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SweetBearCub 08-04-2009 04:11 AM

Re: I really hate 6.5's interface...
 
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Originally Posted by mlin (Post 1080210)
Will you shoot me a message before you go driving so I can stay off the road for a while?:mrgreen:

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Originally Posted by ou2mame (Post 1080464)
honestly, if i pulled over everytime i grabbed my phone, i wouldn't get anywhere. i live in ny, its kind of hard to agree with these potential laws. i've never been in an accident while i was moving, every accident i've been in, i was parked or in the shower. literally. my car was backed into 3x in 2 months by the same house, 2 of the times i was in the shower.

but yeah, big buttons, easy access to them, little to no effort to navigate, and i'm a happy camper. i even installed the diamond keyboard so the keys are bigger lol

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Test after test has been done that proves that using a cell phone in any way, whether or not you are texting or speaking, whether or not you are holding the phone in your hand or using a handsfree device, while driving produces a loss of concentration. In fact, most studies, equate the effect with the skill level of a drunk driver.

As important as your phone is, remember that every single time you take your eyes off the road for even a second, you increase your chances to have an accident.

You say you're a safe driver? What about everyone else? You need to be watching them so you can react if they do something unexpected, and you can't do that if you're distracted by your phone.

I used to drive for a living - Please take my advice and either turn the phone off while you're in the car (and make it known to people that there is a good reason for it) or pull over to use it.

If you object to the idea of this on the grounds that you have a busy life - Think about how we all somehow managed to cope 30 years ago, back when cell phones were only a distant dream. Yep, there was a time where the concept of being connected 24/7 was unknown, and even then, we managed to function, no matter how busy we were.

Let me propose a way to see just how distracted a cell phone makes you while driving - How many times have you been doing something on your phone and missed a turn or exit, or missed the fact that the light turned green and only moved because the person behind you blew their horn? I bet that number is not zero.

Remember that all it takes is one single moment of inattention to either take a life or leave someone (yourself included) crippled for life. I also speak from experience that being in a power wheelchair is not fun! (I use one daily, for an unrelated reason).

[/Serious Mode]

ou2mame 08-04-2009 07:38 AM

Re: I really hate 6.5's interface...
 
i'm not trying to start a debate on driving while texting, because that seems to be the hot issue these days, with states making it laws and whatnot. i got pulled over in minnesota for using my cellphone while driving. funny thing is, its legal to talk on the phone, just not "look" at it. kind of a backwards law. anyways, most of my job involves driving. it involves calling clients, and it involves constant communication. how would i manage 30 years ago? honestly, my job wouldn't even exist 30 years ago, because my job relies completely on that constant communication. i'm not saying its dangerous or not dangerous, i'm just stating that my driving record involves accidents where i wasn't moving. people are asking me to text them when i'm on the road, and i have absolutely no record proving i'm any sort of danger to anyone around me. personally, i honestly don't think that texting safely is putting anybody in harms way. you take your eyes off the road to change a song on your ipod, or look at how fast you're going, check your engine temp. i take mine off the road while driving in a straight line with nobody driving next to me to check to see who txt'd me, and then blind type my response, and look it over in about 1.5 seconds and hit send w/out looking. in reality, my mind might be elsewhere, but my eyes are on the road through most of that exchange. these laws aren't there to protect people, they're there to get money.

for example, redlight cameras. while we're on the topic of safety and government. do you find it ironic that stop lights equipped with redlight cameras have at least 50% higher chances of rear end accidents? those are the accidents where low speeds can break necks and cripple people for the rest of their lives. the government found some way to statistically state that it doesn't put anyone in danger, and somehow they twisted pvalues and whatnot to further that argument, and actually convince people that this is a good idea. whatever statistics you are reading, are most likely skewed when money is involved. especially government money.

anyway, i don't really want to argue about this, but this is where i'm coming from. if you don't like it, take it up with your senator. i'll do it as long as its legal, and probably after. i'll just be more cautious, and keep an eye out for the police, which will put the public at a greater risk because i'll be looking in bushes and in underpasses for the police, while texting and driving. i wonder what thats the equivalent to....probably driving drunk on meth while breastfeeding a baby.

dodge_longhorn 08-04-2009 08:58 AM

Re: I really hate 6.5's interface...
 
