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josb0513 03-28-2008 08:37 PM

2.5mm to 3.5mm audio output!!
 
Hello, I want to use my HTC Touch and hook it up to Car audio.
So, I have a jack that came with Touch, which is 2.5mm I believe.
Now I need to get 2.5mm to 3.5mm jack to hook it into car aug hole.

But, way I understand from previous links,
it will not work as a stereo?
people complained about it being only played on one side of a speaker.
Is this true? only will work as a mono?

Thanks

rstoyguy 03-28-2008 09:33 PM

Re: 2.5mm to 3.5mm audio output!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by josb0513 (Post 233758)
Hello, I want to use my HTC Touch and hook it up to Car audio.
So, I have a jack that came with Touch, which is 2.5mm I believe.
Now I need to get 2.5mm to 3.5mm jack to hook it into car aug hole.

But, way I understand from previous links,
it will not work as a stereo?
people complained about it being only played on one side of a speaker.
Is this true? only will work as a mono?

Thanks

This works and depends on where ya live they might still be open!

http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...tId=2603246&cp

mojomahem 03-28-2008 10:20 PM

Re: 2.5mm to 3.5mm audio output!!
 
I use this

http://www.wirelessground.com/touchcarmount.html

with a jack I got from Helio device when I worked for them awhile back. I know the radio shack convertors will only play on one side if you jam it all the way in if you play with it some you can get it to work in stereo.

ukcapri 03-29-2008 01:16 AM

Re: 2.5mm to 3.5mm audio output!!
 
I actully use this for listening to music in the car:

http://search.stores.ebay.ca/OtakuPa...839474QQsofpZ0

Or i use this if i want to listen to music, and have people talk to me through a headset not provided by HTC, (or talk through the car stero)

http://cgi.ebay.ca/3-5mm-Earphone-Ad...QQcmdZViewItem

Because forums are arround longer then those urls will be, just look at this guys ebay site..

http://stores.ebay.ca/OtakuPark-Digi...QQsofpZ0QQtZkm

rstoyguy 03-29-2008 10:25 AM

Re: 2.5mm to 3.5mm audio output!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mojomahem (Post 233827)
I know the radio shack convertors will only play on one side if you jam it all the way in if you play with it some you can get it to work in stereo.

You might want to find a new Radioshack to go to then. I verified the functionality of the above listed part this morning in my store. I've had troubles with this on Sprints Rumor (to fix just cut away a little of the black rubber). If you select the wrong adapter you will only get sound out of one ear. With windows mobile phones, you gotta have people who know which one works. Benefit of RadioShack is you should be able to try it before you buy it!

Right Adapter:
http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...tId=2603246&cp

Wrong Adapter:
http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...tId=2062470&cp

And you'll need the headphone splitter that came with your phone...

Torx 03-29-2008 02:12 PM

Re: 2.5mm to 3.5mm audio output!!
 
ive got plenty of spare mini usb cables, plenty of 3.5mm jacks..
i dont see how we cant have a DIY tutorial on how to build one ourself!

if someones got schematics or knows what wire goes where, i'll build one myself and take pics!

slickcat 03-29-2008 02:27 PM

Re: 2.5mm to 3.5mm audio output!!
 
http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...tId=2062470&cp

I have this adapter and I have gotten it to work in stereo. If you plug this adapter into the phone adapter all the way you get sound out of only one speaker. If you pull the adapter out slightly you will hear sound from both sets of speakers. Hope this helps.

josb0513 03-29-2008 02:42 PM

Re: 2.5mm to 3.5mm audio output!!
 
thx alot guys!
I ended up ordering http://cgi.ebay.ca/3-5mm-Earphone-Ad...QQcmdZViewItem.
I just gotta wait for it to get shipped and try it out.

