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cool8man 11-18-2008 04:25 AM

Why don't other apps use the accelerometer as well as Kinoma Player?
 
The accelerometer use in the latest Kinoma update is excellent. The screen rotation is incredibly fast and the transition animations are excellent. I didn't even know the Touch Pro hardware was capable of this. Kinoma is more finger friendly than any program I've used so far for Windows Mobile. Unlike TouchFlo finger flicking is accurate and requires a very light touch. Animations are very smooth and fast.

I wish other Windows Mobile devs would use this code for their programs. Opera Mobile for example is incredibly slow and has no animation when rotating the screen.

Kinoma is so polished it should be built into TouchFlo or Windows Mobile OS. HTC or Microsoft should seriously consider buying this company and it's programmers.

yotoad 11-20-2008 10:34 AM

Re: Why don't other apps use the accelerometer as well as Kinoma Player?
 
unfortunately mine worked for the first few times i played with kinoma freeplay, but isn't working any longer . . .

jsjaybone 11-20-2008 10:45 AM

Re: Why don't other apps use the accelerometer as well as Kinoma Player?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yotoad (Post 531349)
unfortunately mine worked for the first few times i played with kinoma freeplay, but isn't working any longer . . .

Hmmm I too have the same issue :scratch:

yotoad 11-20-2008 11:29 AM

Re: Why don't other apps use the accelerometer as well as Kinoma Player?
 
i'm tempted to pull the trigger with this program -- i'm loving it, but i want it to work

DaPeeps 11-20-2008 12:09 PM

Re: Why don't other apps use the accelerometer as well as Kinoma Player?
 
Funny..I just started a thread about this before I saw this one. I just bought the full KinomaPlay, and was very disappointed that the only way I can find to make it go full screen in landscape is to open the keyboard. The accelerometer has never worked for me.

BigDiesel07 11-20-2008 12:24 PM

Re: Why don't other apps use the accelerometer as well as Kinoma Player?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cool8man (Post 526626)
The accelerometer use in the latest Kinoma update is excellent. The screen rotation is incredibly fast and the transition animations are excellent. I didn't even know the Touch Pro hardware was capable of this. Kinoma is more finger friendly than any program I've used so far for Windows Mobile. Unlike TouchFlo finger flicking is accurate and requires a very light touch. Animations are very smooth and fast.

I wish other Windows Mobile devs would use this code for their programs. Opera Mobile for example is incredibly slow and has no animation when rotating the screen.

Kinoma is so polished it should be built into TouchFlo or Windows Mobile OS. HTC or Microsoft should seriously consider buying this company and it's programmers.

It seems some people have the accelerometer work and others are unable to have it work properly... I do agree it is a polished piece of software, especially the free version, which I use extensively... However, I would rather it stay independent then being bought out... It's good to have competition... If there were none, we would all still be using Windows 3.1...

xdmg 11-20-2008 12:55 PM

Re: Why don't other apps use the accelerometer as well as Kinoma Player?
 
Mine does not auto rotate as well.

yotoad 11-20-2008 01:13 PM

Re: Why don't other apps use the accelerometer as well as Kinoma Player?
 
auto-rotating and VGA resolution would be nice. also, their website says that the update includes a way to set file associations, but i don't see an option for that in their menus . . .

bedoig 11-20-2008 01:38 PM

Re: Why don't other apps use the accelerometer as well as Kinoma Player?
 
Mine wasn't auto-rotating either, so I did a little digging in their forums. It seems the g-sensor implementation in Kinoma is not perfect yet, and many others are having the same issue. It might be a good idea to report the bug to their support department so that it can be fixed in future releases.

In the meantime, try this workaround posted by vw195 on the Kinoma forum:
Open another sensor-aware program in the background and then launch Kinoma. Sprint TV seemed to work for me, although launching just Opera in the background did not (which is unfortunate, because I almost always have Opera open anyway, but I never use Sprint TV).

TurboFool 11-20-2008 01:46 PM

Re: Why don't other apps use the accelerometer as well as Kinoma Player?
 
Yeah, just upgraded, doesn't seem to be working effectively for me, either. Too bad, as this was just about the only thing (besides VGA support) missing from it. It's such a solid program.

flyhigh 11-20-2008 02:34 PM

Re: Why don't other apps use the accelerometer as well as Kinoma Player?
 
Guys, I love the program. Does anyone have issues with very slow loading from picture to picture though? I can breeze from pic to pic with TF3D but with Kinoma, it has to load or buffer every single picture. Also, to stay on topic, I tried having "teeter" open in the background but that didn't help the accelerometer issue.

VW 11-20-2008 03:02 PM

Re: Why don't other apps use the accelerometer as well as Kinoma Player?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bedoig (Post 531651)
In the meantime, try this workaround posted by vw195 on the Kinoma forum:
Open another sensor-aware program in the background and then launch Kinoma. Sprint TV seemed to work for me, although launching just Opera in the background did not (which is unfortunate, because I almost always have Opera open anyway, but I never use Sprint TV).