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Originally Posted by SweetBearCub (Post 1080553)
[Serious Mode]

Test after test has been done that proves that using a cell phone in any way, whether or not you are texting or speaking, whether or not you are holding the phone in your hand or using a handsfree device, while driving produces a loss of concentration. In fact, most studies, equate the effect with the skill level of a drunk driver.

As important as your phone is, remember that every single time you take your eyes off the road for even a second, you increase your chances to have an accident.

You say you're a safe driver? What about everyone else? You need to be watching them so you can react if they do something unexpected, and you can't do that if you're distracted by your phone.

I used to drive for a living - Please take my advice and either turn the phone off while you're in the car (and make it known to people that there is a good reason for it) or pull over to use it.

If you object to the idea of this on the grounds that you have a busy life - Think about how we all somehow managed to cope 30 years ago, back when cell phones were only a distant dream. Yep, there was a time where the concept of being connected 24/7 was unknown, and even then, we managed to function, no matter how busy we were.

Let me propose a way to see just how distracted a cell phone makes you while driving - How many times have you been doing something on your phone and missed a turn or exit, or missed the fact that the light turned green and only moved because the person behind you blew their horn? I bet that number is not zero.

Remember that all it takes is one single moment of inattention to either take a life or leave someone (yourself included) crippled for life. I also speak from experience that being in a power wheelchair is not fun! (I use one daily, for an unrelated reason).

[/Serious Mode]

i am sorry but the guy has a point do you not see cops lately they are on a freakin laptop 24/7 driving as well now tell me who is driving safe now, plus i use my cell phone and i drive a 3/4 ton dodge which is a 5spd i can talk drive and shift all at the same time, not using a head set and i never been in a freaking accident been all over this freaking country west coast to east coast put over 246k miles onto my truck so but you are also right about people txting and not paying attention

brushrop03 08-04-2009 10:26 AM

Re: I really hate 6.5's interface...
 
Well this thread has gone to hell...I was wondering why it made 5 pgs. Now i see its not even on topic anymore

dschoenike 08-04-2009 10:39 AM

Re: I really hate 6.5's interface...
 
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Originally Posted by brushrop03 (Post 1080866)
Well this thread has gone to hell...I was wondering why it made 5 pgs. Now i see its not even on topic anymore

What topic? :) I just needed to add my personal experience with cell phone use and driving. I was involved in 2 accidents in past 3 years, and although i was declared "not at fault" in each incident, im fairly certain they could have been avoided if i hadnt been using my cell.
dschoenike

gorelow 08-04-2009 12:44 PM

Re: I really hate 6.5's interface...
 
the best thing about the start menu is that you can pull your favs to the tops. i would think the avg person uses their fav apps 90 percent of the time so they would always be accessible at the top as they would be in 6.1. just my opinion

brushrop03 08-04-2009 02:17 PM

Re: I really hate 6.5's interface...
 
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Originally Posted by gorelow (Post 1081114)
the best thing about the start menu is that you can pull your favs to the tops. i would think the avg person uses their fav apps 90 percent of the time so they would always be accessible at the top as they would be in 6.1. just my opinion

True. But in 6.1 you had your favs/recents in the start drop down. Much better IMO :)

esqueue 08-04-2009 03:26 PM

Re: I really hate 6.5's interface...
 
I honestly find the main page worthless. I run it with tf3d and is quite happy.

psycho_maniac 08-04-2009 03:56 PM

Re: I really hate 6.5's interface...
 
haha i started all this because i told him his fat icons were ulgy

ou2mame 08-04-2009 05:40 PM

Re: I really hate 6.5's interface...
 
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Originally Posted by psycho_maniac (Post 1081533)
haha i started all this because i told him his fat icons were ulgy

lol don't hate yourself

gimme5 08-04-2009 11:40 PM

Re: I really hate 6.5's interface...
 
I think Titanium is nice, but I prefer TF3D2. I prefer the 6.1 start menu, just because of the MRU (why take that away?).

psycho_maniac 08-04-2009 11:47 PM

Re: I really hate 6.5's interface...
 
i agree. i like 6.1 start menu and i love tf3d. havent tried tf3d2 yet

gimme5 08-04-2009 11:49 PM

Re: I really hate 6.5's interface...
 
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Originally Posted by psycho_maniac (Post 1082302)
i agree. i like 6.1 start menu and i love tf3d. havent tried tf3d2 yet

The main advantage of TF3D2 in my opinion is the Calendar tab, which I find extremely useful.

piranah 08-05-2009 01:46 AM

Re: I really hate 6.5's interface...
 
