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schnebs1 04-19-2009 11:41 PM

Touch Pro - Anyone know the max number of flashes before the memory dies?
 
Just wondering how many flashes the memory can take, as I flash 2-3 times a week, and did have to do a warranty replacement of my last Touch Pro due to memory issues. (It just started leaking data. I would have to hard reset once a day just to maintain a useable phone)

Thanks!

schnebs1 04-20-2009 02:07 AM

Re: Touch Pro - Anyone know the max number of flashes before the memory dies?
 
That makes sense, thanks for the response

bikeandestroyx 04-20-2009 03:42 AM

Re: Touch Pro - Anyone know the max number of flashes before the memory dies?
 
10,000 is correct
if you flashed one rom a day for about 27 years you will reach the limit
:evil4:
and by that time i think we will have the super Touch HD pro 73

lordhelmet 04-20-2009 04:06 AM

Re: Touch Pro - Anyone know the max number of flashes before the memory dies?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ibmxx187 (Post 861554)
10,000 is correct
if you flashed one rom a day for about 27 years you will reach the limit
:evil4:
and by that time i think we will have the super Touch HD pro 73

Ahm, I already own the Super Touch HD pro 73! It's awesome!:headbang:

vanish 04-20-2009 04:59 AM

Re: Touch Pro - Anyone know the max number of flashes before the memory dies?
 
what i want 1, where can i get it :P
The touch pro 69 is pretty sexy but not as good i want the new wipe your *** for you feature!!

Sim-X 04-20-2009 08:24 AM

Re: Touch Pro - Anyone know the max number of flashes before the memory dies?
 
I don't even flash that often (cause I'm lazy for setting it back up) and mine phones still die :-( - so far this one is good but I'm waiting for it 2 give out

dave01978 04-20-2009 08:52 AM

Re: Touch Pro - Anyone know the max number of flashes before the memory dies?
 
oh no i did the math on how often i flash mine, and i have over a year, guess i need to stop flashing it hourly,

ok im not that bad, every couple of days i seem to though so i will be good for 50 years :)

schnebs1 04-20-2009 09:20 AM

Re: Touch Pro - Anyone know the max number of flashes before the memory dies?
 
Thanks for all the input, sounds like flashing is not the reason my TP died this last time :)
Now if it will just remain free from all the other ways to fail, I'll be set for awhile.

no2chem 04-20-2009 09:51 AM

Re: Touch Pro - Anyone know the max number of flashes before the memory dies?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ibmxx187 (Post 861554)
10,000 is correct
if you flashed one rom a day for about 27 years you will reach the limit
:evil4:
and by that time i think we will have the super Touch HD pro 73

not completely true,

it turns out that the user filespace (FAT32) lives in flash too, so the lifespan can actually be much shorter if you have something that keeps writing to flash (/my documents), for example, over and over again...

pro_b 04-20-2009 10:47 AM

Re: Touch Pro - Anyone know the max number of flashes before the memory dies?
 
Thanks for that answer No2. I trust that you'd know if anyone really knew.

FabNMun 04-21-2009 12:51 AM

Re: Touch Pro - Anyone know the max number of flashes before the memory dies?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by no2chem (Post 861796)
not completely true,

it turns out that the user filespace (FAT32) lives in flash too, so the lifespan can actually be much shorter if you have something that keeps writing to flash (/my documents), for example, over and over again...

You think maybe using sd cards more for storage would help?

Also since it's not like HDDs where data gets written according better access time, do you think that like if I flashed several roms would they land in the same spot on flash every time? Would those sectors get worn more than the others?

no2chem 04-21-2009 04:49 AM

Re: Touch Pro - Anyone know the max number of flashes before the memory dies?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FabNMun (Post 864249)
You think maybe using sd cards more for storage would help?

Also since it's not like HDDs where data gets written according better access time, do you think that like if I flashed several roms would they land in the same spot on flash every time? Would those sectors get worn more than the others?

I really doubt you have that much to worry about. IIRC the flash memory has some kind of built-in wear leveling and bad block marking, and I think there was a period of time where I flashed my Titan about 50+ times a day with no ill effect.

Matrix 04-21-2009 06:11 AM

Re: Touch Pro - Anyone know the max number of flashes before the memory dies?
 
Just my 2 cents here, I flashed my original TP only twice before it started "leaking data". I've flashed the replacement one about 10 times so far and it's still working fine. We must have had defective units to begin with.

havox22 04-21-2009 06:44 AM

Re: Touch Pro - Anyone know the max number of flashes before the memory dies?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by no2chem (Post 864695)
I really doubt you have that much to worry about. IIRC the flash memory has some kind of built-in wear leveling and bad block marking, and I think there was a period of time where I flashed my Titan about 50+ times a day with no ill effect.

50+ times thats crazy u must have just sat at the cpu all day...thats true commitment

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matrix (Post 864736)
Just my 2 cents here, I flashed my original TP only twice before it started "leaking data". I've flashed the replacement one about 10 times so far and it's still working fine. We must have had defective units to begin with.

whats leaking data??? how would i know if mines is??

RicoRich196 04-21-2009 08:07 AM

Re: Touch Pro - Anyone know the max number of flashes before the memory dies?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by havox22 (Post 864747)
50+ times thats crazy u must have just sat at the cpu all day...thats true commitment


whats leaking data??? how would i know if mines is??

Commitment like no other, No2's ROMs on the Mogul/Titan were king! He came in the clutch before all the MightyMikes and Juggalos and Juggs ect of the Touch Pro world =). Now he's making apps that do things you never thought you'd see (Dynamic clock control). Check his blog out in his sig.

Adrianh85 08-14-2009 04:30 PM

Re: Touch Pro - Anyone know the max number of flashes before the memory dies?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RicoRich196 (Post 864813)
Commitment like no other, No2's ROMs on the Mogul/Titan were king! He came in the clutch before all the MightyMikes and Juggalos and Juggs ect of the Touch Pro world =). Now he's making apps that do things you never thought you'd see (Dynamic clock control). Check his blog out in his sig.

i second that statement

rstoyguy 08-14-2009 04:52 PM

Re: Touch Pro - Anyone know the max number of flashes before the memory dies?
 
Moved to the HTC Touch Pro forum.

Tilde88 08-14-2009 06:13 PM

Re: Touch Pro - Anyone know the max number of flashes before the memory dies?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by schnebs1 (Post 861214)
Just wondering how many flashes the memory can take, as I flash 2-3 times a week, and did have to do a warranty replacement of my last Touch Pro due to memory issues. (It just started leaking data. I would have to hard reset once a day just to maintain a useable phone)

Thanks!

thats like saying how many times can you change the channel on a tv before it dies...

in other words the grammatically incorrect answer is NO:twisted:

flash on flasher:headbang:


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