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jdignazio 04-18-2009 11:29 AM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by no2chem (Post 856764)
I doubt they'll be able to help you. Anyway - I dabbled a little again into why its not working. You can see whatever research I've done here

http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/pos...-Research.aspx

Maybe someone else can answer some of these questions from XDA.
Over my head!

jdignazio, that is a very good thread gave me a lot useful information.
I guess people in that thread have tried almost all possible ways.
I feel very sad for that.


In my FMRadio reverse engineering work I have two puzzles: what is the first parameter in the FM_Create function? How to control volume of the device/why FM_SetVolume doesn't work?

they are may related may not.

I guess TP FM radio has special mixer/audio line control. whatever I set volume, the system override it. I am looking for the latest version of FMRadio.exe and dlls. If you find those files in a OEM package (not in ROM), maybe works.

Maybe in CDMA TP the mixer disabled FM radio line. Check AudioPara3.csv file it has a couple of line with "FM". I guess it is related to initialize audio mixer for FM radio.
I don't have CDMA TP so I can't provide further advice.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...497977&page=16

no2chem 04-19-2009 01:38 AM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jdignazio (Post 857487)
Maybe someone else can answer some of these questions from XDA.
Over my head!

jdignazio, that is a very good thread gave me a lot useful information.
I guess people in that thread have tried almost all possible ways.
I feel very sad for that.


In my FMRadio reverse engineering work I have two puzzles: what is the first parameter in the FM_Create function? How to control volume of the device/why FM_SetVolume doesn't work?

they are may related may not.

I guess TP FM radio has special mixer/audio line control. whatever I set volume, the system override it. I am looking for the latest version of FMRadio.exe and dlls. If you find those files in a OEM package (not in ROM), maybe works.

Maybe in CDMA TP the mixer disabled FM radio line. Check AudioPara3.csv file it has a couple of line with "FM". I guess it is related to initialize audio mixer for FM radio.
I don't have CDMA TP so I can't provide further advice.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...497977&page=16

no, the problem isn't the PCM connection, it connects fine. The problem is the BRF6350 not entering FM mode.

http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/pos...-FM-Radio.aspx

a little more research shows that for some reason its 0ing the init script on the TP for some stupid reason. I'd like to know why...

no2chem 04-19-2009 02:04 AM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thacounty (Post 859079)
No2 you are the man. It is always good to see you showing us what you are doing and I am sure I speak for everyone when I say we are happy to see you back on this subject! Can it happen bro?

I really want to say theres no hardware reason for us not being able to have FM radio, but I guess I can't be absolutely certain; all I can say is that it seems there are some unresolved software issue...

jmy72 06-02-2009 03:35 PM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
Okay, well I finally got bored enough to do it. I got curious with this whole FM Radio thing, seeings how the Original Touch Pro was listed with the Specs that it had Built in FM Radio with RDS. However I also noticed that on the american versions, Their specs did not have a radio listed.

Well I got a wild hair up my ***, and decided to grab my tools and take apart my touch Pro, for a side by side comparison with my Touch Diamond. and yep. Sure enough, the Chipset is in the diamond for the FM Radio, but on the touch pro, its Empty. So that is why no matter how we try to change the dll files or registry edits or manual installs of the FM Radio Cab, we will never get it to work. With out the Tuner chip, all the programming in the world is not going to make it work. Its okay, I have a stereo, I guess I dont need one on my phone.

BigDiesel07 06-02-2009 03:42 PM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
Jmy.. Courageous 'Geeker you are.. Please post pictures of side-by-side for comparisons of each.. What model was the Diamond and Touch Pro? Sprint, At&T?

jmy72 06-02-2009 04:10 PM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
Diamond is a sprint diamond, and Touch Pro is a US Cellular Touch Pro and the pics will be later, cuz I just put em back together and I gotta get dinner done and crap. But when I get a free hour, I will rip em apart again.

razorloves 07-25-2009 07:32 AM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slypher (Post 1058945)
Where is this ROM?

