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jjday7 08-31-2009 08:51 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 for $350
 
I read one of the earlier post and didn't realize the amount of tax to be paid. this is way too high for a phone like this. I could understand the screen bigger and little more optimized being a plus but for me that 481 with tax 7% and then a rebate bringing it to 381. that is just crazy

cmajewsk 08-31-2009 09:07 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 for $350
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jjday7 (Post 1131535)
I read one of the earlier post and didn't realize the amount of tax to be paid. this is way too high for a phone like this. I could understand the screen bigger and little more optimized being a plus but for me that 481 with tax 7% and then a rebate bringing it to 381. that is just crazy

No kidding! Why are WinMo phones subsidized for $h1t? Especially compared to say, the iPhone? $199 - that should be the price of these phones and no f'ing MIR!

jjday7 08-31-2009 09:13 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 for $350
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cmajewsk (Post 1131587)
No kidding! Why are WinMo phones subsidized for $h1t? Especially compared to say, the iPhone? $199 - that should be the price of these phones and no f'ing MIR!

Because we keep buying them the day they come out and continue to buy them when even the touch pro has all the keyboard issues. It's supply and demand. no demand lower price. high demand, high price.... the exception is the pre and instinct because they were exclusives to get you to pay more per month.

The touch pro is still 299.00 on sprint and you can't even find them in the store. these phones are just ridiculously overpriced and will continue to be.

mikejones13 08-31-2009 09:14 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 for $350
 
Ya but when the iPhone came out wasn't it something like $499 then apple dropped the price a couple of weeks later and people were just a little mad. I still think this price is like this so sprint can sell the pre and require you to have a simply everything plan. Only because they don't require any simply anything plans for the Touch Pro2

erkme73 08-31-2009 09:17 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 for $350
 
With the same processor and memory as the TP - which already struggles with WM6.5 and tweaked roms on a 640x480 screen - I'd hate to think how sluggish the TP2 would be trying to drive 800x400... Up the processor and mem, and I might consider...

MikeElGiga23 08-31-2009 09:22 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 for $350
 
this is gona hurt since im gona prolly pay retail or buy used since i extended my contract not long ago with no upgrade option. i just sold my pre cuz i did not like a lot of things it lacked to wait and save up for a touch pro 2 but this throws me off a lot... i might go with the hero

Mylt1 08-31-2009 09:26 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 for $350
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by erkme73 (Post 1131615)
With the same processor and memory as the TP - which already struggles with WM6.5 and tweaked roms on a 640x480 screen - I'd hate to think how sluggish the TP2 would be trying to drive 800x400... Up the processor and mem, and I might consider...

i dont believe its the same chip. the TP has the Q7500 and the TP2 is the Q7600. both running at the same speed though so not sure what difference there will be.

frazell 08-31-2009 09:44 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 for $350
 
I guess you all thought that "world roaming" GSM Radio was coming free? Sprint is targeting the Touch Pro 2 to the executive market who most likely have their phones paid for by their corporations. This phone will sell just as well as the last without issues...

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmajewsk (Post 1131587)
No kidding! Why are WinMo phones subsidized for $h1t? Especially compared to say, the iPhone? $199 - that should be the price of these phones and no f'ing MIR!

The iPhone isn't a direct apples to apples comparison. The iPhone price dropped because Apple & AT&T wanted to rush adoption. The benefit to them both is the fact that an iPhone requires a higher rate plan and a fee reimbursed to Apple every month. With Apple getting kickbacks over the life of the device in addition to the upfront cost they can afford to make the deal look sweeter to unknowledgable consumers (those who fail to look at Total Cost of Ownership and instead only look at the retail price).

