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mswlogo 11-30-2009 12:56 PM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
Yes there is. Called GPSProxy. I have no personal experience with it or how to set it up.

Here is some information on it. No promises it works, it has been listed as an alternative to GPSGate.

http://www.malsingmaps.com/wiki/inde...p_GPSProxy_2.x

rdcrds 11-30-2009 02:38 PM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
should not have listened to this guy messed up my gpsgate now have re download it again agggrh

SporkLover 11-30-2009 02:45 PM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mswlogo (Post 1372966)
I have no idea why people need this. I don't find the TP2 any different than Diamond or Voque for Car navigation. If GeoCaching needs something better than so be it.

But I think folks are confusing different forms of "Lag". Someone had the "normal" lag issue from the crappy COM Port emulator (that GPSGate deals with or Good Apps that don't use COM ports) And found that "Driver" on XDA. It was not developed for the TP2 and there may be issues with other devices. Or people wanted something better than standard GPS Behavior. I really think you do not need this driver. The developers main phone is a DIAMOND. Diamond never had an issue with laggy GPS (at least the CDMA one didn't).

TP2 GPS out of the Box works great.

Also this "Driver" on XDA is a COM Port Emulator and effectively may do the same as GPSGate which is eliminate the need for Windows Mobile GPS COM port emulator.
The modified driver I posted was a free alternative to GPSGate. It's a little more than an emulator; it also includes software generated position updates (instead of polling the GPS chip again) to smooth out map display movement and scrolling.

Regardless of whether it was developed by a Diamond owner, it is developed for the WM platform and there are plenty of users on XDA with WVGA devices that use this software package.

The only strikes it really has against it IMO is the setup doesn't have the polish of a commercial solution.

mswlogo 11-30-2009 03:25 PM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SporkLover (Post 1373997)
The modified driver I posted was a free alternative to GPSGate. It's a little more than an emulator; it also includes software generated position updates (instead of polling the GPS chip again) to smooth out map display movement and scrolling.

Regardless of whether it was developed by a Diamond owner, it is developed for the WM platform and there are plenty of users on XDA with WVGA devices that use this software package.

The only strikes it really has against it IMO is the setup doesn't have the polish of a commercial solution.
I don't doubt that the what you posted may work as an alternative to GPSGate.
My point of this thread is HTC/Qualcomm didn't suddenly get it wrong with TP2.
It behaves perfectly normal and the same as the last 3 generations or so.

If an update every 8ft while walking, and an update every 200ft while doing 60 mph isn't good enough for you, have at it.

And if folks have not managed to get GPSGate working (free trial) they will probably have a more difficult time getting some of these less polished alternatives working. How many of the 6 downloads do you actually have to install now?

And I don't like seeing it pushed as "the solution" that fixed the broken TP2 chip set. Because it isn't broken (any worse than last 3 generations).

I think if you update any faster, all you do is chew up more battery/cpu/resources for very little gain in practice.

But if it's the $23.00 that scares folks go for it. I agree there are other solutions and I posted the EASIEST for folks having trouble. I added GPSProxy too to the top post which I believe has been around for a long time. I've not personally used it. GPSGate did it first eons ago and it has worked great ever since.

I also want folks to realize that updating 10 times a second is not needed for walking or driving. If your walking and do a sudden turn; which is better, an incorrect interpolation or waiting for the next true update. Some Nav apps have their own interpolation/animation as well.

Again I think folks are confusing "Normal 2 Second Lag" (which is not a problem) with the misconfigured GPS that gives excessive lag. It so happens the "Driver" you pointed out main purpose is to reduce the 2 Second Lag and as a side effect can do what GPSGate does. I don't know how well it does it either. As I can run several GPS apps with GPSGate and it cruises along just fine.

BooDaddy 11-30-2009 03:34 PM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mswlogo (Post 1374143)
I don't doubt that the what you posted may work as an alternative to GPSGate.
My point of this thread is HTC/Qualcomm didn't suddenly get it wrong with TP2.
It behaves perfectly normal and the same as the last 3 generations or so.

If an update every 8ft while walking, and an update every 200ft while doing 60 mph isn't good enough for you, have at it.

And if folks have not managed to get GPSGate working (free trial) they will probably have a more difficult time getting some of these less polished alternatives working. How many of the 6 downloads do you actually have to install now?

And I don't like seeing it pushed as "the solution" that fixed the broken TP2 chip set. Because it isn't broken (any worse than last 3 generations).

I think if you update any faster, all you do is chew up more battery/cpu/resources for very little gain in practice.

But if it's the $23.00 that scares folks go for it. I agree there are other solutions and I posted the EASIEST for folks having trouble. I added GPSProxy too to the top post which I believe has been around for a long time. I've not personally used it. GPSGate did it first eons ago and it has worked great ever since.

I also want folks to realize that updating 10 times a second is not needed for walking or driving. If your walking and do a sudden turn; which is better, an incorrect interpolation or waiting for the next true update. Some Nav apps have their own interpolation/animation as well.

