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iv heard that the raphael and the diamond share similar mainboards..and that it may be possible to solder on flash memory

anyone of heard of such a thing?

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I've heard that the Raphael has plenty of memory so this is not necessary.

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He's referring to flash memory, not RAM. The Diamond has 192MB of RAM, 512MB of ROM and 4GB of onboard flash memory, but no microSD slot. The Touch Pro has 288MB of RAM, 512MB of ROM, and a microSD slot, but no onboard flash memory. He's wondering if it would be possible to add onboard flash memory to the Touch Pro since he suspects (maybe correctly) that they share the same or similar mainboards.

My suspicion, though, is that this is impossible for a variety of reasons. The one I'll highlight, though, is that they likely connected the Touch Pro's microSD slot to whatever contact points are used for flash memory in Diamond, making it an either/or scenario. I doubt they'd leave perfectly good an open potential connections unused on both models. Since one supports one and the other supports the other (and since the Verizon Diamond trades the 4GB onboard for the microSD), this is probably due to there being only one possible connection for "removable" memory.

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That would still take us back to what 1999tl said, would it be worth it, possibly destroying your phone, just to have flash memory? Microsd vs flash memory, I think thats an easy decision for most of us.

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why don't you just get a 4GB microSD card, and then you can forget that you can take it out? It'd be alot cheaper, and no soldering on a very expensive device.

Why would you want to have it soldered in?

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Again, I don't think his goal was to replace the microSD slot with it, I think he was hoping to add it. Which is why my post explained why this is likely impossible as it would have to replace it.

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I just bought an 8 gb Microsd card for 21.50 shipped on ebay. 16 gb cards are shipping now, but I'd rather wait till the price drops b/c I dont even have my 8gb card filled up yet. 16 gb cards will drop once the 32 gb ones come out beginning of 09. Soldering is not worth it to me.

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Geez, my 4GB is only half full.

But once I get the touch pro, I'll probably get an 8GB and actually put music on it.

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I had to upgrade b/c the new tomtom takes up 1.8 gb and lexipedia takes up 850 mb. lexipedia isn't necessary if I have internet, but I just have it on my card just in case i need to look up something without service.

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yeah my 4G is maxed :( so i ordered a 16gb

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The diamond has: 256MB ROM 288MB RAM (256 for app, 32mb for Video) and 4GB internal storage

The Pro has: 512MB ROM, 256MB RAM (dont know about video) and a Storage card expansion slot.

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I was unaware Sprint had upgraded the Diamond over its GSM counterpart which has only 192MB of RAM. I had been under the impression that they HAD upgraded the ROM, though. My mistake.

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yah the CDMA devices got some extra ram :D

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it's not that i didnt know these specs... but i have a mogul... so just seeing these listed again brought a tear of joy to my eye! lol God Bless HTC:mrgreen:

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I thought the Pro has 288MB RAM as well...

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It does

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soo my main question is since i can use the internal memory on my diamond to access programs saved to it, will i be able to do the same with the pro's SD card ?

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yes, you can run programs from the SD card.

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You always could with Windows Mobile. The catch is that a lot of apps run quite poorly from it. The only programs I've ever installed to my SD card are the ones that required it (such as Sashimi). Otherwise I stick to internal memory. I've never installed enough programs to run out of space on my Mogul, and the Touch Pro has twice as much ROM.

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I know what RAM and ROM stand for but how are the terms used when it comes to WM? I've been using Palm OS for quites sometime. Do programs I purchase typically get installed to ROM like a hard disk drive on a computer? Is RAM the temporary storage used to run programs? Is the additional flash memory or card simply additional storage space similar to ROM? Thanks.

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You are correct.

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You pretty much said it right there. ROM is equivalent to the internal hard drive, RAM is RAM, and SD card is like the external hard drive.

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Thanks! So the Sprint HTC Touch Pro does not have any flash memory at all just a card slot correct?

Does anyone remember the old programs like Stacker that used compression to increase hard drive capacity? Is anything like that available for cards or jump drives? Just curious if you could double the extra storage for the 4GB Diamond if you needed to.

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Well you can always get a 16gb microsd and have 4 times that of the diamond.

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Just to correct you, the CDMA Diamond has 288MB of RAM...not 192.

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The HTC Touch Pro has 512MB of ROM and a microSD card slot. The Diamond contains 4GB of flash memory in ADDITION to the ROM, and in place of a card slot.

As for compression, those whole-drive compression methods had two major problems: performance (it took a lot of work to be constantly compressing and decompressing files) and reliability (they essentially converted the whole drive into one file, so any corruption would destroy everything), which is why they're pretty much non-existent now. Also I don't think the phones could handle that strain.


I think I've already been corrected at least twice, but maybe it wasn't this thread. Hadn't realized they had changed it for the CDMA version when I wrote that.

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Touch Pro specs from the source:
http://search.sprint.com/inquiraapp/...3D#__highlight