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iviyth0s 07-12-2009 12:50 AM

Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
I was wondering if anyone is kinda PO'd about the TP2 having less keys then the TP has. I mean yeah it will be *easier* to use but I've never found the TP's keyboard hard to use at all and it has way more functionality then the new one does. Isn't the beauty of having a Windows Mobile phone is functionality?? I wish they kept the same keyboard instead of the same processor and stuff, which actually NEEDS the improvement haha. Who's with me?? (and no I haven't tried it myself yet, but I imagine it's more like a sidekick/Rant/Rumor etc.)

frazell 07-12-2009 02:29 AM

Re: Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
I'm with you!

The Touch Pro 2 is a pure let down. I guess HTC will milk those willing to shell out anything to them before the WinMo 7 devices. I'm skipping until WinMo 7 devices hit.

Screwed KB, same hardware, no flash, no d-pad... All I can really grab at are slightly larger screen & gsm roaming... Neither worth an upgrade for me.

shaggylive 07-12-2009 02:33 AM

Re: Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
yea, try using the phone on a dusty road, touchflo is not compatible..
oh wait, tp's have a keyboard? too bad no mouse.

mlin 07-12-2009 02:34 AM

Re: Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
I haven't used it yet, but I think the keyboard looks infinitly better

TheRealHotshot 07-12-2009 05:17 AM

Re: Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mlin (Post 1030509)
I haven't used it yet, but I think the keyboard looks infinitly better

+1 for that post I'm with you on that. I mean seriously you lose a "few" keys but you get a better more spaced out keyboard. Like the tp keyboard but keys so cramped harder to type but that's just for me

ou2mame 07-12-2009 05:26 AM

Re: Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
the entire phone looks infinitely better. the buttons don't appear to have the same "about to fall off" feel, and the dpad on the tp is such a letdown that getting rid of it was the only logical step, i wish my phone didn't have it in the first place because its virtually useless. up and down aren't bad, but left are right result in either hanging up (which closes whatever program you're using, or hitting the back button, hitting home, or worse yet, calling somebody. its the worst design i've ever seen for anything. my dell axim x30 had an amazing dpad because it worked perfectly. the tilt's dpad is great also. they somehow managed to mess up a dpad, i don't know who approved its design, but the entire assembly is a mess.

i'll be getting a tp2 when it comes to sprint merely to get rid of the current hardware quirks of my tp. i'd be willing to deal with a new set of problems in a heart beat at this point. my volume buttons, and power button don't click anymore, the volume buttons get stuck in the up or down position that can only be corrected by prying them up with a nail file. this phone is the most amazingly unfunctional device i've ever seen for the money.

heydjbobby74 07-12-2009 10:19 AM

Re: Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
Yeah the phone looks better, but do you really want to spend a couple hundred dollars to get something that looks better?
I think its a waste of money, I too will be waiting for the WinMo7 devices, then I'll probably wait a while longer to see what feedback those devices get!
I LOVE my TP. No issues whatsoever with it! As long as its running, I don't see why I would leave it at all until it breaks from usage... peace my brothers

southphillysean 07-12-2009 10:22 AM

Re: Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
well i am jaked to get the TP2.

boredandtattooed 07-12-2009 11:58 AM

Re: Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
umm have any of you even held or used a TP2??? im gonna guess its a no, so how does anyone really know?

it looks better.. bigger keys, offset keys(like a real keyboard is).. im sure itll be easier to type.. they can take off the whole row of top numbers imho... half the time i still hit "
fn" then hit a number anyways so i personally wouldnt mind having to do this again..

i think itll be better...especially for people who dont have the tiny hands that the original TP though we all had lol

CovKid66 07-12-2009 12:59 PM

Re: Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRealHotshot (Post 1030578)
+1 for that post I'm with you on that. I mean seriously you lose a "few" keys but you get a better more spaced out keyboard. Like the tp keyboard but keys so cramped harder to type but that's just for me

+1 here too. I haven't used it yet either but I just remember going from a 6800 to the TP and finding the keyboard cramped in comparision. I'm looking forward to trying it, but that's only my opinion. Each to their own, and everyone will always have a different need or preference to the next guy. I will end on this note....I find I use the slide out kbd less on the TP than I did on the 6800 for small amounts of typing, and I can only believe that's because the TP keyboard is hit and miss with the cramped non-offset layout.

