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Yankees368 11-14-2008 01:43 PM

Re: TP Locking Up Overnight
 
So what exactly does "turn off device if not used for" do? I have it set for 40 seconds while on internal power.

Sayajin 11-14-2008 01:45 PM

Re: TP Locking Up Overnight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yankees368 (Post 519138)
So what exactly does "turn off device if not used for" do? I have it set for 40 seconds while on internal power.


It means put your device into standby mode...

The problem (with the Apache at least) was that once it was in hibernated/standby mode it would not wake up,

-Sayajin

Yankees368 11-14-2008 01:47 PM

Re: TP Locking Up Overnight
 
I'm still a little confused as to what standby mode is. I have no problems with the phone locking up while on battery power. What does standby mode turn off?

bullet2300 11-14-2008 01:49 PM

Re: TP Locking Up Overnight
 
In theory, the reason why this would happen overnight is (my theory, could be totally wrong):

You hook the phone up to charge over night and set your alarm and go to sleep. The phone goes to standby after so long and is charging up. The phone is using such little power than the battery starts to warm a bit, it reaches full or almost full charge and gets so hot the phone locksup, unable to get out of standby when the alarm goes off. You wake up to a lockedup phone and the charge light frozen on.


... I could be totally off though :D


It doesn't happen while the phone is on the battery because your aren't pumping juice into it while its on standby. The battery can slowly power the phone on standby, keep it cooler.

xunknownx 11-14-2008 01:54 PM

Re: TP Locking Up Overnight
 
come to think of it, i think my fone locked up on me while talking on the phone once. it was after my phone call so i tried to hit the hangup button, but my entire screen was already black and i couldnt do anything except do a soft reset.

bullet2300 11-14-2008 01:55 PM

Re: TP Locking Up Overnight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xunknownx (Post 519171)
come to think of it, i think my fone locked up on me while talking on the phone once. it was after my phone call so i tried to hit the hangup button, but my entire screen was already black and i couldnt do anything except do a soft reset.

Again, this could be a heat issue. There is a big thread about people mentioning being on a call for awhile and then the phone freezing.

I have been on a 45 min call and have not had it freeze. Only time mine randomly freezes is when it charges overnight :(

tsperez 11-14-2008 02:04 PM

Re: TP Locking Up Overnight
 
I had this happen once or twice also. Observations:
1 - It happens while charging only.
2 - Not heat related because it happened once to me after the phone had been on the charger only a short while. Pulled it off, charge light still spinning, and phone totally locked up.
3 - Not related to additional programs and reg edits since someone has a gf with TP with no changes and had the problem.
4 - I have noticed at least once that I plug the phone in and the charging indication does not light up. I unplug and plug again to get it going.
5 - on Adv settings I have it set to 30sec, 2 min, 1 min, 15 min and that other setting (whatever it's called) I have set to "Never".

I think it is a charging / charger issue but sleep modes could play a part. I hope it gets fixed on the next Rev release. We need SP1 just like MS loves to do! :)

tsp

Yankees368 11-14-2008 02:08 PM

Re: TP Locking Up Overnight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tsperez (Post 519199)
I had this happen once or twice also. Observations:
1 - It happens while charging only.
2 - Not heat related because it happened once to me after the phone had been on the charger only a short while. Pulled it off, charge light still spinning, and phone totally locked up.
3 - Not related to additional programs and reg edits since someone has a gf with TP with no changes and had the problem.
4 - I have noticed at least once that I plug the phone in and the charging indication does not light up. I unplug and plug again to get it going.
5 - on Adv settings I have it set to 30sec, 2 min, 1 min, 15 min and that other setting (whatever it's called) I have set to "Never".

I think it is a charging / charger issue but sleep modes could play a part. I hope it gets fixed on the next Rev release. We need SP1 just like MS loves to do! :)

tsp

Agreed. The phone was never hot when it locked up on me.

bullet2300 11-14-2008 02:16 PM

Re: TP Locking Up Overnight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yankees368 (Post 519209)
Agreed. The phone was never hot when it locked up on me.

Then you have a different problem as we are all having it lockup during charges ](*,)

jimmytop 11-14-2008 02:43 PM

Re: TP Locking Up Overnight
 
Last night my phone had 90% when I went to sleep. I left it on the night stand in standby and by morning time charge was down to 30%. As soon as I turned the screen on there was an error message that said something like "error dialing number bloddy bloddy bloddy *777" or it may have been *7777 I don't remember. I don't know why my phone would have been calling any numbers in the middle of the night without my knowledge. Incidentally, after I tried to Dismiss the error message, the phone locked and I had to reboot.

I bet some of you seeing these unexplainable battery losses overnight are having the same thing happen, it's just not giving the error that I got. I may have got the error because of a bad cell signal or something. Anyway, it's not the first time that I woke up to a discharged phone that went from full to empty while sitting in the nightstand in standby overnight.

