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x99percent 03-16-2009 02:46 PM

How to hard reset WITHOUT using the stylus, reset button, or the "clear storage" app.
 
WARNING:

Paraphrased from the user guide:
Quote:

If "encrypt files when placed on a storage card" is enabled, back up all files from the microSD card before using Clear Storage, hard reset, or updating the ROM system software. Otherwise, you will no longer be able to access the encrypted files on the microSD card after you hard reset and/or reflash. Use ActiveSync or Windows Mobile Device Center to transfer files between your microSD card and computer. After the reset/reflash procedure, copy those files back to the microSD card.

PREPARE:

1 - With the phone ON and running, hold down the power button.
2 - You should get a message box asking if you really want to turn off the phone. Click "Yes".
3 - At this point, your phone is completely powered down.
3a - If you are unable to get to this point, just yank the battery and reinstall it WITHOUT turning the phone back on.


THE RESET:

4 - Hold down the "Volume Down" and "Center" buttons. Do NOT let go.
5 - Hold down the power button. WAIT.
6 - You should now see the hard reset dialog, "This operation will delete all of your personal data...".
7 - You can now let go of the three buttons.
8 - Press "Volume Up" if you wish to reset, or something else to abort.


Enjoy!

bubbatex 03-16-2009 02:57 PM

Re: How to hard reset WITHOUT using the stylus, reset button, or the "clear storage"
 
It's in the manual.

Darkjedi 03-16-2009 03:02 PM

Re: How to hard reset WITHOUT using the stylus, reset button, or the "clear storage"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bubbatex (Post 775666)
It's in the manual.

Surprisingly a lot of people still can't hard reset their device. There are many posts where people say they can't hard reset the device. I know I had trouble until I manually took out the battery and put it back it and then tried the button combos.

That said I also never read the manual, hahah. I've used 2 different WM devices before this and I figured most of that stuff I already knew.

bubbatex 03-16-2009 03:09 PM

Re: How to hard reset WITHOUT using the stylus, reset button, or the "clear storage"
 
I don't read mine either - until I want to do something specific like a hard reset. anyway - it's a free forum.

x99percent 03-16-2009 03:15 PM

Re: How to hard reset WITHOUT using the stylus, reset button, or the "clear storage"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by darkjedi007 (Post 775675)
Surprisingly a lot of people still can't hard reset their device. There are many posts where people say they can't hard reset the device.

...and this is EXACTLY why I made this post.

I figured that I would make a post using very clear and concise instructions so that anyone who searches for "hard reset" would be able to get the job done quickly and easily, and without resorting to any creative hand contortions that are necessary to reset with the stylus (even though I have no problem with that one, either).

GhettoBSD 03-16-2009 04:08 PM

Re: How to hard reset WITHOUT using the stylus, reset button, or the "clear storage"
 
what page does it say that in the manual?

i MUST have skipped it when i was searching for it. thanks

MojoRisen 03-16-2009 05:38 PM

Re: How to hard reset WITHOUT using the stylus, reset button, or the "clear storage"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GhettoBSD (Post 775795)
what page does it say that in the manual?

i MUST have skipped it when i was searching for it. thanks

Of COURSE I can't find my book when I need it, but I believe it's either page 86 or 88...something like that. :-k

elephant007 03-16-2009 05:41 PM

Re: How to hard reset WITHOUT using the stylus, reset button, or the "clear storage"
 
RTFM
a techies favorite acronym!

I thought that the styli had to be out in order to do this procedure, this is how I hard reset my phone and have only done it with the styli out.

MojoRisen 03-16-2009 05:46 PM

Re: How to hard reset WITHOUT using the stylus, reset button, or the "clear storage"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by elephant007 (Post 776029)
RTFM
a techies favorite acronym!

HAHA! Yes, it is. And the fav question of "Did you reboot yet?"

GhettoBSD 03-16-2009 05:56 PM

Re: How to hard reset WITHOUT using the stylus, reset button, or the "clear storage"
 
oh shoot, i'm Mr RTFM hahaha

But i don't recall having seen how to hard reset with hardware, only software. I will look when i get home. Thanks!

elephant007 03-16-2009 10:15 PM

Re: How to hard reset WITHOUT using the stylus, reset button, or the "clear storage"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MojoRisen (Post 776042)
HAHA! Yes, it is. And the fav question of "Did you reboot yet?"