-s

on the htc website
http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownloa...at=2&dl_id=553

probuild521 08-01-2009 02:31 AM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
sorry i dont feel like reading through 87 pages, has a way to use the fm been found?

puff 08-01-2009 02:41 AM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by probuild521 (Post 1074640)
sorry i dont feel like reading through 87 pages, has a way to use the fm been found?

no, not yet...

puff 08-01-2009 04:03 AM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by probuild521 (Post 1074640)
sorry i dont feel like reading through 87 pages, has a way to use the fm been found?

i've also cleaned this thread, so its no longer 87 pages :D

yourborfrombk 08-01-2009 04:31 AM

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yea i have a diamond an the pro both for sprint an the radio is just perfect on the diamond, dont be surprised when these part 2's come around they might be missing moreee then you think....with the economy :headbang::headbang::headbang::headbang::protest:

BigDiesel07 08-01-2009 01:47 PM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by puff (Post 1074713)
i've also cleaned this thread, so its no longer 87 pages :D

Thanks Puff... Archived it?

puff 08-01-2009 01:51 PM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDiesel07 (Post 1075194)
Thanks Puff... Archived it?

Yup, so it shouldn't affect your post count/thanks count ;-)

boredandtattooed 08-01-2009 02:00 PM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
like En Vogue said back in the day.. "Never gonna get it, never gonna get it, never gonna get it" LOL

puff 08-01-2009 02:11 PM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by boredandtattooed (Post 1075234)
like En Vogue said back in the day.. "Never gonna get it, never gonna get it, never gonna get it" LOL

:sign5:

slypher 08-02-2009 10:29 AM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by razorloves (Post 1058957)

Is there anyone on here with a Fuze? Does this ROM let you listen to FM radio?

-s

puff 08-02-2009 10:32 AM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slypher (Post 1076729)
Is there anyone on here with a Fuze? Does this ROM let you listen to FM radio?

-s

From what i remember archiving, the fuze does has FM... still no luck with the touchpro though

hentai_jeff 09-10-2009 08:24 PM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
anyone still looking into this?

bigirb2002 09-10-2009 10:07 PM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
cant be done

whunderboy 11-28-2009 11:10 PM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
Ok guys. I have once again gained enough steam to, yet again, dig into my Sprint Touch Pro.

BTW: I do know this is old news, but some of us are too poor to get the TP2 yet. Until I get the funds to get a TP2, I'll keep cracking away at the TP.

After replacing the drivers with the old versions (from this site) I installed the cab file for the radio (also, on this site). What did I get... nada. Except, it was operating the HW.

I know, I know. Old news. Before flaming, please hear me out.

With the above in mind, I cracked it open and put a conductive paste across each "missing" passive joint. For example, If a resistor was suppose to be here in the "radio enabled" version, and removed on the current version, the paste will create a loose connection that should enable the radio. Once again, I did this across ALL missing components without discrimination.

My results? Well I was able to tune to three local stations (read stations less than a quarter mile away), but still no audio. I did put the output of the phone into a very large amp and heard something promising. I heard the internal amp engage for about ten seconds whenever I tuned, muted, or changed volume. When it was engaged I could just barely make out music and voices. As a reminder, that was through a very large amp!

Well folks, I have stretched my little Touch Pro just about as far as I dare. If anyone has any suggestions, questions, or comments; I'll be glad to hear them!

Daniel

MordyT 11-29-2009 01:59 AM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by whunderboy (Post 1370119)
Ok guys. I have once again gained enough steam to, yet again, dig into my Sprint Touch Pro.

BTW: I do know this is old news, but some of us are too poor to get the TP2 yet. Until I get the funds to get a TP2, I'll keep cracking away at the TP.

After replacing the drivers with the old versions (from this site) I installed the cab file for the radio (also, on this site). What did I get... nada. Except, it was operating the HW.

I know, I know. Old news. Before flaming, please hear me out.

