CEO's. Execs. Corporate Idiots. Etc.

[Genjinaro]

What I don't care for is having to wait for the device when I damn well know that a CDMA version is out there and working. And even after a battery of alleged tests, we still get a product that is half-*****.

LMAO, y'know I fully agree with you there... Touche'...

[berry_lthird]

Originally Posted by holo

wahh the successors to the touch/titan aren't here yet - you complain that they are taking forever to release it then say you aren't going to pick it up for another few months?

they are releasing these phones less than/slightly more than a year after the release of the touch/titan - so you managed to hear about it early, if it was coming out now you would have heard about it a few months ago and would have just been making this rant then man. HTC does not have unlimited resources, they are trying to launch several phones worldwide right now. The US is not their primary concern. Big deal. The versions that are floating around are just a probably very small handful of prototype devices. It takes time to build up some inventory and to put the finishing touches on the stuff that can't be changed after release (the hardware).

oh, and if you don't want to hack the phone why don't you go with a real carrier that actually carries phones? you can't blame sprint and htc etc etc when it's obviously cricket that doesn't give a damn about getting the phone on their network. I agree with you that if you're going to use cricket go pick up one of those chocolates they probably have behind the counter - if they even have something that advanced.... as for me I have sprint and will be picking this up the day it comes out, without having to do any kind of hacking, and will be thankful we got these phones this well in line with other parts of the world.

If none of you are annoyed by this, fine.

But I am.

Just like every iPhone customer is not a loyal sheep of AT&T, not every Mogul/Touch Pro customer is going to be loyal to Sprint.

So hooray for you: You get to pay at least $30 more for features that I already have unlimited. If you've got that kind of money to blow, good for you.

If I'm going to wait, then I might as well wait it out on MY terms. Just like I did with the Touch. I now have all the features a Sprint customer does, but with unlimited calling anywhere plus EVDO internet and tethering, and I pay $360 a year less for it.

So yeah, I'll wait. And once you Sprint users get through dealing with all the patches and bugs, I'll snag one off eBay or Craig's List for about half the price day 1 customers do theirs. A bad ESN Chocolate 3 is entirely optional in the meantime, as my Touch is still running like a champ. After all, I can afford at least two other premium phones with the savings I'll reap.

[holo]

Originally Posted by berry_lthird

If none of you are annoyed by this, fine.

But I am.

Just like every iPhone customer is not a loyal sheep of AT&T, not every Mogul/Touch Pro customer is going to be loyal to Sprint.

So hooray for you: You get to pay at least $30 more for features that I already have unlimited. If you've got that kind of money to blow, good for you.

If I'm going to wait, then I might as well wait it out on MY terms. Just like I did with the Touch. I now have all the features a Sprint customer does, but with unlimited calling anywhere plus EVDO internet and tethering, and I pay $360 a year less for it.

So yeah, I'll wait. And once you Sprint users get through dealing with all the patches and bugs, I'll snag one off eBay or Craig's List for about half the price day 1 customers do theirs. A bad ESN Chocolate 3 is entirely optional in the meantime, as my Touch is still running like a champ. After all, I can afford at least two other premium phones with the savings I'll reap.

FYI I pay sprint $50/mo the same price as your cricket plans for more minutes than I could ever use (1250) unlimited m2m, free 7pm nights/weekends, unlimited data, unlimited roaming (try that on cricket), unlimited ld, unlimited data roaming, unlimited texting, etc, so no, I'm not paying $360/yr more than you. I also probably got my phone brand new for much less than you after contract perks (~$50). On the other hand you could pay to have a quality cell provider that actually carries phones and offers features such as roaming and actually has stores without hour waits and real customer service people. Either way, don't blame the 'execs' that you have to wait for the phone to become available used and on the cheap for you to flash to cricket because you're too cheap to pay a real provider or buy a new phone.

[kingsfan626]

All this *****ing and whining about how well Apple treats their customers better than HTC and Sprint? Do you all realize that going from the Apple Iphone to the Iphone 3G just meant a GPS and data update? In order to to make it sound like a new phone they had to resell it. The Mogul came out with no GPS and no Evdo Rev-A and instead of charging their customers again the following year for the updates they handing it out for FREE!!!!!

[berry_lthird]

Originally Posted by holo

FYI I pay sprint $50/mo the same price as your cricket plans for more minutes than I could ever use (1250) unlimited m2m, free 7pm nights/weekends, unlimited data, unlimited roaming (try that on cricket), unlimited ld, unlimited data roaming, unlimited texting, etc, so no, I'm not paying $360/yr more than you. I also probably got my phone brand new for much less than you after contract perks (~$50). On the other hand you could pay to have a quality cell provider that actually carries phones and offers features such as roaming and actually has stores without hour waits and real customer service people. Either way, don't blame the 'execs' that you have to wait for the phone to become available used and on the cheap for you to flash to cricket because you're too cheap to pay a real provider or buy a new phone.

