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xconstaud 12-23-2009 12:00 AM

New to Android or NAND?
 
This is simply for any noobs or others who are having issues with Android and NAND.

IMPORTANT!!!
FOR VOGUE USERS ONLY
I am not responsible for any bricked or messed up devices. By continuing you are agreeing to my simple rule.
MY SIMPLE RULE: I owe you nothing.
I will help you through the way though if you bricked or need any sort of help.

How-to Video up NOW!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gTkJkOc7m4



TO PPCGEEKS READERS!
I understand that the links provided are from XDA. I will soon place PPCGEEKS links on here if I must. The sole purpose of this Thread is to help New Users or Confused Users.


First off, What is NAND?

To keep it simple...its your phones internal memory. Up untill recently we (Vogue Users) had to run Android off our SD cards using HARET. But thats another story.

What are the benefits of running from NAND? (based on what I have seen)
-Runs faster
-Longer Battery life
-faster boot up
-can be faster to put together.
-Easier to connect your vogue with android to your pc and sync
-Much more convenient.

So how do I start?

STEP1:
The Build
First you need to find a Build that is usable with NAND. Most Hero builds at this moment are not. Here are some links:

Donut 1.6
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591104

Hero
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=603028

Cupcake 1.5
Method 1 from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=593786

DO NOT DOWNLOAD ANYTHING JUST YET! I WILL TELL YOU WHEN A GOOD TIME WOULD BE
You may want to consider reading the rest...

STEP2:
Base Files (Most builds will supply these)
For all builds (Except the Link in Cupcake "instructions are givin in the download.) you will need a basic set of base files. The link below contains the 3 basic empty files for all builds and Systems.

http://cid-e5302e6abd554cb9.skydrive...droidstuff.rar

IF

You are using Hero make sure you download hero.user.conf too:

http://cid-e5302e6abd554cb9.skydrive...hero.user.conf

-create a new folder called conf
-and place hero.user.conf in your new folder.

STEP3:
Rootfs

After you have the Base files you will need a rootfs. Depending on your Build, you may need a different type then the one I am going to supply you. Most builds will supply you with one. This one is DZO's rootfs.

http://cid-e5302e6abd554cb9.skydrive...XDA/rootfs.img

STEP4:
Prepare
-You need to clean out your storage on your SD. Make sure you delete everything.
-Create a file called android on your desktop.
-Download the base files, unzip, open folder, and place all 3 in your android folder
-Download the rootfs and place them in your android folder. Make sure you either download DZO's or the one your Build provides.
-Download a System.img. When you download a System most likely it will have a different name such as system-hero-123.img. You need to rename it system. So it should look like system.img . Then place it in your android folder.
-If you are using Hero place your conf folder in your android folder.
-Depending on your Build (mostly Hero) you may also need a Data file. The build you select should supply one. Download it and place it in your Android Folder

STEP5
Placing
Open up your android folder of all your collected files and select all, copy, and paste into your empty SD card.

STEP6
Unlocking
If you have never flashed a ROM before than you don't have HardSPL installed. So unlock your phone with...

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=20370

Make sure you follow the forums directions.

STEP7
Method

Method1: The way I do it.
Download ROMUpdateUtility.rar

http://cid-e5302e6abd554cb9.skydrive...ateUtility.rar

Extract to a newfolder

Download a kernel with your screen size

http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/files/?C=M;O=D

Don't know your screen size...check this out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544906

After you have have gotten the kernel:
rename it to RUU_signed and place it in the ROMUpdateUtility folder you created.

NOW you need to plug your phone into your computer. Establish active sync. And run ROMUpdateUtility.

-Follow the Instructions on the screen.

Method 2 and 3 can be found here:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=593786

This also shows my method...but a little less detail. You can also find many other helpful things there.

If you fail OR think your bricked your phone.

You will need to download one of these depending on your carrier...Make sure you download the shipped gps rom. (If you are Verizon skip down)
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=191607

Than you will put your phone in boot mode. Hold the Camera and Power button. While holding both of them...get a pen or something small and hit the little restart button on the bottom of your phone. You may have to hold it for like a second.

-you will see three color bars on your phone
-plug your phone into your computer
-run the backup

After your phone is all back to normal. Make sure you run internet explore on your phone. It will enable you to get data.