Better yet I tell the users that call the help desk to power off their computers for 20 seconds (not reboot but start shutdown and leave off for twenty seconds) then if the problem persists call me back....
Oddly, they usually don't call back!

bubbatex 03-16-2009 10:47 PM

Re: How to hard reset WITHOUT using the stylus, reset button, or the "clear storage"
 
Have to say, having done it both ways over the past few days, I bet most people do not hold the keys long enough for the reset message to pop up on the screen. I had to re-do it the first time I tried it using the hard keys method.

BTW - it is page 126 of the hardcopy manual - page 134 of the softcopy PDF.

selders59 03-16-2009 10:56 PM

Re: How to hard reset WITHOUT using the stylus, reset button, or the "clear storage"
 
On my TP to hard reset need to "Hold power button-volume down-center d button-and put the stylus in reset hole" talk about needing some hand coordination. Don't know if this was a joke from HTC or Sprint. But "haha" on them because it can be done.

boredandtattooed 03-17-2009 12:38 AM

Re: How to hard reset WITHOUT using the stylus, reset button, or the "clear storage"
 
you dont need the stylis

GhettoBSD 03-17-2009 11:58 AM

Re: How to hard reset WITHOUT using the stylus, reset button, or the "clear storage"
 
i didn't have a chance to look last night but i will tonight for sure!

And i actually held the buttons down until windows restarted hahahaha!

MojoRisen 03-17-2009 12:22 PM

Re: How to hard reset WITHOUT using the stylus, reset button, or the "clear storage"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by selders59 (Post 776756)
On my TP to hard reset need to "Hold power button-volume down-center d button-and put the stylus in reset hole" talk about needing some hand coordination. Don't know if this was a joke from HTC or Sprint. But "haha" on them because it can be done.

Stylus isn't needed for hard reset. Only time to use the stylus is for a soft reset, or to enter Boot Loader mode (with phone off, Volume Down+Stylus in soft reset hole+then Power button).

GhettoBSD 03-17-2009 12:30 PM

Re: How to hard reset WITHOUT using the stylus, reset button, or the "clear storage"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by x99percent (Post 775641)
PREPARE:

1 - With the phone ON and running, hold down the power button.
2 - You should get a message box asking if you really want to turn off the phone. Click "Yes".
3 - At this point, your phone is completely powered down.
3a - If you are unable to get to this point, just yank the battery and reinstall it WITHOUT turning the phone back on.


THE RESET:

4 - Hold down the "Volume Down" and "Center" buttons. Do NOT let go.
5 - Hold down the power button. WAIT.
6 - You should now see the hard reset dialog, "This operation will delete all of your personal data...".
7 - You can now let go of the three buttons.
8 - Press "Volume Up" if you wish to reset, or something else to abort.

Enjoy!

We have a winner! Well, this worked on my 2nd tp. I will try it on my 1st TP when i have to hard reset it sometime...

thanks!

x99percent 03-18-2009 01:07 PM

Re: How to hard reset WITHOUT using the stylus, reset button, or the "clear storage"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MojoRisen (Post 777760)
Only time to use the stylus is for a soft reset,

Soft resetting with the stylus is the MAIN reason that people will post about how their "reg edits aren't sticking", or why you'll see how-to writeups where they recommend waiting 1-2 minutes before resetting. Using the reset button to reset doesn't guarantee that everything in the write buffers is flushed.

If you use a soft reset application, it's a non-issue.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MojoRisen (Post 777760)
or to enter Boot Loader mode (with phone off, Volume Down+Stylus in soft reset hole+then Power button).

I can enter the bootloader without using the stylus. ;)

Follow the same instructions as above, but without holding the center button.

cmdauria 03-18-2009 02:21 PM

Re: How to hard reset WITHOUT using the stylus, reset button, or the "clear storage"
 
It kind of baffles me that there is still confusion on this. But you are probably right, people are not holding the buttons down long enough for the hard reset to happen.

gnatsstang 03-18-2009 04:36 PM

Re: How to hard reset WITHOUT using the stylus, reset button, or the "clear storage"
 
and here i thought he was gonna say "THROW IT ON THE GROUND AND STOMP LIKE A FIVE YEAR-OLD."

puff 03-20-2009 01:33 PM

Re: How to hard reset WITHOUT using the stylus, reset button, or the "clear storage"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GhettoBSD (Post 775795)
what page does it say that in the manual?