CovKid66 07-12-2009 01:05 PM

Re: Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
Ah sweet, with that last post I just realized I am no longer a sad ol' Lurker. Happy dance :headbang:

EDIT: Not too sure 'N00b' sounds any better :disgust: but I'm working on it!

mlin 07-12-2009 01:21 PM

Re: Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by covkid66 (Post 1030947)
+1 here too. I haven't used it yet either but I just remember going from a 6800 to the TP and finding the keyboard cramped in comparision. I'm looking forward to trying it, but that's only my opinion. Each to their own, and everyone will always have a different need or preference to the next guy. I will end on this note....I find I use the slide out kbd less on the TP than I did on the 6800 for small amounts of typing, and I can only believe that's because the TP keyboard is hit and miss with the cramped non-offset layout.

Agreed, the keyboard on the 6800 was great and so much easier to type on!

CovKid66 07-12-2009 01:25 PM

Re: Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mlin (Post 1030993)
Agreed, the keyboard on the 6800 was great and so much easier to type on!

Believe it or not I was cleaning up my bedside cabinet yesterday (sad but true) and found my 6800. Opened her up and realized what I was missing. Other than the screen resolution and the memory issues, I'd switch back to it in a heart beat! The keyboard, plus the reliable d-pad, and the extra hard keys on the front were the things I really missed when I upgraded to a TP. C'est la vie!

frazell 07-12-2009 02:19 PM

Re: Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by covkid66 (Post 1031005)
Believe it or not I was cleaning up my bedside cabinet yesterday (sad but true) and found my 6800. Opened her up and realized what I was missing. Other than the screen resolution and the memory issues, I'd switch back to it in a heart beat! The keyboard, plus the reliable d-pad, and the extra hard keys on the front were the things I really missed when I upgraded to a TP. C'est la vie!

All things we won't even get back with the TP2...

:(

difrent7 07-12-2009 04:53 PM

Re: Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
The keyboard can be amazing but if it has lag issues it is really just pointless.

TheRealHotshot 07-12-2009 05:26 PM

Re: Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by covkid66 (Post 1030959)
Ah sweet, with that last post I just realized I am no longer a sad ol' Lurker. Happy dance :headbang:

EDIT: Not too sure 'N00b' sounds any better :disgust: but I'm working on it!

Lmao seriously I laughed at that post for a good 2mins...the *edit* part did it for me :mrgreen:

Back on topic without using the tp2 I think they kb will be better. Using spaced out keyboard on phones before really makes a difference

chong67 07-12-2009 10:59 PM

Re: Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
How much longer when TP2 will be coming to Sprint? I cant wait any longer.

CovKid66 07-13-2009 12:55 AM

Re: Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRealHotshot (Post 1031480)
Lmao seriously I laughed at that post for a good 2mins...the *edit* part did it for me :mrgreen:

Back on topic without using the tp2 I think they kb will be better. Using spaced out keyboard on phones before really makes a difference

From Lurker to N00b to Regular in one day! Told ya I was working on it :mrgreen:

neurotek 07-13-2009 05:07 AM

Re: Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
I think the TP2 keyboard is way better seeing one of my fingers covers >5 keys on the current TP pretty much. DPAD does suck, it's replaced by a dedicated slider dealio. I just wish the TP2 was capacitive touch. I don't think it is at least. The lack of architecture upgrade is a bummer though. If I could get one CHEAP i would, but my TP1 will have to last for now. (hopefully I can fix the screen, just dropped it today too)

AceXMachine 07-13-2009 05:50 AM

Re: Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mlin (Post 1030509)
I haven't used it yet, but I think the keyboard looks infinitly better

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRealHotshot (Post 1030578)
+1 for that post I'm with you on that. I mean seriously you lose a "few" keys but you get a better more spaced out keyboard. Like the tp keyboard but keys so cramped harder to type but that's just for me

Quote:

Originally Posted by covkid66 (Post 1030947)
+1 here too. I haven't used it yet either but I just remember going from a 6800 to the TP and finding the keyboard cramped in comparision. I'm looking forward to trying it, but that's only my opinion. Each to their own, and everyone will always have a different need or preference to the next guy. I will end on this note....I find I use the slide out kbd less on the TP than I did on the 6800 for small amounts of typing, and I can only believe that's because the TP keyboard is hit and miss with the cramped non-offset layout.

