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xtravbx 01-14-2009 07:15 PM

Re: Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keyboard.
 
I'm aware that bumping a thread doesn't automatically fix an issue. I'm bumping simply to let it be known that another user (myself) is also anxiously waiting for a fix.

Just because of your high post count, doesn't mean you're not a noob in my eyes.

I've been around for quite awhile now, and only I tend to post in threads where I need information, such as this one.

There's a lot more than my simple "bump" post that is an un-insightful post here in this thread.

Hope this annoyed you.

cornelious2 01-14-2009 07:28 PM

Re: Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keyboard.
 
it annoyed much more than just one person I can assure you. I will not belittle you or say anything bad, I just ask that you follow the golden rule don't post to others what you would not want posted to yourself. on the big issues (keyboard issue, fm radio, blurry cameras to name a few) especially after a thread buries itself people expect that when they see it some progress has been made. when they click it and just see it is some one posting something like bump, please fix!!!, I have this issue too! these posts already have tons of posts into them so its really unneeded. The issues are known if theres a thread about it that got burried we all know about it but have no solution.

chronster 01-16-2009 10:56 AM

Re: Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keyboard.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xtravbx (Post 640528)
I'm aware that bumping a thread doesn't automatically fix an issue. I'm bumping simply to let it be known that another user (myself) is also anxiously waiting for a fix.

Just because of your high post count, doesn't mean you're not a noob in my eyes.

I've been around for quite awhile now, and only I tend to post in threads where I need information, such as this one.

There's a lot more than my simple "bump" post that is an un-insightful post here in this thread.

Hope this annoyed you.

lol no it doesn't annoy me. It brings me pleasure, and at the same time, I pity you. I hardly said anything that can be considered slightly offensive, and yet you took such offense to it. I pity you for taking the internet so seriously, and I take pleasure in knowing how miserable the big meanie heads on the internet must have made you feel in the past. Can't argue my logic as never before has the saying "misery finds company" been so apparent in a single post.

Good luck to you.

OR78 01-17-2009 01:10 AM

Re: Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keyboard.
 
This thread is way off course. Lets focus here!!!!! Coz, can you clean this up a bit????

Zenoran 01-17-2009 02:49 AM

Re: Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keyboard.
 
Not Possible. Close Thread Imo.

GhettoBSD 01-17-2009 07:09 PM

Re: Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keyboard.
 
any updates? lollllllll

rjmjr69 01-17-2009 09:42 PM

Re: Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keyboard.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zenoran (Post 646520)
Not Possible. Close Thread Imo.

ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE throw enough money at it

chuckz07 01-17-2009 10:22 PM

Re: Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keyboard.
 
Been following this like most and agree it has gotten a little off course...but here is what I've found and hopefully it helps to get back on course. 1st off, most of the posts i've read in this thread are for the LCD Backlight and not the Keyboard Backlight, atleast that is my opinion. I have found some reg entries that are for the Hardware Keyboard...HKLM/Drivers/BuiltIn/(Keylight and Keypad)...Keylight uses the MicroP.dll and I skimmed through it and didn't find anything that seemed to help except for a ref to the coredll.dll, in which I cannot copy or access (maybe because I don't know how or whatever...just get an error)...Keypad uses the keypad.dll, skimmed through it too but did't see anything. Now I quickly looked at both, but of course I could have missed something...but I hope this helps a little anyway.

chronster 01-18-2009 12:17 AM

Re: Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keyboard.
 
Ok, I want to say sorry for responding to that guy. It took this thread even further off course.

chuckz07 thanks for the recap as to where we are at. It was helpful and the type of thing people are looking for.

signothefish 02-02-2009 03:14 AM

Re: Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keyboard.
 
Well, keep plugging away experts. I have subscribed to this thread, so let's keep it on topic because I don't feel like reading through a lot of emails saying who hurt who's feelings.

jupiter 02-02-2009 04:04 AM

Re: Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keyboard.
 
i cant believe htc manufactured this to only stay on for 6 seconds

TheDempster 03-06-2009 04:02 PM

Re: Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keyboard.
 
This thread was started the middle of November, and it is now the middle of March. 41/2 months, and no one has been able to solve this. I vote that we all send HTC and email about this problem. There is strength in numbers.

Here is the HTC support link http://www.htc.com/www/CS_Mail.aspx

The Email I just sent reads is follows:

There is a major flaw in your CDMA HTC Touch Pro product.
The slide-out hardware keyboard back light shuts off in 10 seconds or less
(unacceptable in dark environments).

I am a part of a large user consortium that is requesting a fix for this major flaw.

A cab file that allows the user to set his own hardware keyboard back light time-out is the most desired solution, or a file to replace an existing driver file would be acceptable.

The Phone is almost perfect accept for this annoying function.

Expect more emails from frustrated users. Please reply so that I may forward your response up to the many forums PPCGeeks,XDA Developers,Sprint Users, Verizon Wireless users,Howard Forums, HTC Wicki and the like.

There are many threads about this major problem at many of these sites.

You may even want to post a reward for one of the bright developers at these sites to come up with a solution if your technical staff cannot.