Heh He/I got it from Cool8man, the originator of this thread. Thanks Cool8man!

bedoig 11-20-2008 03:50 PM

Re: Why don't other apps use the accelerometer as well as Kinoma Player?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flyhigh (Post 531748)
Guys, I love the program. Does anyone have issues with very slow loading from picture to picture though? I can breeze from pic to pic with TF3D but with Kinoma, it has to load or buffer every single picture. Also, to stay on topic, I tried having "teeter" open in the background but that didn't help the accelerometer issue.

Sprint TV was actually the only program that seemed to work for me. YMMV.

[Edit: Interestingly, after that initial process of running Sprint TV before starting Kinoma, the orientation changing now appears to function without anything running in the background. Strange thing is that it never once worked for me before that. Just glad it's working now!]

Quote:

Originally Posted by VW (Post 531826)
Heh He/I got it from Cool8man, the originator of this thread. Thanks Cool8man!

Ha! Small (PPC) world :)

yotoad 11-20-2008 04:15 PM

Re: Why don't other apps use the accelerometer as well as Kinoma Player?
 
it works with sprint TV in the background -- is there another sensor-aware program that would be better to run in the background?

bedoig 11-20-2008 04:20 PM

Re: Why don't other apps use the accelerometer as well as Kinoma Player?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yotoad (Post 532023)
it works with sprint TV in the background -- is there another sensor-aware program that would be better to run in the background?

It seems to be something unique to Sprint TV. Opera doesn't work, and another user reported that Teeter didn't help either.

Also, after a soft reset I was back to square one. It seems for now you have to open Sprint TV each time you launch the program (although you can close it immediatley after). I'm sure a more elegant solution will come along soon enough, but for now it works.

BigDiesel07 11-20-2008 04:23 PM

Re: Why don't other apps use the accelerometer as well as Kinoma Player?
 
This must have something to do with how Sprint TV communicates with the accelerometer... After Sprint TV interacts with the accelerometer, something happens that enables the accelerometer to work with Kinoma... I bet Sprint TV communicates with the accelerometer in a way that is different then Teeter...

bedoig 11-20-2008 04:33 PM

Re: Why don't other apps use the accelerometer as well as Kinoma Player?
 
Reminds me of the early Mogul days when we had to prime the GPS with Google Maps, Live Search, etc. before launching some of the more finicky GPS nav programs.

yotoad 11-20-2008 05:09 PM

Re: Why don't other apps use the accelerometer as well as Kinoma Player?
 
I think it's a SOLID program -- tempted to upgrade . . .

BigDiesel07 11-20-2008 05:18 PM

Re: Why don't other apps use the accelerometer as well as Kinoma Player?
 
What's nice about Kinoma is that they do update their software on a semi-regular basis and that you can update the program from within it... No need to install a new .CAB or link to your computer...

shark1987 11-20-2008 05:23 PM

Re: Why don't other apps use the accelerometer as well as Kinoma Player?
 
yea, you loose it also if you close out kinoma and then try and start it up again.

So everytime you start kinoma you have to start SprintTV as well.

djhes 11-20-2008 05:31 PM

Re: Why don't other apps use the accelerometer as well as Kinoma Player?
 
So am I reading right and people that have upgraded are having issues? I got the free version and it is sooo sick, much better than core player for me. And I donno if I am supposed to but I have orb working perfectly streaming videos from the free version.

It would be dope if everything worked as quickly as this program.

yotoad 11-20-2008 05:47 PM

Re: Why don't other apps use the accelerometer as well as Kinoma Player?
 
i only have the free version and it's working really really well --all in one -- i wish it had VGA resolution, but it's fine right now.

flyhigh 11-20-2008 10:26 PM

Re: Why don't other apps use the accelerometer as well as Kinoma Player?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by djhes (Post 532270)
It would be dope if everything worked as quickly as this program.

I get serious lag when switching between pictures. Going from one picture to the next I get a "Preparing" message while it loads. I don't get this in touch flo. Kinoma is my default music player (among other things like Orb) but I can't use it for viewing photos for this reason. Anyone else have this problem? Incidentally, it happens with photos take with the TP as well as larger size imported photos.

Also, I tried the sprint TV work around. WOW! I didn't even know Kinoma would do that! Very cool. I hope this can be fixed so it works all the time. Kinoma is one of my favorite apps.

dr g 11-20-2008 10:59 PM

Re: Why don't other apps use the accelerometer as well as Kinoma Player?
 
Kinoma's accelerometer rotation never worked for me, even with the updated version. You can make it work with Gyrator if you have this problem.

Kinoma is a great piece of software that just needs a few more steps before I'm ready to pay for it. Orb live TV control is at the top of my list, working accelerometer while playing video, and VGA resolution are the others.


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