Quote:

Originally Posted by neurotek (Post 1032405)
I think the TP2 keyboard is way better seeing one of my fingers covers >5 keys on the current TP pretty much. DPAD does suck, it's replaced by a dedicated slider dealio. I just wish the TP2 was capacitive touch. I don't think it is at least. The lack of architecture upgrade is a bummer though. If I could get one CHEAP i would, but my TP1 will have to last for now. (hopefully I can fix the screen, just dropped it today too)

Sorry, but I had to laugh at some of these. Especially the comment about how the keyboard "looks" better. Because thats what really matters for a keyboard...how it looks. The only thing that looks matter on are chicks, cars and my *** and not necessarily in that order. Don't flame me, I know that you meant that the keyboard looked like it would be better (for typing on), not just look asthetically better...it just made me laugh. The OP made a good point. With the bigger screen for on-screen typing to handle normal stuff, they could afford to put a more complete/functional keyboard on the device instead of giving me a Rant/Rumor/*enter cheap *** LG/Samsung/etc POS Qwerty device here* keyboard. As mentioned before, missing the top row of numbers is a no go, hated using the Fn keys on the 6700, 6800 etc and will hate it on the TP2. No flash, gimped keyboard, and the only plusses are a bigger screen? I think I will wait until the TP3...or 4. Going back to the TP2 keyboard, I question the helpfulness of it being offset. PC keyboards are offset for ergonomics since you are using, in most cases, both hands and most if not all your fingers. Since I doubt any of you use any more than your thumbs on both hands I do not see the benefit from an offset. However, since the thumb is generally the biggest "finger" on the hand that does make the argument that bigger keys = easier typing, no dispute there. +1 to the OPs post.

Major_Nate 07-13-2009 08:19 AM

Re: Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
I must say, I love my Touch Pro keyboard. I went from my mogul to this one, and I feel the best addition that they made was the Ctrl key. I'm glad they'll be keeping it on the TP2, but I can't really see spending another $400-500 on a newer version of my phone that has a lil bigger screen, bigger speakerphone, and a zoom bar at the bottom of the screen. Also, I enjoy the liberal use of my "tab" key on my pro as well, which is not pictured on the TP2. Plus the closeness of all the keys makes it easier for me personally to text one handed.

brushrop03 07-13-2009 08:21 AM

Re: Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
I liked the keyboard of my Mogul better than the TP. The TP is just a little cramped. I've gotten use to it, but i was much more comfortable holding that Mogul. I had no issue with hitting that FN key to get to my numbers. Really don't need a seperate row for numbers on my TP. It's not like I'm typing numbers most of the time.

Someone mentioned if the Mogul had a better resolution and more memory they would get back on it. Well I probably would too.

slvrap1 07-13-2009 10:06 AM

Re: Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
Id be happy as long as the keyboard ......works. My 4th tp is staaaaaarting to go out :disgust:

TheRealHotshot 07-13-2009 11:00 AM

Re: Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AceXMachine (Post 1032421)
Sorry, but I had to laugh at some of these. Especially the comment about how the keyboard "looks" better. Because thats what really matters for a keyboard...how it looks. The only thing that looks matter on are chicks, cars and my *** and not necessarily in that order. Don't flame me, I know that you meant that the keyboard looked like it would be better (for typing on), not just look asthetically better...it just made me laugh. The OP made a good point. With the bigger screen for on-screen typing to handle normal stuff, they could afford to put a more complete/functional keyboard on the device instead of giving me a Rant/Rumor/*enter cheap *** LG/Samsung/etc POS Qwerty device here* keyboard. As mentioned before, missing the top row of numbers is a no go, hated using the Fn keys on the 6700, 6800 etc and will hate it on the TP2. No flash, gimped keyboard, and the only plusses are a bigger screen? I think I will wait until the TP3...or 4. Going back to the TP2 keyboard, I question the helpfulness of it being offset. PC keyboards are offset for ergonomics since you are using, in most cases, both hands and most if not all your fingers. Since I doubt any of you use any more than your thumbs on both hands I do not see the benefit from an offset. However, since the thumb is generally the biggest "finger" on the hand that does make the argument that bigger keys = easier typing, no dispute there. +1 to the OPs post.

Lmaoooo at your post...so your whole post is about how some ppl think they keyboard looks better? But you use a poor excuse for only thing that matters when it comes to a woman looks? Hey my friend not everything that looks better so she's a pretty woman but might have a shi*** attitude so is her looks worth it now? Ummm no I have USED tons of phones before and I myself perfer spaced out keys cause I pump out a lot of texts/emails. So I have a feeling a feeling the tp2 keyboard will be better for me. But hey it might not be won't know til I buy it. So next time you post blindly on another person opinion just remember its an opinion you have yours everyone else have they own. So imma give u a -1 for your blind rage post hahaha so attacking ppls opinion's /facepalm

