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gianthobbit 12-17-2008 05:11 PM

sound quality terrible if charing
 
When I plug in my adapter to 3.5 audio and the audio quality is fine. If i plug in my charger (car charger is only time i have tried this) its sounds really bad. If i turn the audio off the white noise/static sound is directly in proportion to my RPMs of my vehicle, sounds kind of cool actually but what gives, anyone else with similar problems?

BigDiesel07 12-17-2008 09:10 PM

Re: sound quality terrible if charing
 
haha.. That is weird.. Never had that before.. What do you drive? I guess the vibrations from the engine are rattling the charger, therefore rattling the speaker in your phone.. Harmonic vibration!

zachofalltrades 12-18-2008 09:39 AM

Re: sound quality terrible if charing
 
The alternator that keeps your car's electrical system charged up produces RF interference. Car radios need to be shielded against this, and it is especially noticeable on AM radio bands. Windshield wiper motors can also produce interesting RF interference.

I'm very curious to know if anyone else has experienced this -- I have an 80's era set of big Pioneer headphones (SE-205) plugged into a 3.5 adapter, plugged into the 3 way adapter that came in the box with my Sprint Touch Pro. I also have connected a standard Motorola micro USB charger (AC) plugged in to the wall. I listen to downloaded podcasts, not high quality audio -- I have not been bothered by any noise.

Darkness231 12-18-2008 10:19 AM

Re: sound quality terrible if charing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gianthobbit (Post 584641)
When I plug in my adapter to 3.5 audio and the audio quality is fine. If i plug in my charger (car charger is only time i have tried this) its sounds really bad. If i turn the audio off the white noise/static sound is directly in proportion to my RPMs of my vehicle, sounds kind of cool actually but what gives, anyone else with similar problems?

I have the same issue. I am using an adapter that has a charger and 3.5mm jack on it. Changing the grounding point for my charger helped significantly, but I still has the same issue. I need to try a ground loop isolator, but I'm to lazy to build/buy one. Using the same set up in my wife's truck I do not have the issue.

eppopipe 12-18-2008 10:26 AM

Re: sound quality terrible if charing
 
you just have a simple ground loop
it happens.
to get around it stop by walmart and pick up a ground loop isolator in the car audio section.
good luck!

Mbai2 12-18-2008 10:29 AM

Re: sound quality terrible if charing
 
It's engine whine from the alternator of the car. It happens when audio equipment isn't grounded correctly. It's a common occurance when installing aftermarket amps. It's more likely a grounding problem with the car's cigarette lighter than a problem with the internal wiring of the phone. Do you still hear a noise when you plug the phone into a wall outlet? If not, you might be able to make it better by grounding it closer to the car battery.

gianthobbit 12-18-2008 11:12 AM

Re: sound quality terrible if charing
 
is this something you have to install under the hood of the car or just an adapter like this http://www.crutchfield.com/p_127SNI1...d+loop&tp=2653

I dont know if something like that would help because the connection that is causing the problem is adapter not the audio.

gianthobbit 12-19-2008 03:09 PM

Re: sound quality terrible if charing
 
I am at a lose of idea on how to fix this?

Darkness231 12-19-2008 03:27 PM

Re: sound quality terrible if charing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gianthobbit (Post 585989)
is this something you have to install under the hood of the car or just an adapter like this http://www.crutchfield.com/p_127SNI1...d+loop&tp=2653

I dont know if something like that would help because the connection that is causing the problem is adapter not the audio.

Yes that should work.
or
http://shop4.frys.com/product/527623...H:MAIN_RSLT_PG
http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2062214

depending on your configuration.

gianthobbit 12-19-2008 03:40 PM

Re: sound quality terrible if charing
 
Your saying yes to the under the hood or yes to an adapter.

How do you install the device you mentioned in your links?

yotoad 12-19-2008 05:20 PM

Re: sound quality terrible if charing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gianthobbit (Post 584641)
When I plug in my adapter to 3.5 audio and the audio quality is fine. If i plug in my charger (car charger is only time i have tried this) its sounds really bad. If i turn the audio off the white noise/static sound is directly in proportion to my RPMs of my vehicle, sounds kind of cool actually but what gives, anyone else with similar problems?

I have the same issue -- i have an iPod integration kit for my car and it also has a 3.5 aux in, which i use for the TP -- does anyone know of a ground loop isolator you might be able to use on a 3.5 input as opposed to a RCA?

yotoad 12-19-2008 05:27 PM

Re: sound quality terrible if charing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yotoad (Post 588719)
I have the same issue -- i have an iPod integration kit for my car and it also has a 3.5 aux in, which i use for the TP -- does anyone know of a ground loop isolator you might be able to use on a 3.5 input as opposed to a RCA?

nevermind!!!!

Darkness231 12-23-2008 01:02 PM

Re: sound quality terrible if charing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gianthobbit (Post 588551)
Your saying yes to the under the hood or yes to an adapter.

How do you install the device you mentioned in your links?

The gound loop isolator goes between your source device (phone) and the amplifier (head unit or amp). It is a small adapter. You can see in the folowing pictures that mine is connected between my phone and my head unit. I need to take mine out and put it in the dash. I finally went and bought one this weekend. Eliminated 99.9 percent of the noise that I was hearing. Well worth the $15. One other thing that was causing me issues was my graphic equalizer was on and that made the audio sound horrible (its labeled audio booster in the program files)


http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...h/CIMG3159.jpg



http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...h/CIMG3161.jpg

mdodge 12-23-2008 01:08 PM

Re: sound quality terrible if charing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkness231 (Post 595645)
The gound loop isolator goes between your source device (phone) and the amplifier (head unit or amp). It is a small adapter. You can see in the folowing pictures that mine is connected between my phone and my head unit. I need to take mine out and put it in the dash. I finally went and bought one this weekend. Eliminated 99.9 percent of the noise that I was hearing. Well worth the $15. One other thing that was causing me issues was my graphic equalizer was on and that made the audio sound horrible (its labeled audio booster in the program files)


http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...h/CIMG3159.jpg



http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...h/CIMG3161.jpg

That is the same one I use and works perfectly elimating the noise. Howerver I have noticed that it does lower my bass response a little.

gianthobbit 12-24-2008 03:28 AM

Re: sound quality terrible if charing
 
The way i have mine setup is a direct 3.5 jack coming from the back of my cd unit to plug directily into the device. So what I am going to do is buy is to spiltters (3.5 to the left and right red and white audio) and inbetween this use the isolater. Is this correct?

Darkness231 01-03-2009 07:17 PM

Re: sound quality terrible if charing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gianthobbit (Post 597855)
The way i have mine setup is a direct 3.5 jack coming from the back of my cd unit to plug directily into the device. So what I am going to do is buy is to spiltters (3.5 to the left and right red and white audio) and inbetween this use the isolater. Is this correct?

Yes you need a stereo phono to 3.5mm adapter. (x2)
http://www.lektropacks.com/uploads/m...l140-large.jpg

or

http://www.psylins.co.uk/shop/shopim.../Cable-470.jpg

or

http://www.lindy.co.uk/lindyshop/pictures/35490big.jpg

or you could by a ground loop isolator with 3.5mm connections: such as
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-MfAxK69...se-Filter.html
http://akamaipix.crutchfield.com/pro...7SNi135-fp.jpg


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