Please search the forums to view the many, many users that are plagued with this problem.

Again, a response is requested.




Please copy and paste the body of the message that I sent, and bombard them, with emails.

Power to the people

Cicatrize 03-06-2009 04:23 PM

Re: Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keyboard.
 
Sorry, research on this was postponed while I was working on my budget app. lol

GhettoBSD 03-06-2009 07:36 PM

Re: Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keyboard.
 
according to some people on this forum, you are a joke for attempting to make HTC change anything for you. Apparently, unless there is a 100% consensus and similar call to action, nothing is worth doing.

hahaha

that being said, i'll email them too :P

thanks

* tried sending email website gave an error. will try again from home.

lbjohnny 03-06-2009 09:07 PM

Re: Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keyboard.
 
emailed them 2X

lbjohnny 03-07-2009 11:29 AM

Re: Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keyboard.
 
emailed back from: Christy [info@htc.com]

"Thank you for your inquiry about the keyboard backlight settings on the device.

We understand it is can be frustrating to not have keyboard backlight settings on the device. This is a power saving feature on the device, but the keyboard will light back up when you press another key. As for any updates to change this, it would need to be requested by the carrier.

HTC cannot implement any software upgrades without the carrier's approval. We apologize for any inconveniences this may cause you. I hope we have answered your question in detail. Feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions."

http://www.america.htc.com
http://www.htcwiki.com[/quote]

chronster 03-07-2009 11:45 AM

Re: Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keyboard.
 
so in other words "Call Sprint about this." and when you contact sprint about it, sprint will probably say "This is something only HTC can fix. Call them."

jucytec 03-07-2009 12:48 PM

Re: Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keyboard.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marcus_cruz (Post 524902)
Anyone have IDA Pro ? It handles PPC's fairly well.


I have IDA Pro

jucytec 03-07-2009 01:12 PM

Re: Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keyboard.
 
I'm not sure why someone would go through decompiling a DLL rather than creating a program to keep alive the keyboard. NueRom's NuePower/Backlight seems to control the KB Backlight timeout fine...

Decompiling a DLL won't exactly give u the original source code, it's usually a very low level structure, and functions which you'll have to reverse engineer first before you can start making some changes...

Even if this was simple, you'll still need to study the code, it's not like decompilers restore the comments that was in the original sourcecode.

My 2 cents.

OR78 03-07-2009 02:06 PM

Re: Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keyboard.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lbjohnny (Post 758220)
emailed back from: Christy [info@htc.com]

"Thank you for your inquiry about the keyboard backlight settings on the device.

We understand it is can be frustrating to not have keyboard backlight settings on the device. This is a power saving feature on the device, but the keyboard will light back up when you press another key. As for any updates to change this, it would need to be requested by the carrier.

HTC cannot implement any software upgrades without the carrier's approval. We apologize for any inconveniences this may cause you. I hope we have answered your question in detail. Feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions."

http://www.america.htc.com
http://www.htcwiki.com

[/quote]


I got the same respons word for word

Thank you for your inquiry about the backlight settings on the keyboard.

I understand how frustrating it can be to not be able to see the keyboard when attempting to type on your phone. However, we currently do not have a way to change the keyboard backlight settings on the device. I have forwarded your file so that it can be reviewed by our engineers so that in a future build of the CDMA devices, there may be a fix available. I do apologize for any inconvenience that this may have caused you.

Asphyx 03-07-2009 09:07 PM

Re: Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keyboard.
 
I just hit the shift key and it lights back up...

Considering the battery life of a standard TP I am happy to let it save as much power as possible because it sure doesn't conserve it in other more important areas...

I do believe Nue has a fix in OEM form that will do what you want. Think it maybe included in the PPCKitchen...

Cicatrize 03-18-2009 03:17 PM

Re: Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keyboard.
 
Problem SOLVED! CAB file below (need to soft reset after install)

Thanks to no2Chem for getting this puppy working:

http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/pos...BLight-11.aspx

NOTE: Is not confirmed working on GSM version yet. DO NOT INSTALL on GSM Touch Pro

Also, it has an issue with Manila, but I'm sure he'll fix that. It kinda kills the landscape manila.

Cicatrize 03-18-2009 04:32 PM

Re: [3/18/09: NO2CHEM FIX RELEASED!!!] Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keybo
 
Surprised there aren't any responses yet...

rushco 03-18-2009 04:33 PM

Re: [3/18/09: NO2CHEM FIX RELEASED!!!] Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keybo
 
There is another thread going already. People like creating new ones.

YAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ycats 03-18-2009 05:07 PM

Re: [3/18/09: NO2CHEM FIX RELEASED!!!] Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keybo
 
yep, screws up landscape Manila

Cicatrize 03-18-2009 05:40 PM

Re: [3/18/09: NO2CHEM FIX RELEASED!!!] Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keybo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ycats (Post 781146)
yep, screws up landscape Manila

Completely worth it to me.

rushco 03-18-2009 05:44 PM

Re: [3/18/09: NO2CHEM FIX RELEASED!!!] Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keybo
 
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/pos...BLight-12.aspx

Updated

fr4nk1yn 03-18-2009 08:13 PM

Re: [3/18/09: NO2CHEM FIX RELEASED!!!] Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keybo
 
Can somebody attach or mirror the cab please for some reason I could never download from the site, I get a server error.
NVM. Just found I can right click and save from the CP.