So the corporate CEO's in question really need your defense against cheap bums like me?

Nothing their army of lawyers can't handle. So give it a rest.

And the $50 you pay a month: Is that the same for all Sprint customers, or just loyal customers like you?

[berry_lthird]

Originally Posted by kingsfan626

All this *****ing and whining about how well Apple treats their customers better than HTC and Sprint? Do you all realize that going from the Apple Iphone to the Iphone 3G just meant a GPS and data update? In order to to make it sound like a new phone they had to resell it. The Mogul came out with no GPS and no Evdo Rev-A and instead of charging their customers again the following year for the updates they handing it out for FREE!!!!!

Apple recognized an opportunity and struck. They've now doubled the sales of their original iPhone. GPS notwithstanding.

Let's hope HTC can say the same.

[holo]

Originally Posted by berry_lthird

So the corporate CEO's in question really need your defense against cheap bums like me?

Nothing their army of lawyers can't handle. So give it a rest.

And the $50 you pay a month: Is that the same for all Sprint customers, or just loyal customers like you?

heh... yeah I'm sure any of that is lawsuit worthy.... they don't need my defense but who cares? you shouldn't be bashing them needlessly....

and the plan is a deal called SERO which has just gone off into the sunset recently, but I'm sticking to my plan for a long time to come. either way sprint (or verizon or at&t) is worth at least twice what you pay cricket

[pvelliqtc]

The CEO's, Execs, etc... are just doing business. They gotta get rid of the current product before introducing the new product. Every industry does it... not just cell phone's. It would be stupid for them to start selling the two new phones now because no one would buy the remaining older models. I know some people will wait until the Diamond and Pro hit shelves and the older ones drop in price, and pick one older model up. Most people won't touch the old model if the new one's live up to the hype.

People like me are dealing with their older phone until a proper replacement pops up on the scene. Just breathe, homie. It's not going to be much longer.

As for iPhone... the first phone was bare-bones... It sucked. The new one isn't much better. I wouldn't compare HTC with Apple... At least HTC is making strides, imo

[berry_lthird]

Originally Posted by holo

heh... yeah I'm sure any of that is lawsuit worthy.... they don't need my defense but who cares? you shouldn't be bashing them needlessly....

and the plan is a deal called SERO which has just gone off into the sunset recently, but I'm sticking to my plan for a long time to come. either way sprint (or verizon or at&t) is worth at least twice what you pay cricket

First of all, although I'm a Cricket advocate, I'm not a Cricket loyalist. I just use their service. I currently have a Sprint account that I share with my Father. I also have several Verizon pre-paid accounts. I am carrier-agnostic. But without perks like SERO, Cricket gives me exceptional value. Other than that, they suck at the corporate level as well--hence my use of other carriers. As a hacker, you never know when you need an active account to test/activate an ESN with. Plus I would never willingly be stuck with just one carrier and no options.

So this is not an anti-Sprint thread, so much as it is an anti-HTC-get-your-head-out-of-your-***-and-offer-the-iPhone-some-REAL-competition-for-crissakes thread.

But shame on Sprint for all the cheap knockoffs that they've been pandering while a real champ like the Raphael/Touch Pro could be offered. *EDIT: And shame on them for removing this devices front-side camera! WTF? But then it's all about that corporate dollar in the end. And I think Sprint customers deserve better. I hear all the time how Sprint and Verizon customers have jumped ship to AT&T after playing with the iPhone, no matter how crippled the device is.

But these margins are obviously quite slim.

[Darkflame808]

The reason they do not want to release the phone yet is because the iPhone is launching.

When you decide to launch a product you have take a look at the market demand. If the world is raving about on device, to simply introduce another device will hurt sales because the focus is on the "one device".

A better approach is to see how this device works. Identify the faults then make your device better by correcting it. Now when the fad dies out you can come out of the woodworks with your device. Faster, more features and better tweaked for public consumption. It will be your turn to shine.

Why spend millions marketing a product that will be gravely overshadowed by another.

That's like trying to present your golden egg on the public access channel during the superbowl on superbowl Sunday.

Maybe sprint hacked all the other carriers and downloaded all the statistical data that suggests that the biggest month that will contain contracts that are expiring is September. School kids will want it for school. November brings biggest sales numbers and December brings gifted contracts.

That's my take.