But it will be the last time, as my BB Curve arrives today :headbang:

bullet2300 11-14-2008 02:46 PM

Re: TP Locking Up Overnight
 
That is not actually a number it's calling, but the Sprint service I believe. I've seen it before, but only when I do a soft reset.


Grats on the BB curve, I like WinMo much better than BB OS ;)

Sayajin 11-14-2008 02:48 PM

Re: TP Locking Up Overnight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bullet2300 (Post 519328)
That is not actually a number it's calling, but the Sprint service I believe. I've seen it before, but only when I do a soft reset.


Grats on the BB curve, I like WinMo much better than BB OS ;)

#777 is actually a data call....


its connecting to the network


-Sayajin

Yankees368 11-14-2008 02:49 PM

Re: TP Locking Up Overnight
 
#777 is a data call. This is the phone establishing a data call. Maybe this is the problem?

jimmytop 11-14-2008 02:52 PM

Re: TP Locking Up Overnight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sayajin (Post 519336)
#777 is actually a data call....


its connecting to the network


-Sayajin

But...why? I always close any open programs before going to standby. I don't want my phone discharging overnight because the phone makes unknown data connections.

Yankees368 11-14-2008 02:53 PM

Re: TP Locking Up Overnight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmytop (Post 519350)
But...why? I always close any open programs before going to standby. I don't want my phone discharging overnight because the phone makes unknown data connections.

Probably to update the weather data, but.usually when my phone is charging overnight, my weather data does not update until the morning. I really dont know anymore.

jimmytop 11-14-2008 02:54 PM

Re: TP Locking Up Overnight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yankees368 (Post 519337)
#777 is a data call. This is the phone establishing a data call. Maybe this is the problem?

I suspect it's definitely related
:violent2:

bullet2300 11-14-2008 03:04 PM

Re: TP Locking Up Overnight
 
Is a data call when the phone accesses the data network for for something like the weather updater or is the data call something like making a call via the hyperterminal on a computer?

Sayajin 11-14-2008 03:15 PM

Re: TP Locking Up Overnight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bullet2300 (Post 519387)
Is a data call when the phone accesses the data network for for something like the weather updater or is the data call something like making a call via the hyperterminal on a computer?


Accessing the network.

Downloading updates to weather, checking email, ect.

-Sayajin

jimmytop 11-14-2008 03:19 PM

Re: TP Locking Up Overnight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sayajin (Post 519418)
Accessing the network.

Downloading updates to weather, checking email, ect.

-Sayajin

If that's the case, is there a way to turn on airplane mode but leave the phone radio on? I mean, there is no reason why my phone needs to make data connections overnight. However, I do need to be able to receive calls.

As far as I can tell, I can turn data connection off but the phone turns it right back on whenever it wants to make one of these data connections. And airplane mode turns off everything, disallowing phone calls as well.

Tell me if I'm wrong

Sayajin 11-14-2008 03:30 PM

Re: TP Locking Up Overnight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmytop (Post 519423)
If that's the case, is there a way to turn on airplane mode but leave the phone radio on? I mean, there is no reason why my phone needs to make data connections overnight. However, I do need to be able to receive calls.

As far as I can tell, I can turn data connection off but the phone turns it right back on whenever it wants to make one of these data connections. And airplane mode turns off everything, disallowing phone calls as well.

Tell me if I'm wrong


There used to be an application/tweak/reg edit for the Titan that made an option to disable all data connections (keep it from using a data connection). However I dont know if there is one for the Touch Pro.


-Sayajin

Yankees368 11-14-2008 03:39 PM

Re: TP Locking Up Overnight
 
A couple of nights ago, before I went to sleep, I attempted to turn off the data connection manually. Everytime I shut off the connection, it popped back on after a few seconds by itself. What is accessing our data?

bullet2300 11-14-2008 03:40 PM

Re: TP Locking Up Overnight
 
Weather and e-mail for sure, but it depends what else you got on your phone I suppose.

Blitzed26 11-15-2008 09:19 PM

Re: TP Locking Up Overnight
 
Well I have two nights under my belt after a hard reset. Both nights = no problems. I have all the same software installed on the tp, but no regedits. It has to be in the regedits. Because I can't handle the battery going dead in 4 hours I will start with the performance hacks one by one to see what is causing the freeze up issue while charging.

Not much of an update, but making progress....

Yankees368 11-16-2008 03:10 PM

Re: TP Locking Up Overnight
 
Locked up on me last night again. Are we any closer to figuring out what is causing this>

gorillaguzzler 11-17-2008 02:00 PM

Re: TP Locking Up Overnight
 
Anyone got any new ideas to the cause of this problem? My phone never did this until the night after I did a restore from a backup now it locks up every night while charging. Any clues to cause would be appreciated.

jimmytop 11-17-2008 04:01 PM

Re: TP Locking Up Overnight
 
I didn't have the patience to baby the phone anymore... I gave up and switched to blackberry. No more unexplained overnight power drains=D>

Fittske 11-17-2008 04:33 PM

Re: TP Locking Up Overnight
 
I think that restoring from a back up with a "slightly" different ROM version is what causes this. I returned my 1st TP to bestbuy and used SPB backup to restore my data. SPB backup notified me that the new phone had a different rom on it than the previous phone. I did the restore that night. When I woke up in the morning, my phone was frozen. I did a hard reset and did a fresh reinstall of my data and have not had a problem ever since.