Again I think folks are confusing "Normal 2 Second Lag" (which is not a problem) with the misconfigured GPS that gives excessive lag. It so happens the "Driver" you pointed out main purpose is to reduce the 2 Second Lag and as a side effect can do what GPSGate does. I don't know how well it does it either. As I can run several GPS apps with GPSGate and it cruises along just fine.
Not everyone agrees with you that a low resolution polling frequency is "suitable" for everyone. Just because you think that the slow resolution is OK for your needs, doesnt mean that everyone else who wants better performance is wrong.

mswlogo 11-30-2009 03:41 PM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BooDaddy (Post 1374176)
Not everyone agrees with you that a low resolution polling frequency is "suitable" for everyone. Just because you think that the slow resolution is OK for your needs, doesnt mean that everyone else who wants better performance is wrong.
That's fine. But let's not call the TP2 ChipSet suddenly defective (As some threads try to indicate). The "low resolution polling" has not changed.

But seriously. Walking along and getting an update every 8 feet isn't fast enough?

I'm just trying to seperate the "Nit Picky" folks from "Total Lost Newbie" folks and I think they are blurred together. And most newbies will be plenty happy with the "normal" update rate. I have never seen it mentioned as a problem since the mogul. Perhaps it started in the TP forums and their are more nit picky users there.

I never even bothered to look how fast iGuidance was working on any phone until now, because it just seemed to work fine.

If folks have set things up correctly and say TP works can TP2 doesn't all I can think of it's the real estate of the screen and perhaps even video drivers and the Nav application itself that is showing more the difference than the GPS update rate which has not changed.

mswlogo 11-30-2009 03:49 PM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
I just chatted with a co-worker that is a walking encyclopedia.
The GPS system is limited to 1 update every second.

SporkLover 11-30-2009 05:48 PM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mswlogo (Post 1374143)
I don't doubt that the what you posted may work as an alternative to GPSGate.
My point of this thread is HTC/Qualcomm didn't suddenly get it wrong with TP2.
It behaves perfectly normal and the same as the last 3 generations or so.

If an update every 8ft while walking, and an update every 200ft while doing 60 mph isn't good enough for you, have at it.

And if folks have not managed to get GPSGate working (free trial) they will probably have a more difficult time getting some of these less polished alternatives working. How many of the 6 downloads do you actually have to install now?

And I don't like seeing it pushed as "the solution" that fixed the broken TP2 chip set. Because it isn't broken (any worse than last 3 generations).

I think if you update any faster, all you do is chew up more battery/cpu/resources for very little gain in practice.

But if it's the $23.00 that scares folks go for it. I agree there are other solutions and I posted the EASIEST for folks having trouble. I added GPSProxy too to the top post which I believe has been around for a long time. I've not personally used it. GPSGate did it first eons ago and it has worked great ever since.

I also want folks to realize that updating 10 times a second is not needed for walking or driving. If your walking and do a sudden turn; which is better, an incorrect interpolation or waiting for the next true update. Some Nav apps have their own interpolation/animation as well.

Again I think folks are confusing "Normal 2 Second Lag" (which is not a problem) with the misconfigured GPS that gives excessive lag. It so happens the "Driver" you pointed out main purpose is to reduce the 2 Second Lag and as a side effect can do what GPSGate does. I don't know how well it does it either. As I can run several GPS apps with GPSGate and it cruises along just fine.
You're to pigeon holed into your own opinion. Every post doesnt require a two page dissertation as to the merits of GPSgate, and how you aren't sure how other packages that you have never used works.

Really, maybe 1 percent of your end users on this forum care why there is lag when they fire up Garmin, the other 99 percent just want to fix it. GPS gate is wonderful $25 solution. The Xda developed modified GPS driver + emulator is another solution. It overcomes the limitation of GPS hardware polling with a software solution.

I don't push it as THE answer, just like I wouldn't push GPSGate, its just another solution out there.

And of the five downloads, all you need is a 1.37 or 1.38 software. If you use GarminXT then you need QueStub. Not really that hard. If you have any other questions you can always ask the developer who is still very active in that thread.

mswlogo 11-30-2009 06:09 PM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SporkLover (Post 1374676)
You're to pigeon holed into your own opinion. Every post doesnt require a two page dissertation as to the merits of GPSgate, and how you aren't sure how other packages that you have never used works.

Really, maybe 1 percent of your end users on this forum care why there is lag when they fire up Garmin, the other 99 percent just want to fix it. GPS gate is wonderful $25 solution. The Xda developed modified GPS driver + emulator is another solution. It overcomes the limitation of GPS hardware polling with a software solution.

I don't push it as THE answer, just like I wouldn't push GPSGate, its just another solution out there.

And of the five downloads, all you need is a 1.37 or 1.38 software. If you use GarminXT then you need QueStub. Not really that hard. If you have any other questions you can always ask the developer who is still very active in that thread.
I wrote 2 sentences on GPSGate in that last response. Way less than what you just wrote. I really don't care what you use. But I think folks are confusing the topic. I used GPSGate because it is the easiest to setup and free to try. Once you have it working you buy it or hunt for a cheaper solution. That's why I started with GoogleMaps first, starting with the simplest first.