i MUST have skipped it when i was searching for it. thanks

page 126 :D in the Sprint User Guide

puff 03-20-2009 01:36 PM

Re: How to hard reset WITHOUT using the stylus, reset button, or the "clear storage"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by x99percent (Post 775641)
PREPARE:

from user guide:
If Encrypt files when placed on a storage card is enabled, back up all files from the microSD card before
using Clear Storage, hard reset, or updating the ROM system software. Otherwise you will no longer be
able to access the encrypted files on the microSD card. Use ActiveSync or Windows Mobile Device Center
to transfer files between your microSD card and computer. After the procedure, copy those files back to
the microSD card.


1 - With the phone ON and running, hold down the power button.
2 - You should get a message box asking if you really want to turn off the phone. Click "Yes".
3 - At this point, your phone is completely powered down.
3a - If you are unable to get to this point, just yank the battery and reinstall it WITHOUT turning the phone back on.


THE RESET:

4 - Hold down the "Volume Down" and "Center" buttons. Do NOT let go.
5 - Hold down the power button. WAIT.
6 - You should now see the hard reset dialog, "This operation will delete all of your personal data...".
7 - You can now let go of the three buttons.
8 - Press "Volume Up" if you wish to reset, or something else to abort.

Enjoy!

Just a suggestion.... :)

GhettoBSD 03-20-2009 02:34 PM

Re: How to hard reset WITHOUT using the stylus, reset button, or the "clear storage"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by puff (Post 785613)
page 126 :D in the Sprint User Guide

puff, you know i don't read, if i can't figure it out on my own then it's too hard! =D>

x99percent 03-20-2009 03:07 PM

Re: How to hard reset WITHOUT using the stylus, reset button, or the "clear storage"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by puff (Post 785620)
Just a suggestion.... :)

Updated first post. :)

puff 03-20-2009 11:59 PM

Re: How to hard reset WITHOUT using the stylus, reset button, or the "clear storage"
 
good lookin out x99percent ;-)
Quote:

Originally Posted by GhettoBSD (Post 785810)
puff, you know i don't read, if i can't figure it out on my own then it's too hard! =D>

hehe, you asked a question... i merely provided the answer :D

GhettoBSD 03-21-2009 03:05 AM

Re: How to hard reset WITHOUT using the stylus, reset button, or the "clear storage"
 
haha no really, i don't really read lol i kinda surprise myself when i realize how much i know :P

That's how i determine if a computer program was well written; if i can figure it out + if not - lol

selders59 03-21-2009 03:46 AM

Re: How to hard reset WITHOUT using the stylus, reset button, or the "clear storage"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by puff (Post 785613)
page 126 :D in the Sprint User Guide

:violent2:This shows how much the "Sprint Techs" read the manual too. Because they told me to:
1) Hold down power button and volume down button.
2) Hold down center button and insert stylus into reset hole.
I guess the Sprint guys should read the manual also.

jetjock_fl 03-21-2009 08:45 PM

Re: How to hard reset WITHOUT using the stylus, reset button, or the "clear storage"
 
I'm 5 states away from my manual....THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS

puff 03-21-2009 10:37 PM

Re: How to hard reset WITHOUT using the stylus, reset button, or the "clear storage"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GhettoBSD (Post 787106)
haha no really, i don't really read lol i kinda surprise myself when i realize how much i know :P

That's how i determine if a computer program was well written; if i can figure it out + if not - lol

its like having deja vu and amnesia all at the same time...
you know i keep thinking i forgot this before... :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by selders59 (Post 787141)
:violent2:This shows how much the "Sprint Techs" read the manual too. Because they told me to:
1) Hold down power button and volume down button.
2) Hold down center button and insert stylus into reset hole.
I guess the Sprint guys should read the manual also.

That procedure (as complicated /difficult as it may be) should also invoke a hard reset.
From what I've seen, it appears the 'trigger' is when those 3 keys (power + vol down+ circle)are held during the boot up
Either method should invoke the hard reset as long as the 3 keys are held down during boot up :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetjock_fl (Post 788259)
I'm 5 states away from my manual....THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS

hehe, if u really want you can access it online here :evil4:

fat boy 03-22-2009 12:10 AM

Re: How to hard reset WITHOUT using the stylus, reset button, or the "clear storage"
 
thanks to the OP for this, i don't need it now but who knows


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