It seems like Jack with 2 strip is mono and 3 strip is stereo just like guitar jacks :P

j10376 03-29-2008 03:00 PM

Re: 2.5mm to 3.5mm audio output!!
 
there are two adapters availible from radio shack only one will work. The two contact adapter does not work however the 3 contact adater does . I have used it for a while now and it works for stereo. However there is a problemwith because it is 3 contacts left and right channel and mic when you try to answer a call you have to unplug from usb even with bluetooth hadsfree the device detects mic from adater and and will not allow mic on phone or bluetooth to work. I am agoing to try usb to 3.5mm to see if it works. I have taken apart a oem htc usb to 2.5 adater and I have pinouts I am finishing this weekend. I tried to find one that was the same that came with mogul on internet cannot closes i could find was a usb to enourmous dongul with two usb and 3.5mm jack. I cannot believe that no company could not of just reproduced the stock one a y cable with one usb and 3.5mm jack so I have to make one.

rstoyguy 03-29-2008 09:28 PM

Re: 2.5mm to 3.5mm audio output!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slickcat (Post 234310)
http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...tId=2062470&cp

I have this adapter and I have gotten it to work in stereo. If you plug this adapter into the phone adapter all the way you get sound out of only one speaker. If you pull the adapter out slightly you will hear sound from both sets of speakers. Hope this helps.


Let me see if I remember ANSII art... The adapter has 4 conductors.
........XXX==|=|=|=
Conductor: 1 2 3 4
1 = Ground
2 = Sound (right or left)
3 = Sound (right or left)
4 = microphone
If you pull it partially out, it will make contact with what it needs to be stereo. The RadioShack 274-004 adapter rewires the connectors to line up with regular headphones and does nothing with the microphone connector.

Quote:

Originally Posted by j10376 (Post 234335)
there are two adapters availible from radio shack only one will work. The two contact adapter does not work however the 3 contact adater does . I have used it for a while now and it works for stereo. However there is a problemwith because it is 3 contacts left and right channel and mic when you try to answer a call you have to unplug from usb even with bluetooth hadsfree the device detects mic from adater and and will not allow mic on phone or bluetooth to work. I am agoing to try usb to 3.5mm to see if it works. I have taken apart a oem htc usb to 2.5 adater and I have pinouts I am finishing this weekend. I tried to find one that was the same that came with mogul on internet cannot closes i could find was a usb to enourmous dongul with two usb and 3.5mm jack. I cannot believe that no company could not of just reproduced the stock one a y cable with one usb and 3.5mm jack so I have to make one.

FOR TORX's Video.... :)

http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/...pin_config.png
The above diagram is of the EMU plug viewed end-on.
Enhanced Mini USB (EMU) connectors are double sided. One side carry's the USB signal data while the other carries audio signals. The pin config is as follows.
Data
A = GND
B = NC
C = +DATA
D = -DATA
E = +5v
Audio
1 = +Mic
2 = +Right
3 = Switch
4 = Gnd
5 = Gnd
6 = +Left

You can find Enhanced Mini USB connectors on a variety of devices. The above config covers the USB configuration of the HTC Oxygen devices and HTC Meteor devices and probably many more.
Use at your own risk though, play safe!

Forgot where I found it, but I saved it for all. So who wants to build a couple thousand? Cheap!

rstoyguy 03-29-2008 09:48 PM

Re: 2.5mm to 3.5mm audio output!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by j10376 (Post 234335)
I have used it for a while now and it works for stereo. However there is a problemwith because it is 3 contacts left and right channel and mic when you try to answer a call you have to unplug from usb even with bluetooth hadsfree the device detects mic from adater and and will not allow mic on phone or bluetooth to work. I am agoing to try usb to 3.5mm to see if it works. I have taken apart a oem htc usb to 2.5 adater and I have pinouts I am finishing this weekend. I tried to find one that was the same that came with mogul on internet cannot closes i could find was a usb to enourmous dongul with two usb and 3.5mm jack. I cannot believe that no company could not of just reproduced the stock one a y cable with one usb and 3.5mm jack so I have to make one.

I beleive that inside the phone, there is some switching going on for the output mode. Maybee shorting pin3 to ground would switch it from stereo output to phone output mode. I don't want to fry my touch though...

supadoggie 03-29-2008 10:06 PM

Re: 2.5mm to 3.5mm audio output!!
 