For Verizon follow the instructions here.

http://wiki.ppchaven.com/index.php?t...IX_VERIZON_GPS

That is about it. I'm sure I forgot some stuff and will add on to this. Make sure you donate to the Devs for all their hard work.

DZO
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=593786
jamezelle
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=603028
plemen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591104
vilord
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523692

They deserve it. :o

whitey10tc 12-24-2009 03:08 AM

Re: New to Android or NAND?
 
You realy should give credit to the original author of this post and the maker of the video staud8469 from XDA or atleast reference the original post from XDA http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...68&postcount=1 . Not saying your trying to take credit for it but it's nice to give credit when it's due it took staud8469 alot of time and work and he deserves credit for his work.
*Edit*
Original poster on XDA has taken credit.

xconstaud 12-24-2009 04:02 AM

Re: New to Android or NAND?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by whitey10tc (Post 1434839)
You realy should give credit to the original author of this post and the maker of the video staud8469 from XDA or atleast reference the original post from XDA http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...68&postcount=1 . Not saying your trying to take credit for it but it's nice to give credit when it's due it took staud8469 alot of time and work and he deserves credit for his work.

Haha, I am staud8469. This is my PPCGeeks account. Just to control confusion ill place in both of my signatures a link to the other user.

Glad to see you got my back! :thumbleft:

whitey10tc 12-24-2009 04:24 AM

Re: New to Android or NAND?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xconstaud (Post 1434903)
Haha, I am staud8469. This is my PPCGeeks account. Just to control confusion ill place in both of my signatures a link to the other user.

Glad to see you got my back! :thumbleft:

Your welcome !

horndoctor 12-24-2009 05:41 AM

Re: New to Android or NAND?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xconstaud (Post 1434903)
Haha, I am staud8469. This is my PPCGeeks account. Just to control confusion ill place in both of my signatures a link to the other user.

Glad to see you got my back! :thumbleft:

Great Info!! :) If I decide to make the switch to Android I know what to do.
Thanks given! Nice work!! :mrgreen:

whitey10tc 12-24-2009 03:00 PM

Re: New to Android or NAND?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by horndoctor (Post 1434961)
Great Info!! :) If I decide to make the switch to Android I know what to do.
Thanks given! Nice work!! :mrgreen:

Android is awesome, but my issue is cricket data (internet) is simple IP and Android is designed for mobile IP So I can't use it on a daily basis, until a fix is found. When I do find a fix I will make the switch permanently.

ss0mohit 12-24-2009 03:16 PM

Re: New to Android or NAND?
 
cool!
i like this. very nicely written and a 10/10 for description and whatnot. :)
the only thing that's keeping me back from android is apps on winmo and i prefer the ezinput keyboard.

xconstaud 12-24-2009 07:40 PM

Re: New to Android or NAND?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by whitey10tc (Post 1435604)
Android is awesome, but my issue is cricket data (internet) is simple IP and Android is designed for mobile IP So I can't use it on a daily basis, until a fix is found. When I do find a fix I will make the switch permanently.

Yeah, I heard about that on XDA. I'm trying my best to find a fix or somebody that can help me for ya. :newb:

whitey10tc 12-25-2009 02:15 AM

Re: New to Android or NAND?
 
Well I've made some progress with an old build from Dec. 2008, so far I have working browser and push email. Now I'm working on the Google maps, I think I need an updated copy for that. Once I get it wworking atleast 75% I will post what I have done to get it done. I just don't want to mislead anyone if it doesn't go 100%. Also this build is not flashed from Nand it installs from a cab. file. and runs on the SD card.

petermg 12-26-2009 07:37 PM

Re: New to Android or NAND?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by whitey10tc (Post 1434839)
You realy should give credit to the original author of this post and the maker of the video staud8469 from XDA or atleast reference the original post from XDA http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...68&postcount=1 . Not saying your trying to take credit for it but it's nice to give credit when it's due it took staud8469 alot of time and work and he deserves credit for his work.
*Edit*
Original poster on XDA has taken credit.

What a WORTHLESS response, can't you PM him instead!? Your reply really helps with this thread. Thanks.


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