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timothydonohue 01-11-2010 05:31 PM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
i got it to work, and was able to download an app from the marketplace and get it installed, but it didn't work (i didn't think it would, it was skymap). however, i did get facebook up and running, and posted to it from my phone. facebook online says 'posted from android mobile'. also got my contacts in from google sync without too much problem. it is a pain in the butt not having a 'u' on the hard keyboard, lol, seeing as how i almost always have to use it (see username).

i'm intrigued. may bite the bullet and get the n1

computhug 01-11-2010 05:36 PM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
In the 1/9 & 1/10 builds, battery status on my device says charging whether or not it's actually plugged in. Anyone else seeing this? Wondering if it has to do with my rom,I've got No2chem's fast-charge battery driver cooked in.

Makkonen, what rom are you using? If you think it's worth the trouble, I might flash the same one to eliminate some variables in testing.

Yibrushn 01-11-2010 06:31 PM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
It says charging for me as well (everyone i'm assuming) I don't think rom is an issue once you boot into android.

computhug 01-11-2010 06:43 PM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yibrushn (Post 1479698)
It says charging for me as well (everyone i'm assuming) I don't think rom is an issue once you boot into android.

Could be, but the functionality of the mic, backlight control, CDMA data, etc in Android are affected by their state in WinMo when HaRET is launched.

timothydonohue 01-11-2010 06:45 PM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
mine also says charging. battery indicator is completely screwed up, but you should still be able to use android. battery life is also rather diminished, but that may be because i think this is a linux shell running on top of winmo. it isn't as if you're booting into android, you're running haret.exe

Yibrushn 01-11-2010 07:00 PM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by timothydonohue (Post 1479761)
mine also says charging. battery indicator is completely screwed up, but you should still be able to use android. battery life is also rather diminished, but that may be because i think this is a linux shell running on top of winmo. it isn't as if you're booting into android, you're running haret.exe

So then if I disable manilla I should have more free memory in android? Testing :)

Not much difference. after disabling Manila I went from free memory in the high 30s to the really low 40s so 4 to 5 meg difference. I don't know if that's significant

hamagc 01-11-2010 07:55 PM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
i'm sure you've seen this already but just incase, basically this is just shy of an andriod rom. a wm rom that is stripped to nothing but the core to run haret.exe

care of:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=615560

Quote:

- I've created this nbh for fun. Dont think this will be an updated work. I just think that someone would play with it and so it is here. -
WARNING: This is not a WindowsMobile ROM. This has just WM core actually required to launch Android.
Do you want only to use android, and you don't want to boot in WM before booting Android? This is what you need!
How it works:
It checks for haret.exe in your sd. If it is here, it launchs it immediately. You will see Android booting in 5 sec +/-
If it is not here it shuts down automatically your phone. There will be no booting in WM anyway!
Why? Fast booting is due to lack of most drivers and extensions. You won't be able to do anything in WM part...

Happy playing.
http://rapidshare.com/files/33330880...t_NBH.rar.html
- OR -
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4SK097JC

demonstration http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/wink.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi2kPhxkfP8
(After basic HW initialization (30sec) you'll see android booting in 5 sec)

MrBogard 01-11-2010 09:33 PM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
I got Eclair booting, but I wouldn't call it working. It's so slow that I can't even unlock the screen. What could I be doing wrong? How much free space should I have on my SD card after the fact?

peterm20 01-11-2010 09:47 PM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
Make sure you're using the latest zimage/modules and it seems to get better as it runs.

b194331 01-11-2010 10:17 PM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
Hey Makkonen - you might want to add Bluetooth to the list of working/non-working on the first post of this thread.

makkonen 01-11-2010 11:50 PM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by computhug (Post 1479540)
In the 1/9 & 1/10 builds, battery status on my device says charging whether or not it's actually plugged in. Anyone else seeing this? Wondering if it has to do with my rom,I've got No2chem's fast-charge battery driver cooked in.

Makkonen, what rom are you using? If you think it's worth the trouble, I might flash the same one to eliminate some variables in testing.

I don't think it's worth the trouble. I haven't really heard of any problems stemming from ROM differences. The things that cause an effect when android boots are pretty low level initialization stuff, and little more. (I did have trouble with someone trying to get USB connecting, but they couldn't because their ROM didn't have an option for 'Enable Advanced Network Functionality' that they could turn off -- but that's an edge case, and not a big deal).

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBogard (Post 1480219)
I got Eclair booting, but I wouldn't call it working. It's so slow that I can't even unlock the screen. What could I be doing wrong? How much free space should I have on my SD card after the fact?