With the above in mind, I cracked it open and put a conductive paste across each "missing" passive joint. For example, If a resistor was suppose to be here in the "radio enabled" version, and removed on the current version, the paste will create a loose connection that should enable the radio. Once again, I did this across ALL missing components without discrimination.

My results? Well I was able to tune to three local stations (read stations less than a quarter mile away), but still no audio. I did put the output of the phone into a very large amp and heard something promising. I heard the internal amp engage for about ten seconds whenever I tuned, muted, or changed volume. When it was engaged I could just barely make out music and voices. As a reminder, that was through a very large amp!

Well folks, I have stretched my little Touch Pro just about as far as I dare. If anyone has any suggestions, questions, or comments; I'll be glad to hear them!

Daniel

It seems like progress....
So, it appears to be disabled in the hardware
Can be enabled with some work but audio is weak - but works...
Maybe you need other drivers to up the volume?

psiphi 12-03-2009 06:51 PM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
Could be as simple as the conductive paste wasn't passing the expected votage... Sounds like you need to take a meter those points on a phone whose radio is confirmed to be working and compair to yours...

DrUnKeN_TiGeR 12-03-2009 07:27 PM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
sounds like progress bro props to putting the paste on all the open connections could have fried that thing

tom.etc 12-04-2009 12:27 AM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by whunderboy (Post 1370119)
Ok guys. I have once again gained enough steam to, yet again, dig into my Sprint Touch Pro.

BTW: I do know this is old news, but some of us are too poor to get the TP2 yet. Until I get the funds to get a TP2, I'll keep cracking away at the TP.

After replacing the drivers with the old versions (from this site) I installed the cab file for the radio (also, on this site). What did I get... nada. Except, it was operating the HW.

I know, I know. Old news. Before flaming, please hear me out.

With the above in mind, I cracked it open and put a conductive paste across each "missing" passive joint. For example, If a resistor was suppose to be here in the "radio enabled" version, and removed on the current version, the paste will create a loose connection that should enable the radio. Once again, I did this across ALL missing components without discrimination.

My results? Well I was able to tune to three local stations (read stations less than a quarter mile away), but still no audio. I did put the output of the phone into a very large amp and heard something promising. I heard the internal amp engage for about ten seconds whenever I tuned, muted, or changed volume. When it was engaged I could just barely make out music and voices. As a reminder, that was through a very large amp!

Well folks, I have stretched my little Touch Pro just about as far as I dare. If anyone has any suggestions, questions, or comments; I'll be glad to hear them!

Daniel


that's ballsy! i admire your sand. got schematics of the points you conected? i have some electroics experience and i might be willing to go fight club on my TP with a DMM

whunderboy 12-14-2009 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tom.etc (Post 1384917)
that's ballsy! i admire your sand. got schematics of the points you conected? i have some electroics experience and i might be willing to go fight club on my TP with a DMM

Well here you go! I can dig down into these circuit boards no prob as long as I know the circuit. It never ceases to amaze me on how you guys can reverse engineer these things.

PS. Phone is still running just as strong as before I did the experiment. GL!

[sammich] 12-16-2009 03:17 AM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by whunderboy (Post 1413809)
Well here you go! I can dig down into these circuit boards no prob as long as I know the circuit. It never ceases to amaze me on how you guys can reverse engineer these things.

PS. Phone is still running just as strong as before I did the experiment. GL!

Impressive work, to say the least. Thanks for contributing and trying this out on your own phone!

jkuczera 01-12-2010 02:15 AM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
Do we have a picture to compare from a cdma diamond?

abello00 03-22-2010 01:52 AM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
Looks like the HTC engineers won this round. Even if the FM chip is in there (which it obviously is), the fact that they left out some of the resistors and left it an open circuit really kills any chance of us reverse engineering this stuff. Even if I go ahead and solder the right resistors onto the chip successfully, how many other people have access to soldering irons and have any idea on how to properly solder resistors onto a microchip. The amount of time, effort and risk of doing this isn't worth the benefit. You may have won this round HTC... but we will win the war :-). BTW I just upgraded my TP2 with Win 6.5 (the official release from HTC/Sprint)... 2 words... Love It :-D

MordyT 03-22-2010 02:57 AM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
you do know this is the tp1 forum...