AceXMachine 07-13-2009 11:24 AM

Re: Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRealHotshot (Post 1032653)
Lmaoooo at your post...so your whole post is about how some ppl think they keyboard looks better? But you use a poor excuse for only thing that matters when it comes to a woman looks? Hey my friend not everything that looks better so she's a pretty woman but might have a shi*** attitude so is her looks worth it now? Ummm no I have USED tons of phones before and I myself perfer spaced out keys cause I pump out a lot of texts/emails. So I have a feeling a feeling the tp2 keyboard will be better for me. But hey it might not be won't know til I buy it. So next time you post blindly on another person opinion just remember its an opinion you have yours everyone else have they own. So imma give u a -1 for your blind rage post hahaha so attacking ppls opinion's /facepalm


Wow...I cannot believe I have to explain myself on this. I'll go slow so you can keep up ok? The whole "chick" etc comment was a punchline...a ****ing joke...you caught me. I'm married, so if my wife were to risk being caught dead here an read that she would kick my ***...or make me wish she could. Are you happy? Jesus Christ. I did not "post blindly" on anyone's opinion nor could what I said be misconstrued as "blind rage" (you got something against the blind, or do you just like using "blind" statements/stereotypes that don't apply?). And of course I am posting my opinion, who elses opinion would I post wiseass? I don't give a flying dimple pig **** what you want in your keyboard, but you sure as hell won't see me posting behind you saying "ohhhh but thats only your opinion"......I allready ****ing know that and so does everyone else here, thanks for nothing? Do me a favor, either take a joke/comment or leave it alone. I don't think anyoe here needed you to rescue them from my "blindly posted, blind rage induced opinion".

redd214 07-13-2009 11:44 AM

Re: Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
all this complaining and *****in over something none of us have even tried yet lol!! its like saying you hate someone that you never met or havent even had a conversation with. calm down guys at least get the thing in your hands first

nyclio 07-13-2009 11:58 AM

Re: Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
Maybe it's not a big deal to some of you guys, but not having a Tab key is a real dealbreaker for me. You don't know how good that key is until you lose it (I went from Sprint TP to VZW TP)

TheRealHotshot 07-13-2009 12:03 PM

Re: Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AceXMachine (Post 1032686)
Wow...I cannot believe I have to explain myself on this. I'll go slow so you can keep up ok? The whole "chick" etc comment was a punchline...a ****ing joke...you caught me. I'm married, so if my wife were to risk being caught dead here an read that she would kick my ***...or make me wish she could. Are you happy? Jesus Christ. I did not "post blindly" on anyone's opinion nor could what I said be misconstrued as "blind rage" (you got something against the blind, or do you just like using "blind" statements/stereotypes that don't apply?). And of course I am posting my opinion, who elses opinion would I post wiseass? I don't give a flying dimple pig **** what you want in your keyboard, but you sure as hell won't see me posting behind you saying "ohhhh but thats only your opinion"......I allready ****ing know that and so does everyone else here, thanks for nothing? Do me a favor, either take a joke/comment or leave it alone. I don't think anyoe here needed you to rescue them from my "blindly posted, blind rage induced opinion".

After reading you post than understandin I can't read you post imma give you a chance to "edit" it if you want. I'm just saying you posting about how me or whatever thinks the offset keyboard looks better and will work better as wrong cause we going off only on looks than use a tasteless "chick look joke" post would only make me or soon somebody else post about your post. That's all I'm saying bro..cheers

elmerfudpucker 07-13-2009 12:52 PM

Re: Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
The TP2 looks good but I got my sights set on the Omnia Pro. If its stats match the Omnia then the added hard keyboard, I will drop HTC and Sprint and never look back.

psooky 07-13-2009 01:29 PM

Re: Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
Get rid of the 'favorites' and 'email' key and give me a freaking underscore key and I'll be happy.

banjoeball 07-13-2009 01:46 PM

Re: Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
!!WHY can't we all just GET ALONG!!

AceXMachine 07-13-2009 01:57 PM

Re: Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRealHotshot (Post 1032741)
After reading you post than understandin I can't read you post imma give you a chance to "edit" it if you want. I'm just saying you posting about how me or whatever thinks the offset keyboard looks better and will work better as wrong cause we going off only on looks than use a tasteless "chick look joke" post would only make me or soon somebody else post about your post. That's all I'm saying bro..cheers

OMG blow me...You type that bunch of **** and say you can't understand me.....whatever dude

TheRealHotshot 07-13-2009 02:29 PM

Re: Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AceXMachine (Post 1032966)
OMG blow me...You type that bunch of **** and say you can't understand me.....whatever dude