Make sure you've got the latest Eclair build from babijoee. The first few times it boots, it can have trouble like this; if it continues, I'm not sure. (I had the same problem on an older Eclair build -- it turned out it was polling the modem and timing out, so it would lock up for about 20 of every 25 seconds while waiting for a response.)

As for SD card, you should have at least 256mb free to make the data.img on your first boot. If you don't, it won't work. After it's created the data.img, you shouldn't have to worry about free space.

Quote:

Originally Posted by b194331 (Post 1480366)
Hey Makkonen - you might want to add Bluetooth to the list of working/non-working on the first post of this thread.

Done. Thanks.

Edit: Also, for those who are following this thread with a Diamond, and getting increasingly more frustrated by the progress, MrPippy has just posted a new build in his CDMA Diamond thread.

Imaginos 01-12-2010 06:47 AM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hamagc (Post 1479959)
i'm sure you've seen this already but just incase, basically this is just shy of an andriod rom. a wm rom that is stripped to nothing but the core to run haret.exe

care of:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=615560

Nice find! Perfect for a spart TP for playing with Droid.

pierocksmysocks 01-12-2010 11:24 AM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
So I've been able to run just about every app I've downloaded. Only major thing is I've noticed a stability issue when downloading an app. 60% +/- the time it causes android to crash and the phone restarts. Is there anything you could advise to increase the stability when downloading apps?

fabrijack 01-12-2010 11:35 AM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
I have kind of a newbie question, I started and ran the 1-8 build just fine. I am on Cellular South network and could not get data to work. wifi works fine, phone works fine if i start a call before booting with Haret.
My question is can I just replace the modules and zimage files on my card to update to 1-10 or do I need to wipe my card and start fresh?
Thanks,
Jack

wehweh 01-12-2010 12:09 PM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fabrijack (Post 1481592)
I have kind of a newbie question, I started and ran the 1-8 build just fine. I am on Cellular South network and could not get data to work. wifi works fine, phone works fine if i start a call before booting with Haret.
My question is can I just replace the modules and zimage files on my card to update to 1-10 or do I need to wipe my card and start fresh?
Thanks,
Jack

No need to kill everything. Just delete data.imgl the zImage, and modules and replace the zImage and modules with the new ones. The system'll write another data.img for you.

makkonen 01-12-2010 03:27 PM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
You shouldn't even need to kill data.img if you're just changing the zImage/modules. If you want to be extra safe, you can. (And if you're upgrading to a new system.sqsh, you probably should.)

And sometimes the data.img does get corrupted somehow (don't know why), and needs to be rebuilt... but you lose all your Android settings when you do that, so no sense in bothering unless you're having problems.

tankdogg 01-12-2010 08:37 PM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
Mic worked on mine by running haret while in a call (voicemail). Tested calls incoming/outgoing and both worked. Tested SMS ingoing/outgoing both with success. u key does not work but you can always use the onscreen keyboard.
Got wifi working good on this. Initially cdma data worked but after i connected then disconnected from my wifi home network it never reconnected to the sprint cdma data network. Before it had said 3g at the top right but not after I connected to wifi. Any fixes anyone knows of? Maybe I just will have to reboot everytime after wifi.
Overall awesome compared to other builds.
Thanks to everyone working on this.

wehweh 01-12-2010 09:34 PM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
What's the progress with the camera? I've looked around on the GSM thread and nobody seems to be mentioning it. Makkonen, could you give me a little info on what's actually wrong with cam/video?

MrBogard 01-12-2010 10:40 PM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by makkonen (Post 1480653)
Make sure you've got the latest Eclair build from babijoee. The first few times it boots, it can have trouble like this; if it continues, I'm not sure. (I had the same problem on an older Eclair build -- it turned out it was polling the modem and timing out, so it would lock up for about 20 of every 25 seconds while waiting for a response.)

Thanks, I cleared more space off my card and reinstalled everything and it appears to be working fine now. Well, as fine as it can work. I would love it if the camera was working properly. One of the things I want to play with more than anything in Android is Google Goggles. It's also very unstable, but I guess that's to be expected. I've tried installing Last.fm a handful of times and it's rebooted my phone every single time.

This is exciting stuff though. Is there any chance that we'll ever see an actual native rom for non-android devices though? This solution doesn't seem practical if we can't boot with more than 40 megabytes of free ram.