[sammich] 03-22-2010 03:06 AM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MordyT (Post 1649085)
you do know this is the tp1 forum...

Either way, we're screwed out of a FM radio! :D

saam101 04-09-2010 02:16 PM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
thanks

piratepete8866 04-26-2010 02:36 AM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
i have a TP2 and the Radio works just fine. a little low volume, but nonetheless works fine.

MordyT 04-26-2010 03:48 AM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by piratepete8866 (Post 1719501)
i have a TP2 and the Radio works just fine. a little low volume, but nonetheless works fine.

uh huh, sure....

razorloves 04-26-2010 04:18 AM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by piratepete8866 (Post 1719501)
i have a TP2 and the Radio works just fine. a little low volume, but nonetheless works fine.

yea...we know the FM Radio works fine in the gsm tp2. this thread is about the cdma tp :scratch:

thacounty 04-26-2010 11:50 PM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
The one in my TP started working after I bought a walkman with fm radio. I just taped the tp to the walkman and it is working fine! I also got a connector to a big boombox I can carry on my shoulder and walk around like people did in the 90's. Too bad D batteries are hard to find... Oh well I'll keep rocking it until someone puts am radio on the TP then I'm all over that like a duck on a june bug.

miga-ainu 05-05-2010 06:02 PM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thacounty (Post 1721338)
The one in my TP started working after I bought a walkman with fm radio. I just taped the tp to the walkman and it is working fine! I also got a connector to a big boombox I can carry on my shoulder and walk around like people did in the 90's. Too bad D batteries are hard to find... Oh well I'll keep rocking it until someone puts am radio on the TP then I'm all over that like a duck on a june bug.

Hahah! That's one way to get it to work.

But, I'm guessing that there's really no way that we'll be able to hear FM Radio on our CDMA phones?

thacounty 05-05-2010 11:42 PM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by miga-ainu (Post 1736814)
Hahah! That's one way to get it to work.

But, I'm guessing that there's really no way that we'll be able to hear FM Radio on our CDMA phones?

YES There is!! Get a diamond or the new EVO! Diamond has a custom rom with it working and the EVO comes with it out of box.

Knightbird68 07-03-2010 05:38 PM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
OK, I know its an old thread, but bear with me...

I bought a remaned Sprint TP1. Unlocked it to work on Boost Mobile. Everything (except Sprint TV (but who cares) works great, INCLUDING THE FM RADIO. So on mine it is NOT a hardware issue.

However, I wanted something faster, without TF3D so I could use my SPB Menu. Of course I downloaded the wonderful Calkulins v4.2 WWE ROM (insert KUDOS here).

Now everything is faster, more responsive, but the FM radio no longer works. I have tried every suggestion on these pages. But the FM application wont find anything. I copied the driver files to \Windows\System32 because i cannot find an OEMDRIVERS directory, and wasn't sure where to create it.

Any ideas?

bobram 07-04-2010 08:53 AM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
FM radio working on CDMA TP? That must be a first.

What rom was it running before you flashed?

thacounty 07-05-2010 09:02 PM

Re: FM Radio Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Knightbird68 (Post 1850554)
OK, I know its an old thread, but bear with me...

I bought a remaned Sprint TP1. Unlocked it to work on Boost Mobile. Everything (except Sprint TV (but who cares) works great, INCLUDING THE FM RADIO. So on mine it is NOT a hardware issue.

However, I wanted something faster, without TF3D so I could use my SPB Menu. Of course I downloaded the wonderful Calkulins v4.2 WWE ROM (insert KUDOS here).

Now everything is faster, more responsive, but the FM radio no longer works. I have tried every suggestion on these pages. But the FM application wont find anything. I copied the driver files to \Windows\System32 because i cannot find an OEMDRIVERS directory, and wasn't sure where to create it.

Any ideas?

Post a video showing it working.


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