BTW No2Chem is SO gonna get another donation from me (o:

rjmjr69 03-19-2009 01:00 AM

Re: [3/18/09: NO2CHEM FIX RELEASED!!!] Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keybo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ycats (Post 781146)
yep, screws up landscape Manila

Just dotn open teh keyboard while in manilla "Start screen" So if your opening to send a text then open the text app first then keyboard. Or just deal with it lol I love it so well worth it.

no2chem 03-19-2009 02:27 AM

Re: [3/18/09: NO2CHEM FIX RELEASED!!!] Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keybo
 
version 1.3, fixes manila and makes power-on slide an option.

...hopefully you enjoy it. htc didn't make it easy =p.
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/pos...BLight-13.aspx

TheDoctor1971 03-19-2009 02:40 AM

Re: [3/18/09: NO2CHEM FIX RELEASED!!!] Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keybo
 
I was gonna say, it works just fine in landscape with the new TP2 manilla.

rushco 03-19-2009 02:52 AM

Re: [3/18/09: NO2CHEM FIX RELEASED!!!] Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keybo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by no2chem (Post 782242)
version 1.3, fixes manila and makes power-on slide an option.

...hopefully you enjoy it. htc didn't make it easy =p.
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/pos...BLight-13.aspx

You da man!

Merdinh 03-19-2009 02:52 AM

Re: [3/18/09: NO2CHEM FIX RELEASED!!!] Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keybo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoctor1971 (Post 782259)
I was gonna say, it works just fine in landscape with the new TP2 manilla.


+1 on that, i just tried it with the manila 2 on my rom, and it works great, great work no2chem.

rjmjr69 03-19-2009 04:21 AM

Re: [3/18/09: NO2CHEM FIX RELEASED!!!] Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keybo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by no2chem (Post 782242)
version 1.3, fixes manila and makes power-on slide an option.

...hopefully you enjoy it. htc didn't make it easy =p.
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/pos...BLight-13.aspx

YOU ARE GOD!!!! Donation on its way I love you!!! lol

Ticklemepinks 03-19-2009 04:27 AM

Re: [3/18/09: NO2CHEM FIX RELEASED!!!] Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keybo
 
it works great...not wit sliding sounds tho lol it plays the slide out sound like 3 tymes

no2chem 03-19-2009 04:28 AM

Re: [3/18/09: NO2CHEM FIX RELEASED!!!] Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keybo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hotboy8628 (Post 782352)
it works great...not wit sliding sounds tho lol it plays the slide out sound like 3 tymes

hmm guess i should take a look at sliding sounds, i haven't used them much because it attracts too much attention, heh.

rjmjr69 03-19-2009 04:57 AM

Re: [3/18/09: NO2CHEM FIX RELEASED!!!] Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keybo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by no2chem (Post 782354)
hmm guess i should take a look at sliding sounds, i haven't used them much because it attracts too much attention, heh.

has not happened to me yet but I'm hard resetting now so who knows what will happen.

If you do not mind me asking what is the single largest donation you have ever received for your hard work? If its to personal can you please pm it to me. Thanks


Now a control panel maybe with a timer? lol:headbang:

yourborfrombk 03-19-2009 06:54 AM

Re: [3/18/09: NO2CHEM FIX RELEASED!!!] Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keybo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hotboy8628 (Post 782352)
it works great...not wit sliding sounds tho lol it plays the slide out sound like 3 tymes

YOOO A CUTE CHICK INTO MODDING HER PHONE LOL HOW RARE SMH YO CAN YOUR CUTE AS$ TELL ME HOW TO GET THE FM RADIO TO WORK LOL SORRY IF IM TOPIC BUT I TWEAKED MY PHONE SO MUCH THAT IM TWEAKED OUT!! ](*,)](*,)](*,)<br> IS THERE ANY WAY TO MP3 TRIM SLIDING SOUNDS ? ? ?

rjmjr69 03-19-2009 07:30 AM

Re: [3/18/09: NO2CHEM FIX RELEASED!!!] Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keybo
 
ok hard reset a few times not due to this but just messing with a few roms. Anyhow the sliding sounds app that I use does not work at all when this is installed. lol So I get no sounds not a repeat sound. lol I use the HTC cabbed version.
Also was wondering I notice the light pops on with LITTLE movement to keyboard or is it ALWAYS ON? cant really tell

Cicatrize 03-19-2009 08:37 AM

Re: [3/18/09: NO2CHEM FIX RELEASED!!!] Quest to modify the timeout for hardware keybo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by no2chem (Post 782242)
version 1.3, fixes manila and makes power-on slide an option.

...hopefully you enjoy it. htc didn't make it easy =p.
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/pos...BLight-13.aspx

I love you. Please answer my PM. :D


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