Biker1 08-31-2009 09:44 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 for $350
 
Regarding Sprint wanting to get customers on the SEP or have them switch to those plans to get the Pre, I remember customers asking Sprint why they had to switch plans in order to get the Instinct?
Their answer was that in order to use the full functionality of the Instinct, you needed the SEP because of the unlimited data.
The customer would respond that they already had a plan with Unlimited Data which was less expensive then the SEP.
Sprints response would be, well they didn't really have an answer.
I agree that purchasing or switching plans is on Sprint's agenda as to one of the reasons why such there is such a High price for the Pro 2.
But that will be short lived.

jjday7 08-31-2009 09:46 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 for $350
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mike20pr (Post 1131629)
this is gona hurt since im gona prolly pay retail or buy used since i extended my contract not long ago with no upgrade option. i just sold my pre cuz i did not like a lot of things it lacked to wait and save up for a touch pro 2 but this throws me off a lot... i might go with the hero

that's why I returned the pre partially. I didn't want to use my update on that phone and miss out on the better phones coming.

frazell 08-31-2009 09:49 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 for $350
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Biker1 (Post 1131701)
Regarding Sprint wanting to get customers on the SEP plans or have them switch to those plans to get the Pre, I remember customers asking Sprint why they had to switch plans in order to got the Instinct?
Their answer was that in order to use the full functionality of the Instinct, you needed the SEP plan because of the unlimited data.
The customer would respond that they already had a plan with Unlimited Data which was less expensive then the SEP plan.
Sprints response would be, well they didn't really have an answer.
I agree that purchasing or switching plans is on Sprint's agenda as to why such a High price for the Pro 2.
But that will be short lived.

Doubtful. I think you'll have to keep your eyes open an hope a Sprint reseller eats some of the cost and drops the device price. In the last two WinMo generations I've been with Spint (since the Mogul). I have yet to see then drop the price of their top end Windows Mobile device.

Just like the Touch Pro. It is considered "EOL" and they have it still at $299.99. I remember the Mogul was $299.99 until it was taken down off their website.

Maybe Amazon will hook you up like they did T-Mobile customers.

erkme73 08-31-2009 09:53 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 for $350
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mylt1 (Post 1131640)
i dont believe its the same chip. the TP has the Q7500 and the TP2 is the Q7600. both running at the same speed though so not sure what difference there will be.

That might be - and if there is a performance increase, it would warrant a second look. But according to the HTC site, they are identical...

Mylt1 08-31-2009 10:39 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 for $350
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by erkme73 (Post 1131732)
That might be - and if there is a performance increase, it would warrant a second look. But according to the HTC site, they are identical...

both chips operate at 538MHz but it all depends on how the chips process that info. 7500 Vs 7600.

Biker1 08-31-2009 10:41 PM

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Diamond all the way for me.
I was just chiming in on the price point of the Pro 2.

erkme73 08-31-2009 10:43 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 for $350
 
Agreed that clock speed is not painting the whole pictures. I did not know that the processors were different revisions. This has again peaked my interest. One thing is for certain - I would not plunk down this kind of money (with or without rebates) without first getting a good hands-on test-drive. I'd bring a loaded-up SD card with my main apps, and have at it.

I'm so sick of the TV commercials showing this TP just whipping through different menus, switching to camera, then album, then resize in real time. That's BS. Don't care what rom you have, none are instant. I'm on an Ambien high, just before the crash. I tend to get long winded... nite nite. enjoyed the dialog.

Lupin Saiko 08-31-2009 10:55 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 for $350
 
This price doesn't surprise me in regards to the history of HTC. It does surprise me in regards to how the market is shaped today. The iPhone which is pretty much the Cadillac of consumer grade smartphones is strutting its low end at $99 subsidized and $199 for top tier. HTC has always been viewed as a high expense almost luxury phone and they dont really seem to interested in shucking this image, except with T-Mobile.

I just picked up my Touch Pro for $99 on VZW and its not great, but at that price it sells. Assuming their TP2 has full RAM this time around as well as 3.5mm I would see $199 w/ contract a great price even $250 would be acceptable but $350 is beyond the pale.

maxnix 09-01-2009 12:30 AM

Re: Sprint TP2 for $350
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Biker1 (Post 1131302)
I get a feeling that people won't be jumping all over the Pro 2 like they did with the Pro.
I may be wrong, but if I am right, look for prices to drop in a short period of time.