LMAOOOOOO I love when ppl can give an opinion about other ppl opinion's but can't take it when someone have an opinion about there opinion. So what they do? Lash out I'm just saying bro everyone have they own opinion about the tp2 keyboard some think better some think worst just don't see how you get a kick out of ppl who said the keyboard looks better when you used an half a** example and think someone wasn't gonna check you on it? Yea righttttt. Bottemline you don't like the KB. I like the KB end of story. Right? Let agree to disagree :) before they close this thread down ok /facepalm

AceXMachine 07-13-2009 02:37 PM

Re: Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRealHotshot (Post 1033025)
LMAOOOOOO I love when ppl can give an opinion about other ppl opinion's but can't take it when someone have an opinion about there opinion. So what they do? Lash out I'm just saying bro everyone have they own opinion about the tp2 keyboard some think better some think worst just don't see how you get a kick out of ppl who said the keyboard looks better when you used an half a** example and think someone wasn't gonna check you on it? Yea righttttt. Bottemline you don't like the KB. I like the KB end of story. Right? Let agree to disagree :) before they close this thread down ok /facepalm

Listen idiot, I need you to focus because this is wasting my time. I have allready said I don't give a **** about your opinion...Its yours, do what you want with it. This was never the "my opinion is better than yours" that you made it out to be. I voiced my opinion after making the comment and I even pointed out that I knew what he meant, and I just found humor in the irony, nothing more. The only thing you need to be "checkin" is your own grammar. FYI, I agreed to disagree with you before you even posted. Knowing your opinion is not a prerequisite to disagreeing with it and it was a given that we would disagree. Way to point out the ****ing obvious. Now for the love of Christ, STFU allready.

one0one951 07-13-2009 02:52 PM

Re: Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
I don't like the color scheme that I've seen in pics and I have my fingers crossed that it turns out to be different. I do like the new offset and the larger keys of course as I text quite a bit. I am concerned with the loss of the TAB and CTRL keys because I use them regularly. I was worried about the loss of the D-pad too and I have already started trying to practice not using it or the other buttons...I know I am not going to be able to resist the power of the dark side when it comes out. I survived losing all the buttons on my Mogul, I guess I will manage on this one too. :)

TheRealHotshot 07-13-2009 02:53 PM

Re: Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AceXMachine (Post 1033050)
Listen idiot, I need you to focus because this is wasting my time. I have allready said I don't give a **** about your opinion...Its yours, do what you want with it. This was never the "my opinion is better than yours" that you made it out to be. I voiced my opinion after making the comment and I even pointed out that I knew what he meant, and I just found humor in the irony, nothing more. The only thing you need to be "checkin" is your own grammar. FYI, I agreed to disagree with you before you even posted. Knowing your opinion is not a prerequisite to disagreeing with it and it was a given that we would disagree. Way to point out the ****ing obvious. Now for the love of Christ, STFU allready.

Hey you! Stop that right now! Beating that dead horse! Its DEAD you looking childish and like a hurt woman you need an E-hug or something? I love ppl who wear there hearts on there sleeves on an online forum amazing. I really got ya going this morning/afternoon but its ok I know I know seem like I'm picking on you and your opinion and wack and lame post its ok *rubs thumb and middle finger together* you see this...this is the world smallest violin playing world saddest song just for you and your emo post lmaooooo loser you can't even be CIVIL with lames anymore online before they go in a fit Bi***'in...Whine'in... And Complaini'n boo hoo I'm done with this. Back on topic I like the tp2 keyboard +1 in my book for the offset keys. I'm gone :mrgreen:

AceXMachine 07-13-2009 06:38 PM

Re: Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRealHotshot (Post 1033082)
Hey you! Stop that right now! Beating that dead horse! Its DEAD you looking childish and like a hurt woman you need an E-hug or something? I love ppl who wear there hearts on there sleeves on an online forum amazing. I really got ya going this morning/afternoon but its ok I know I know seem like I'm picking on you and your opinion and wack and lame post its ok *rubs thumb and middle finger together* you see this...this is the world smallest violin playing world saddest song just for you and your emo post lmaooooo loser you can't even be CIVIL with lames anymore online before they go in a fit Bi***'in...Whine'in... And Complaini'n boo hoo I'm done with this. Back on topic I like the tp2 keyboard +1 in my book for the offset keys. I'm gone :mrgreen:

LOL and you call me childish. Glad you're done, I was getting tired of reading your drivel.

TheRealHotshot 07-13-2009 07:27 PM

Re: Who else hates the Touch Pro 2's keyboard??
 
+1 for offset keyboard :mrgreen: bring on the tp2 sprint viva la touch pro 2 (my new campaign lol)


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