iGuidance 2009 -- can only be used on memory card it is shipped on
 

I was looking to upgrade my iGuidance 4.x to the most current release (2009). Unfortunately, after contacting their technical support, I have learned that they are only providing the software via microSD. No big deal except I don't want to utilize anything other than Sandisk and am told that the software is locked onto their card. Anyone know of a way around this so I can pull the software off the card and put it onto a larger card?

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i think that would constitute some sort of warez type activity... which is probably banned on this forum. if there's a way around it, i'm sure its already been done somewhere.

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i think thats stupid... do you have to buy the card too along with their software?

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if ur paying for it and not distributing it. IMO, it wouldn't constitute warez. nonetheless, i'm not sure how, i use tomtom.

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The 2GB and 4GB cards have no additional charge. The 8GB charge is an extra $10. I'm just not happy that I have to use their card. I prefer sandisk and don't know what kind of generic garbage they'll be using. Really disappointing as I have been using iGuidance for about 3 years and have really liked it. Guess it is time to find a new GPS software...

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May I recommend Nav-N-Go iGo8. It blows iGuidance out of the water. I have only used on CarPC, not PPC, but I'm sure it is the same. The 3D Buildings are totally awesome!

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I used to like iGo8, then I demoed and immediately switched to Garmin.

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you are paying for the software license, and the license includes whatever stipulations they have decided on. if they decide that you must use that specific card, then you must use that specific card, otherwise you are technically breaching the license agreement, and possibly breaking the law as well.

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Welp safe to say im not upgrading to 2009. Ill stick with v4 until some other program comes out with TTS.

I use a 16gb micro sd and im not carrying another card just for the gps software.

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Hmmm... I once bought a used treo that came with TomTom preinstalled on a tomtom card. I put it on a bigger card and it worked fine. If the card is readable, I don't see why you can't copy it.

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I'd imagine that it's not a run of the mill microsd card.. probably some sort of unique hardware identifier as a copy protection measure.

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Which build of iGo 8 do you have working on your TP. I have iGO 8 v8.3.2.64873 and it goes to start on the TP and I get the splash screen, starts to load and when it goes to loading the API it minimizes on the today screen and the install goes no further.

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It wasn't it didn't have as many pins as a normal card but you can make an image of the card I'm sure

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LOL some of you people get a little too worked up over what you consider warez. You talk about licensing and how you arent supposed to modify anything. Take a look around. Thats most of what this and xda forums are about. Modifying preexisting software (tf3d, windows...) as well as modifying the hardware (dying the back cover). Why would modifying purchased software be any different? Why not just leave all phones stock and not have any discussion about modifying anything? I think many of you need to relax.

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i wouldnt go that far or else 99% of us here are breaking the law as is- custom ROMs. Its the same concept, youre using fragmented pieces of MS code not meant for your device to be ripped like they are. i see no problem if you own the license to not use their card.

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Because each card has an unique ID number & the software can be locked to that ID # (which cannot be changed)

Garmin does the same thing with GarminXT software, it comes on a 4 gig card & if you clone it to say an 8 gig card it will not work.

I use GarminXT from my 16 gig Sandisk card, but I had to use a crack to do it even though I legally purchased the software from Amazon..........

~John

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A licensing agreement is not the law, there may be copyright violations but in no way would this constitute as something illegal. If you are going to argue that, wouldn't the custom ROMS that are distributed on this site constitute as something illegal and voiding our agreement with Sprint, ATT, Verizon, or Alltel? The act of moving the content over is the same as moving content in or out of the custom ROM, don't turn this into a battle over whether this should be considered warez or not, because he is LEGALLY buying the software, not downloading it and distributing it.

I believe you can copy the contents over through a method similar to Norton Ghost, make an exact data image of the contents and using another program, copy the contents over, it should work. I'm not too sure though, you would have to try it to see, considering I see no way for them to use other formats other than NTFS, FAT16 or FAT32. So give that a try.

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u8myfood, sprinttouch, henbone are communicating exactly what i meant. i do think there at least wouldn't be a prollem helpin him out @ least via this site, like there are w/ other things such as obtaining illegal maps & whatnot.

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that doesn't work, I've tried it.

Ghosting an image doesn't change the unique card ID, the ONLY thing I have found that works (with Garmin anyway) is copying the contents to the new card & then cracking the program so it will match up with the ID of the new card.

This annoys me to no end by the way having to "crack" a program that I legally purchased...........

~John

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i'm not saying i'm against finding a way around it, i'm just saying that forums have gotten in trouble for providing information to "get around" certain things. does anyone remember the crap that happened with howards forums when they were releasing the url links to the sprint tv channels? and all they were doing was allowing you to use another player to watch them.

i have no morals when it comes to software, i'm just saying that little things can turn into a sh*t storm for what appears like no good reason.

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I was for sure planning on upgrading to iGuidance 2009 until I learned of the memory card lock. Instead, I'm sticking with v3. It has annoyances, but it basically works, and swapping cards is far more annoying than the annoyances of v3. So a lost sale for me, unless I find a more direct workaround.

The memory card lock prevents me from upgrading to a 16GB card. I don't know what speed their 8GB card is. I would guess it prevents me from using Windows Mobile encryption on the card, which I can easily see myself starting to do as I use my PPC for more and more important things and if I set up remote wipe.

How ironic--the pirates get a better product. I hope, if and when cracks inevitably become available, that iNav lifts the memory card lock for the users of the genuine product, as it no longer would serve any purpose. (I am not trying to discuss any cracks if they exist, and have no information about them. Please do not send me information on cracks--I am not interested and it's against forum rules.)