I think you are right. I don't want to be on a TP2 for 2 years when LTE and WiMax 4G is rolled out next year.

BenC 09-01-2009 03:52 AM

Re: Sprint TP2 for $350
 
They might be, but those devices sure do not do what the TP does.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hypeo (Post 1131147)
Oh Yes!!! and the new crack berry Storm 2 just got slapped with a $99 price tag... That will certainly be beneficial to them. Many people are getting tired of the WM OS and are either going with Crap Berry's or Palm.

If only VZ would get the IPhone, That would almost spell doom for sprint and other companies.


abrigham 09-01-2009 11:55 AM

Re: Sprint TP2 for $350
 
Well, I'm personally not chomping at the bit to get a TP2, especially after seeing the price... then again, my contract expired back in March so maybe once the TP2 comes out, if I threaten to cancel my service maybe I can talk them into a break on an upgrade ;) ROFL... Actually, I doubt it will happen, but it would be worth a shot :)

brushrop03 09-01-2009 12:53 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 for $350
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by abrigham (Post 1132734)
Well, I'm personally not chomping at the bit to get a TP2, especially after seeing the price... then again, my contract expired back in March so maybe once the TP2 comes out, if I threaten to cancel my service maybe I can talk them into a break on an upgrade ;) ROFL... Actually, I doubt it will happen, but it would be worth a shot :)

Actually I don't think so. Picking up the phone and going through all the waiting and automated crap for them to say "no". Eh lol

abrigham 09-01-2009 05:59 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 for $350
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brushrop03 (Post 1132851)
Actually I don't think so. Picking up the phone and going through all the waiting and automated crap for them to say "no". Eh lol

Well, I'm actually considering canceling anyway, and flashing my phone over to Cricket. So if they do say no, I'll just have accomplished what I was planning to do in the first place, and if they do give me a substantial discount, then score! :headbang:

Lilhgarcia 09-01-2009 06:04 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 for $350
 
Do they really just hand people a TP2 when the your TP breaks? if that was the case people will purposely break it and save a bunch so i doubt itll be that easy

What i did with mogul - TP is told them I had to swap my mogul for another one over 7 times because of different problems thats my plan since i had 5 replacement TP

but yeah 350 with 2 years and after 100 rebates thats just crazy

Spiderman313 09-01-2009 06:24 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 for $350
 
im thinking about getting mine from tmobile for 200, sprint versio is just too exspensive

brushrop03 09-01-2009 06:26 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 for $350
 
idk if i want a contact with t-mobile

Noir 09-01-2009 06:38 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 for $350
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lilhgarcia (Post 1133618)
Do they really just hand people a TP2 when the your TP breaks? if that was the case people will purposely break it and save a bunch so i doubt itll be that easy

What i did with mogul - TP is told them I had to swap my mogul for another one over 7 times because of different problems thats my plan since i had 5 replacement TP

but yeah 350 with 2 years and after 100 rebates thats just crazy

vzw does...
but they may be getting a bit more strict with it...considering people like me are on their 8th touch pro since april and still prone to issues
they may give factory refurbs as new devices for the phone exchange
I can't say sprint will do the same but verizon will for sure

Lilhgarcia 09-01-2009 11:42 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 for $350
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Noir (Post 1133692)
vzw does...
but they may be getting a bit more strict with it...considering people like me are on their 8th touch pro since april and still prone to issues
they may give factory refurbs as new devices for the phone exchange
I can't say sprint will do the same but verizon will for sure

yeah thats what i had to do is wait for someone to return there TP and then ill be able to exchange it

But it tooks months since no one wanted to replace the TP lucky for me i have someone that works @ sprint so I can get a new TP2 when it comes out


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