Oh, and two more newbie questions:

Firstly, is there a way to better control the backlight on the phone within android? I hate that the power button can't turn the screen off/on without rebooting the unit (apparently). And secondly.. aw I forget what secondly was. Guess that's all for now!

wehweh 01-12-2010 10:58 PM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBogard (Post 1483367)
Thanks, I cleared more space off my card and reinstalled everything and it appears to be working fine now. Well, as fine as it can work. I would love it if the camera was working properly. One of the things I want to play with more than anything in Android is Google Goggles. It's also very unstable, but I guess that's to be expected. I've tried installing Last.fm a handful of times and it's rebooted my phone every single time.

This is exciting stuff though. Is there any chance that we'll ever see an actual native rom for non-android devices though? This solution doesn't seem practical if we can't boot with more than 40 megabytes of free ram.

Oh, and two more newbie questions:

Firstly, is there a way to better control the backlight on the phone within android? I hate that the power button can't turn the screen off/on without rebooting the unit (apparently). And secondly.. aw I forget what secondly was. Guess that's all for now!

The end key sends the phone to sleep, which is what power did in winmo. The power key sends you back home and opens the task switcher when you hold it (yes, it's backwards, but hey...).

And there was actually a guy who tried to make a bootable rom out of this last week but ran into some problems. Why he'd do that at this stage with all these bugs is beyond me.

MrBogard 01-13-2010 02:39 AM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
Thanks! That cleared some stuff up.

Has anyone successfully installed the Last.fm app?

timothydonohue 01-13-2010 03:02 AM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBogard (Post 1483367)
Thanks, I cleared more space off my card and reinstalled everything and it appears to be working fine now. Well, as fine as it can work. I would love it if the camera was working properly. One of the things I want to play with more than anything in Android is Google Goggles. It's also very unstable, but I guess that's to be expected. I've tried installing Last.fm a handful of times and it's rebooted my phone every single time.

This is exciting stuff though. Is there any chance that we'll ever see an actual native rom for non-android devices though? This solution doesn't seem practical if we can't boot with more than 40 megabytes of free ram.

Oh, and two more newbie questions:

Firstly, is there a way to better control the backlight on the phone within android? I hate that the power button can't turn the screen off/on without rebooting the unit (apparently). And secondly.. aw I forget what secondly was. Guess that's all for now!


there's a bug (mentioned in this thread) that says that if you have auto-backlight control enabled in winmo, it's gonna be goofed in haret. disable auto-backlight, then you can control backlight in android

unvivid 01-13-2010 12:17 PM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by timothydonohue (Post 1484079)
there's a bug (mentioned in this thread) that says that if you have auto-backlight control enabled in winmo, it's gonna be goofed in haret. disable auto-backlight, then you can control backlight in android

You know, that makes me wonder how much of the Android "Bugs" we are running into are due to conflicts with WinMo. Who really knows what other bugs are being caused by WinMo setting a state for pretty much anything else?

peterm20 01-13-2010 02:00 PM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
Any word on a new kernel? The 1-10 update makes calling/data not work. For a little while it will give me some error when ever I try to make a call. (I do the calling *2 while booting android) and data doesn't seem to work at all.

foxmotoracer23 01-13-2010 02:01 PM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by computhug (Post 1479540)
In the 1/9 & 1/10 builds, battery status on my device says charging whether or not it's actually plugged in. Anyone else seeing this? Wondering if it has to do with my rom,I've got No2chem's fast-charge battery driver cooked in.

Makkonen, what rom are you using? If you think it's worth the trouble, I might flash the same one to eliminate some variables in testing.

Everyone will have this. Its another bug in android in that if you started android with the charger plugged in you would be able to charge the phone in android but if you had the phone unplugged and then booted android it would not allow you to charge the phone in android. So they made it where the phone thinks its constantly charging so you can charge the phone without first plugging it in.

CrossXcalibur 01-13-2010 02:21 PM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
Thank you so much for making the effort to do this.

makkonen 01-13-2010 03:27 PM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wehweh (Post 1483161)
What's the progress with the camera? I've looked around on the GSM thread and nobody seems to be mentioning it. Makkonen, could you give me a little info on what's actually wrong with cam/video?

I believe on the GSM side they've got the driver for the camera, but when they load it everything goes to hell. Unresolvable (so far) kernel panics or something.. That's just from memory, so I might be wrong about it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by unvivid (Post 1484664)
You know, that makes me wonder how much of the Android "Bugs" we are running into are due to conflicts with WinMo. Who really knows what other bugs are being caused by WinMo setting a state for pretty much anything else?

