ago. I can't wait to see people's bills after their first month of having the iphone on verizon haha.
Doesn't every supplier try to milk $ out of everything though?
I mean when you buy a car, you pay extra for automatic locks, windows, etc. and I do mean extra since it's generally no more than like $20-30 each for the extra parts, and then they just pop right into the doors, and you end up paying thousands extra for all of that stuff already installed.

I'd rather them lock everything up, and mark the phones cheaper, and then they can charge the not so tech savvy people for the extra features. We'll always be able to undo any locking down of items that they do.
It's just the hardware modifications that they do that irritate me.
I'm going to stop now, I can keep going on and on about the conglomerate *******s.


It took them like 6 months to release an unlocked gps version then.
I remember everyone complaining about it. haha


wow your back from the dead now? anyways i wish sprint would dump me, i want to move to another carrier.

codybear 09-26-2009 08:03 PM

Re: Getting Dumped by Sprint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Table83 (Post 1193638)
Yes that is in the fine print. I'm not positive, but I actually believe that it's that you have the right to only arbitration. But anyway I still say lawyer! You have a good case here. If you are paying for a service you are not receiving then that in fact gives you extra rights because there is no consideration from sprint. And Sprint has had crappy lawyers lately anyway. Easy case to win.

or an easy few grand to waste on a lawyer. :P
I'm not a lawyer either, but I've had my fair share of run ins with the law, and I know quite a bit more than the average person.

They wouldn't put that into the fine print if it gave you a loop hole.
The point of the fine print is to say the company can do whatever they want whenever they want and you can't do anything about it. :P

Quote:

Originally Posted by fixxxer2008 (Post 1193727)
wow your back from the dead now? anyways i wish sprint would dump me, i want to move to another carrier.

haha. I've been around. Mainly just replying to Pms I have.
I'm working on a few programs and a couple businesses I'm starting.
Once they start up, I'll have plenty of more time to spend on the forums again.


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