I got my E.MiniUSB to 3.5mm adapter from seidio. They have one with or without mic. I use it with my 6800 and it's great

Stoney60 04-21-2008 10:59 AM

Re: 2.5mm to 3.5mm audio output!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by supadoggie (Post 234626)
I got my E.MiniUSB to 3.5mm adapter from seidio. They have one with or without mic. I use it with my 6800 and it's great

Yes, but that is only a mini usb male to 3.5mm female adapter. Has anyone found a mini usb male to 3.5mm Male cable. I found one at amazon.com
http://www.amazon.com/3-5mm-Stereo-M...sbs_a_title_27 that has a bend at the usb end that covers up the charge port of the Y adapter cable so you can't charge and listen at the same time; making it practically useless considering how quickly the touch battery discharges when playing music.

paulwynn 04-21-2008 11:49 AM

Re: 2.5mm to 3.5mm audio output!!
 
Might I also suggest this:

http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?p...15366&cat=2877

If you use the good Radio Shack adapter, you still have to use the 2.5 adapter (presumably stock), plug in the 3.5, then the head sets/car wire.
That's like 3 cables in the chain, and just one needs a little static in it.

Stoney60 04-21-2008 12:15 PM

Re: 2.5mm to 3.5mm audio output!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulwynn (Post 255572)
Might I also suggest this:

http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?p...15366&cat=2877

If you use the good Radio Shack adapter, you still have to use the 2.5 adapter (presumably stock), plug in the 3.5, then the head sets/car wire.
That's like 3 cables in the chain, and just one needs a little static in it.

orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr this: http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=15367 to replace the stock Y adapter and then get a simple (read inexpensive) 3.5mm Male to 3.5mm Male stereo cord.

When I wrote this, they didn't have any in stock so I asked them to let me know when they were back in stock. Thay had been selling them on ebay for less, so I checked there after I got notice that they were back in stock. I did a search on ebay for the item and found several others such as here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/3in1-audio-Adapt...QQcmdZViewItem

I made an offer of $6.00 and got it for that (whatta deal!!!!)

Icecold54 05-10-2008 06:59 PM

Re: 2.5mm to 3.5mm audio output!!
 
Hi,

I just got a HTC Wizard and i bought the adapter from radioshack (posted earlier with the 3 rings on the connector) and it did not work for me. Audio came out through my right side only. If i moved it a little, it would come out the left side only.
What are some solutions for this for me?

thacounty 08-18-2008 06:31 PM

Re: 2.5mm to 3.5mm audio output!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Icecold54 (Post 278730)
Hi,

I just got a HTC Wizard and i bought the adapter from radioshack (posted earlier with the 3 rings on the connector) and it did not work for me. Audio came out through my right side only. If i moved it a little, it would come out the left side only.
What are some solutions for this for me?

Same thing happened to me... I had to push the connector in farther... It seems like it is stopped then it will go in about another 1/4 inch...

hexto 08-19-2008 02:18 PM

Re: 2.5mm to 3.5mm audio output!!
 
<p>I'm currently using the mini-usb to 3.5mm adapter from Amazon and an FM transmitter/craddle for the ipod nano I got from ebay that has a 3.5mm jack. With that I get Garmin XT thru my car speakers. I tried using it as a hands free but it cause feedback and the person on the other line ends up hearing themselves so I just use my bluetooth for calls.</p>

Dojey 08-20-2008 02:02 AM

Re: 2.5mm to 3.5mm audio output!!
 
This is the one that I'm currently using:
http://www.oriongadgets.com/product_...oducts_id=2087

So far I've had no major issues with it. Some benefits of this one are:
a) it's got a mic too, so I can use regular headphones with a mic (as requested by pocomike)
b) it's much more flexible, so makes it easier to stick in my pocket or move around and whatever (e.g. won't force my plug to stick out of the touch now that it's sideways, and don't have to worry about how it sits in my pocket).