I think there's a whole lot of ugly stuff getting passed from Windows Mobile... but there's also a whole lot of stuff that needs to be passed from Windows Mobile in order for it to work at all at this point. Basically, it is what it is. At some point, we'll be able to replace WinMo with Android completely, and initialize everything on our own, but until then, WinMo is both a blessing and a curse.

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterm20 (Post 1484950)
Any word on a new kernel? The 1-10 update makes calling/data not work. For a little while it will give me some error when ever I try to make a call. (I do the calling *2 while booting android) and data doesn't seem to work at all.

Is anyone else having this problem? The 1-10 kernel didn't have any data/radio trouble for me. My latest working kernel doesn't have a working touchscreen, or I'd upload it.

Yibrushn 01-13-2010 03:50 PM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
I get data and radio with the 1-10, although the radio tends to cut in and out on calls.

artlan 01-13-2010 03:59 PM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by makkonen (Post 1485263)
Is anyone else having this problem? The 1-10 kernel didn't have any data/radio trouble for me. My latest working kernel doesn't have a working touchscreen, or I'd upload it.

The 1/10 kernel was working fine for me for data/radio - but I loaded the new XDandroid build from today and now I can't get radio/data at all

pierocksmysocks 01-13-2010 04:00 PM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBogard (Post 1484046)
Thanks! That cleared some stuff up.

Has anyone successfully installed the Last.fm app?

You know I've tried quite a few times now to get that app downloaded on to my handset. Each time it'll go about halfway then either lock up the handset, or crash it all together and power cycle it. Haven't had that issue with other apps...weird.

...Upon a few more tries looks like I was finally able to download it... Weird.

daganb 01-13-2010 04:52 PM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
The progress being made is amazing, been playing off and on with builds for the past 2-3 months and I would just like to thank all developers working hard towards the goal of a "flashable + bootable" installation of Android.

Is it running slow with many force close / wait errors? Yes. However another month or so and I feel confident that we can leave WinMo behind on our touch pro's.

Thank you all who are involved with this project.

Yibrushn 01-13-2010 05:33 PM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
anyone have a sure fire way to unlock the phone or answer calls? it's such a battle getting that slider to move over! especially with the newer 2.1 builds

pierocksmysocks 01-13-2010 06:10 PM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
Yeah... I press my phone hard key rather than using the slider...

Yibrushn 01-13-2010 06:39 PM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
LOL Thanks! I also found you gotta slide really fast with no hesitation. Still need to slide to unlock right? :)

pierocksmysocks 01-13-2010 06:44 PM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
I've been using the pattern to unlock lately. I'm easily amused, and it does what it's supposed to do... However, it does go a little wonky since the touchscreen is a bit more 'wild' with the newer kernel.

pierocksmysocks 01-13-2010 07:14 PM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
Just thought I'd add some input about audio apps like pandora and last.fm. Every time I run one or the other it'll get about 6 seconds into the song, then the phone reboots. Sigh. Oh well.

Yibrushn 01-13-2010 07:56 PM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
so running the latest XDANDROID release from this morning, does anyone get data working?

wehweh 01-13-2010 08:37 PM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
Got the newest XDANDROID, dunno about data, but everything else seems as solid as the last build.

EXCEPT FOR THE KEYMAPPING. It was perfect, I don't see why it's so wonky now...
Power management is flaky too. This thing is running kinda hot.

Final edit: way too bothersome for me to deal with. Not that random reboots, slowdowns, and being sent back to the nexus boot are NEW or anything, but this latest build takes it OVER 9000. It was so bad for me, I don't even feel like sticking with it to iron out the problems. I'm just going back to the old one. They changed the keymap man...

makkonen 01-13-2010 09:17 PM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yibrushn (Post 1485623)
anyone have a sure fire way to unlock the phone or answer calls? it's such a battle getting that slider to move over! especially with the newer 2.1 builds

I'm not sure about for answering calls, but when you just turn the phone on and the unlock screen comes up, you can just hit menu (aka home, aka top left on the capacitive pad) to unlock.

New touchscreen driver is up and running, and seems to be way less wild and flaky, which should help with the unlock problem. Buuuuuuut, I can neither get it correctly calibrated, nor get the calibration to stick after a reboot. So we're not quite there.

xcheljd 01-14-2010 02:24 AM

Re: Linux/Android on CDMA Touch Pro (RAPH800) - PRE-ALPHA (not yet usable)
 
Hey, in the startup.txt, change the "lcd.density=160" to ""lcd.density=240" touchscreen works better for me after i did that.

I'm was running donut and now im using eclair and it works great. :headbang:


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