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Originally Posted by gimme5 (Post 1082297)
I think Titanium is nice, but I prefer TF3D2. I prefer the 6.1 start menu, just because of the MRU (why take that away?).

You can add that feature back in 6.5, just to let you know

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Originally Posted by Asphyx (Post 1080537)
Well IMO 6.5 is nothing more than 6.1 with a new today wallpaper and paint job plus a crapload of bugs added for good measure! LOL

As for those who say it is more finger friendly well thats only if you never leave titanium...everything else is just as unfinger friendly as 6.1....

UNLESS you install HTC menu enhancements and ezinput which works just as well on 6.1 as it does on 6.5!

Did you notice the battery increase? I went from a half day to a full day, with 200-300 texts a day, plus email and data usage. I know it depends on the ROM, but it seems to be across the board on this.

Finger friendly is relative. i havent had a problem using either, even with my fat fingers. and if i do have a problem, that what the stylus is for right? i must say that the 6.5 menu is easier to use, a little bigger icons and the offset makes it a little easier to click the right app.

gimme5 08-05-2009 02:41 AM

Re: I really hate 6.5's interface...
 
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Originally Posted by piranah (Post 1082425)
You can add that feature back in 6.5, just to let you know

How can I do that? I would love to get it back!

psycho_maniac 08-05-2009 03:24 AM

Re: I really hate 6.5's interface...
 
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Originally Posted by gimme5 (Post 1082468)
How can I do that? I would love to get it back!

same here. tell us now!! haha

dodge_longhorn 08-05-2009 10:39 AM

Re: I really hate 6.5's interface...
 
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Originally Posted by psycho_maniac (Post 1082504)
same here. tell us now!! haha

there is a cab floating around like old start menu you can look at xbod thread over at xda and search there would be your best bet

WorldWide 08-05-2009 12:00 PM

Re: I really hate 6.5's interface...
 
TF3D has just run it's course with me. I Just plain ol can't stand it.

studentjunk 08-05-2009 05:59 PM

Re: I really hate 6.5's interface...
 
Anybody know how to select multiple files in total commander or in the email in 6.5? I've noticed that some 6.1 ROMs don't do it. I imagine for 6.1, there is a setting or file that does that.

I like TF3d, but mostly cause I'm comfortable with it. I figured out how to keep my favorite icons on top even after I flash (don't remember how, probably a reg setting). I also prefer the old start menu, but wouldn't mind trying 6.5 some more. But that scrolling thing drives me nut!!!

Asphyx 08-05-2009 07:15 PM

Re: I really hate 6.5's interface...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by piranah (Post 1082425)
You can add that feature back in 6.5, just to let you know



Did you notice the battery increase? I went from a half day to a full day, with 200-300 texts a day, plus email and data usage. I know it depends on the ROM, but it seems to be across the board on this.

Finger friendly is relative. i havent had a problem using either, even with my fat fingers. and if i do have a problem, that what the stylus is for right? i must say that the 6.5 menu is easier to use, a little bigger icons and the offset makes it a little easier to click the right app.

I didn't see much of a battery increase with 6.5....no...
But I have mostly run tweaked 6.1's that already give me excellent battery usage.
The key to the battery is really radio control. Push Internet and 5min mail checks are what really kill the batteries.

I'm more concerned about missed calls which happens a lot on 6.5
Probably less so now that DCD and a few more stable leaks have come on the scene.

I'm a video engineer on a mobile production truck and my phone is my most important tool so until more of the bugs are shaken out of 6.5 I won't be cooking with it anytime soon.
I even stayed away from TF3D 2.0 until the tachi dialer came out and made it work correctly.

It's getting much better but I was commenting on the fact that very little has actually changed between the two...MS has to do a better job if they don't want to lose all their marketshare to the apple weenies!

psycho_maniac 08-05-2009 08:20 PM

Re: I really hate 6.5's interface...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by studentjunk (Post 1083609)
Anybody know how to select multiple files in total commander or in the email in 6.5? I've noticed that some 6.1 ROMs don't do it. I imagine for 6.1, there is a setting or file that does that.

i noticed this too. i couldnt select more than one file in total commander.
in email you just hit menu/selecti.../several/ and you can just touch the ones you want to select.


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