Hope that helps...

hexto 08-20-2008 02:48 AM

Re: 2.5mm to 3.5mm audio output!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dojey (Post 388374)
This is the one that I'm currently using:
http://www.oriongadgets.com/product_...oducts_id=2087

So far I've had no major issues with it. Some benefits of this one are:
a) it's got a mic too, so I can use regular headphones with a mic (as requested by pocomike)
b) it's much more flexible, so makes it easier to stick in my pocket or move around and whatever (e.g. won't force my plug to stick out of the touch now that it's sideways, and don't have to worry about how it sits in my pocket).

Hope that helps...

That is nice. I'm using this one right now. It's nice but no mic.
http://www.amazon.com/3-5mm-Stereo-A...f=pd_bbs_2?ie=

suv 08-20-2008 01:09 PM

Re: 2.5mm to 3.5mm audio output!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dojey (Post 388374)
This is the one that I'm currently using:
http://www.oriongadgets.com/product_...oducts_id=2087

So far I've had no major issues with it. Some benefits of this one are:
a) it's got a mic too, so I can use regular headphones with a mic (as requested by pocomike)
b) it's much more flexible, so makes it easier to stick in my pocket or move around and whatever (e.g. won't force my plug to stick out of the touch now that it's sideways, and don't have to worry about how it sits in my pocket).

Hope that helps...

Thanks...exactly what I was looking for. Needed to charge + pass music to car aux port + ability to answer calls without removing usb cable. It was out of stock there but i found one at daydeal:
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?p...22213&cat=3443

Dr.8820 08-23-2008 12:52 PM

Re: 2.5mm to 3.5mm audio output!!
 
im using the stock htc adapter plus after-market moto charger,a 3-striped gold adapter off ebay(2.5mm to 3.5mm),and a moto h710 for calls.i can even hear sprint navi in stereo.

adz1966 08-29-2008 08:54 PM

Re: 2.5mm to 3.5mm audio output!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rstoyguy (Post 234618)
I beleive that inside the phone, there is some switching going on for the output mode. Maybee shorting pin3 to ground would switch it from stereo output to phone output mode. I don't want to fry my touch though...

I disassembled the stock adapter and soldered a standard 3.5 mm male jack to it to use with the aux input in my car. No good. There must be some kind of switching going on, as I quoted from the earlier post.
I have insurance so I will try shorting pin 3 to ground (that looks right to me too rstoyguy, someone let me know ASAP if we're wrong!!) and see if that works.
Will post results...

Just an FYI, it's easy to mod the stock headphones. Just cut off earbuds, and solder the three wires (left, right, and ground) to a $1 Radio Shack 3.5mm male plug. Works well.

sprinttouch666 08-29-2008 11:39 PM

Re: 2.5mm to 3.5mm audio output!!
 
a lot of decks have bluetooth for talking on the phone, would it be possible to play music from our devices via bluetooth (sorry if this is a stupid question, i havent looked into it much)

Dojey 08-30-2008 03:37 AM

Re: 2.5mm to 3.5mm audio output!!
 
Trying to respond to two posts here... so bear with me.

Adz1966,
I have verified this myself, but I believe the following schematic is what you are looking for. I do know that I have come across some threads talking about this as well: http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/...tor_pin_config

sprinttouch666,
Yes, it is very possible to play music from our devices. They support A2DP which is essentially for stereo bluetooth headsets (I'm sure somebody will correctly if I'm wrong).

ghostridr 09-23-2008 08:38 PM

Re: 2.5mm to 3.5mm audio output!!
 
I modded the HTC headset with a Y/3.5 splitter by splicing the earbud wires to the female(right/left) connector ends of the Y splitter and have working stero/mic now.. Only thing is I still can't charge while listening to music or using phone.

total cost = $0

dealpapa 11-25-2008 05:45 PM

Re: 2.5mm to 3.5mm audio output!!
 
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.3541

will this work?

or

http://cgi.ebay.ca/HTC-Touch-Tilt-mini-USB-3-5mm-Stereo-Audio-Adapter_W0QQitemZ230310062503QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPD A_Accessories?hash=item230310062503&_trksid=p3286. c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A15|39%3A1|240%3A1318


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