Blitzed26 11-17-2008 09:19 PM

Re: TP Locking Up Overnight
 
I am using JDTP6.1 now and I haven't had the problem. I only had the problem when I used the stock Rom with a whole lot of performance and battery regedits. Crossing my fingers, but I almost sure the problem lies in a conflicting regedit.

Anyone have the problem w/o any regedits?

Yankees368 11-17-2008 09:44 PM

Re: TP Locking Up Overnight
 
Did anyone by any chance GPS Today installed while their pro froze?

Blitzed26 11-17-2008 09:50 PM

Re: TP Locking Up Overnight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yankees368 (Post 525905)
Did anyone by any chance GPS Today installed while their pro froze?

No I did not.

Deimoss 11-17-2008 10:06 PM

Re: TP Locking Up Overnight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blitzed26 (Post 525843)
I am using JDTP6.1 now and I haven't had the problem. I only had the problem when I used the stock Rom with a whole lot of performance and battery regedits. Crossing my fingers, but I almost sure the problem lies in a conflicting regedit.
*
Anyone have the problem w/o any regedits?

I can confirm this lock up issue is occurring on Touch Pros with no reg edits. Aswell as no previous back-ups. My touch Pro actually just froze build date 10/15/0

gorillaguzzler 11-19-2008 02:12 AM

Re: TP Locking Up Overnight
 
I unchecked today timeout and turn off device if not used for(under external power) last nite and this morning was the first time in over a week I woke up to an unfroze phone. I will report back if it continues to work. If you have not tried it you should about the easiest thing you can try and I am hoping it fixed my problem.

Compusmurf 11-19-2008 12:19 PM

Re: TP Locking Up Overnight
 
Folks with lockups, do you have "aftermarket" apps installed in Main Memory or storage card?

vashwood 11-20-2008 10:59 AM

Re: Lockup while charging
 
Have you been able to resolve this? It has happened to me last night. Same exact issue.

bullet2300 11-20-2008 11:55 AM

Re: Lockup while charging
 
It's an issue others (like myself) have experienced.

I would try unchecking the today timeout under system settings and also uncheck the "turn device off after" while on external power.

I did those things (and a hard reset) and mine phone has been fine since then... but I have a feeling it's a bigger issue than unchecking two boxes. Try that though, and see if you have any troubles. So far I have been fine...

Compusmurf 11-20-2008 11:59 AM

Re: Lockup while charging
 
JDS, no disrespect, but there's tons of posts already on here about that. Consider browsing for awhile or searching instead of a new post to rehash the same thing that the other posts have.

blazinazn 11-26-2008 08:31 AM

Re: TP Locking Up Overnight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gorillaguzzler (Post 528692)
I unchecked today timeout and turn off device if not used for(under external power) last nite and this morning was the first time in over a week I woke up to an unfroze phone. I will report back if it continues to work. If you have not tried it you should about the easiest thing you can try and I am hoping it fixed my problem.

Woke up this morning and experienced the same thing everyone else has. I've had my phone for about 2 weeks now and it just happened for the first time last night, blank screen, light on the D-Pad completely lit, no response, had to pull out the battery and restart.

This is what I did yesterday, maybe something I did caused it?

1) Installed a new 8gb microSD card and moved all my pictures/ringtones to my memory card. Previously just had the 1gb card with some music

2) Changed icons for landscape mode by replacing the _manilla files

3) ran the nocurtain.cab file to get rid of the top curtain

I have previously done registry tweaks to enhance the performance of TF3D and the sensitivity of the screen and didn't have this problem.

I've done what others have suggested and turned off the today timeout and turn off screen when connected to external power.

Hopefully, we can get an update for those who have done this and see if that has solved the problem. I will see if I have this problem tomorrow when I wake up now that I have made the changes.

CareTake12 11-26-2008 05:58 PM

Touch Pro Shutting OFF
 
Have anyone experience there phone shutting off during the middle of the night?

cforster 11-26-2008 06:05 PM

Re: Touch Pro Shutting OFF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CareTake12 (Post 544829)
Have anyone experience there phone shutting off during the middle of the night?

Nope, use the alarm feature every morning actually, works like a champ for me....

suprajjang 11-26-2008 06:22 PM

Re: Touch Pro Shutting OFF
 
My Touch Pro becomes unresponsive overnight sometimes. I use my phone as an alarm and it made me 30 minutes late today because the phone froze and the only way to get it to work was to do a soft reset on it. This doesnt happen all the time but today was the third time it has happened. This also only happens when the phone is on the charger.


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