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Hang on a moment. You are still on version 3 of the software. Version 4 of Iguidance for Windows Mobile adds newer maps, Text to Speech (very accurate) and still maintains the quality routing that Iguidance is known for. Also version 4 for WM is not locked in any way, i.e. you can transfer it from one microsd card to another. I keep the US/Canada 1.2 GB map on a microsd card along with the Cab installer and can be up an running with Iguidance 4 in a matter of minutes with a ROM update.

I have used Iguidance since version 2, buy each copy as an upgrade to the last. I did pick up Iguidance 2009 on an 8GB microsd card and have liked the interface speed/POI changes/ and additional map data. I will be looking out for a means to transfer iguidance 2009 to the 16gb Microsd card I bought recently. I am sure someone with figure out a bypass of the crappy DRM that will damage sales and hinder legal owners but be of no consequence to those that never intended on paying for it.

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iGo8 did not work properly on the Touch Pro. Seems to hang on boot for some reason or another. Also have you compared routing head to head with Iguidance. I have used Tom Tom, Destinator, Pharos, Co-Pilot and none of them provided the level of voice prompts that iguidance does, i.e. with all the other software you have to have the screen in view and need to refer to it constantly for guidance, whereas since Iguidance 4 looking at the screen is optional, as the vocal guidance is enough to direct you in unfamiliar regions.

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Hey nmhusa, do you still need to use gpsgate with iguidance 2009 or no?

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Noob question but how does iGuidance 2009 or even v4 compare to TomTom 7?

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I have been using GPSgate. I tried it without and it did not seem laggy using COM4. Switched back to GPSgate (force of habit from my Mogul days) and forgot to switch back.

BTW I am installing iGuidance 2009 on a 16GB microsd card that I bought for that purpose. As usual the DRM on the retail upgrade that I bought will hurt legitimate users only as someone byp***** it within weeks of the software release.

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I have compared each version of iGuidance with the available versions at the time of TOMTOM. Last version checked was TOMTOM 6. Consistent gripes that I have had with TOMTOM have been....

Lack or minimal street names in 3D mode
Poor voice prompts (delayed or too few, resulting in a constant need to check the screen to see where the next turn is)
On TOMTOM 6 there was no Text to Speech that I could find.
Destination side of street was never reported (i.e. you have reached your destination on the right or left)
Routing left alot to be desired
Maps for the US were always out of date compared to iGuidance


iGuidance has excellent voice prompts, TTS is perfect, no need to stare at the screen even in unfamiliar regions to tell where to turn, clear street names even on a 3D map, better routing etc etc etc.

Even purchased a standalone TOMTOM and it had all the same issues as the PPC versions.

Re: iGuidance 2009 -- can only be used on memory card it is shipped on
 

Fixed now. Can be installed on any sized microsd card. Just google for the fix or ask a nice person to help you if you are a google novice.

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Just loaded IGuidance 4 to my new touch pro.....it all looked good in the living room, but when I got on the road....it lags .... a lot....I can touch the screen and it catches up...but it really isn't functional....I connected my bluetooth GPS at a stop and it worked fine...(did not shut the program down) I switched back and forth and the onboard GPS lags and the bluetooth was smooth. Has anyone experienced this??? Can the default com port be changed for the onboard GPS??? Is there a hack??? Is this a bad gps on this phone??? Any help would be appreciated....I was considering IG 2009 is anyone using this with the onboard GPS???

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So based on all the available GPS software, which would you guys recommend?


GarminXT
iGuidance
iGo
TomTom

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For those of you who are trying to get iGo8 to work on the Touch Pro, you need to add the following to SYS.TXT:

[device]
sdcard_dsk_num=7

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I give up, I've searched with google but must be using the wrong key words, I own the program, but I'm not happy being restricted to the card it came on. Any clue as to the url that has the answer I would appreciate. Thanks

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Can you point me in the right direction? I will upgrade from 4 to 2009 if I know this can be done. Thanks.

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Good thing, because iGuidance 2009 may be the best option after all. I tried TeleNav ("Sprint Navigation"). The live traffic feature was nice (though I didn't get a chance to see how well it worked under different conditions). I might have tolerated TeleNav despite its constant covering the map for several seconds with useless status information such as "downloading route", huge, full-screen prompts that ask you what street you are on if the GPS isn't sure (hello?? I'm driving? pick the nearest one automatically!), or the search for POI along route which doesn't work at all (I enter a name, and the search results are basically random and have none of the words in my search, even though I know that place exists multiple times within a mile or two of my route).

But at some points, it just declares (paraphrasing, not exact error message) "You have deviated from the route, now ending route session."

Excuse me? What made it decide that I wanted to exit? The whole point of using a GPS, over printed directions, is that you can deviate at your freedom and as soon as you need its help, you just start following it again. Maybe I want to take a detour and not program it in. In my case, I was in poor GPS reception because I was downtown around skyscrapers, and it kept jumping around, and I was fully attempting to follow its route!

That reminds me of when TeleNav first launched on Nextel, the pay-as-you-go billing option was pay-per-route, rather than pay-per-day. You were billed for an additional route if you deviated from the instructions merely three times.

They just don't get it.

Will be unsubscribing from this before the first month is up. Oh well, back to iGuidance. May as well buy the 2009 upgrade. No live traffic, but at least stability and no network requirement. And hopefully will get around the SD card lock.

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so it wouldn't be portable like a license for Windows XP?