And in my own personal opinion poll rates faster than 1 second are ridiculous.

rdcrds 12-01-2009 02:32 AM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mswlogo (Post 1372547)
So many posts about GPS lag when I don't believe there is any lag on any ROM.

Lots of confusion out there so I thought I’d take a stab at this.

Some applications know how to use the Window Mobile GPS API (Like Google Maps) and some applications MUST use a com port (e.g. iGuidance). The Window Mobile COM Port Emulator (which tries to do what GPSGate does) is what causes the lag. It's that application called "Extenal GPS" DON'T use it, don't use the COM port it's set to for anything, it's the root of all evil.

********* Setup Quick GPS (Optional) *********************************************
First let’s get QuickGPS set up.
It's not set automatic update by default.
QuickGPS is not required but it will help for a quick lock for all GPS applications.

Start QuickGPS
Goto Menu Options
Uncheck - Remind Me.
Check - Auto Download when data expires.
Don't Care - Download on Active Sync (I have it off ActiveSync doesn't need anything extra)
Check - Exit QuickGPS after Download.

As soon as you click ok, it will download and exit (if it's out of date and should be out of date on a hard reset)
You should never have to run QuickGPS again (until you hard reset).

**************** Setup Google Maps (Simple) *************************************

Let's get GoogleMaps going. Basic steps are DO NOTHING !!!

You want Google Maps to use "Windows Managed" (Default), that is the Windows Mobile API.
Don't change to a com port.

Note: Don't use the “External GPS” application in Settings. It's JUNK !! There is NO COM Port for the actual GPS.

When you first start GoogleMaps the GPS is OFF !!!

You should still get a lock (on Sprint anyway). That is from the towers and cannot be used for navigation.
You will see a big circle around the dot when your lock is from towers only (Also called GPS assist).
Don't panic if you don't get a Tower Based lock. It's nice to have but not required.
But a satellite lock will take longer without it.

Turn on the GPS from the menu (Use GPS).

You will see how many Satellites are locked (constantly) and there should be no lag once it locks.
It may take some time to acquire but it's generally very quick if you already had a tower lock.

******** Setup GPSGate (Only for Applications that Require COM Ports) *****************

Now for GPSGate (only required for apps that MUST use a COM port):

Down load and install http://franson.com/gpsgate/download.asp

Windows Mobile / Pocket PC download GpsGate v2.6 build 326 for Pocket PC / Windows Mobile (1.5 MB)
Works on Pocket PC 2002, 2003, WM5 Pocket PC, WM6 Professional and Classic. Touch screen is required.
14 days free trial
Published 23. May, 2008

On Input Tab choose "WM GPS" and then Click Open. That is the Windows Mobile GPS API. Do not use any com port for input.
On Output Tab choose "Virtual COM" then click Add and choose COM3.
Leave GPSGate Running (it's running as long as you didn't click Exit) !!

GPSGate is $23.00 but there may be other free apps that work as well.

You can also check out GPSProxy (I have no experience with this or know how to set it up).
No promises GPSProxy works.
See http://www.malsingmaps.com/wiki/inde...p_GPSProxy_2.x

***************** Setup Navigation Applications ***********************************

Then configure iGuidance, TomTom etc. to use COM3.

GPSGate must be running before you start your navigation software every time.

Don’t forget to exit GPSGate when you are done or your battery will drain fast.
To exit, click the startup icon again and a menu will pop up to exit.

Other navigation apps like Sprint Navigation know how to use the Windows Mobile GPS API (no com port and GPSGate is not required). If your application requires a COM port use GPSGate and set it up correctly and you should be fine.

**************** Summary for GPS Settings for different applications ******************

Google Maps (Set GPS to Windows Managed - Default) Don't forget to set Use GPS too.
Garmin XT (Set GPS to Intermediate Driver) Thanks Swoope
iGuidance (Set GPS to COM3 - via GPSGate)
External GPS (Don't use it or the COM port it's set to, it's default is COM4).
GPSGate (Input WM GPS) (Output COM3) Only use if your application requires COM ports.
QuickGPS (Set Auto Download and Auto Exit On all other options Off) This is optional and only effects lock speed.
Sprint Navigation (Do nothing it defaults to WM GPS API).

************************************************** ****************************

Oh and that whole QPST GPS configuration thing is a complete rat hole (at least on a Sprint phone).

I hope this helps some folks.


THERE SITE IS MESSED UP CAN SOMEONE PLEASE!!!! UPLOAD THIS CAB GpsGate v2.6 build 326 for Pocket PC / Windows Mobile THERE WEBSITE GIVES YOU A VERSION NOW THAT DOES NOT WORK I WILL GIVE THANKS FOR IT :)

Dr.8820 12-01-2009 02:40 AM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
some of you geekers need to get it together. the op is just trying to help. if you have a better way, please post it or stay out this thread.

BooDaddy 12-01-2009 02:44 AM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr.8820 (Post 1376182)
some of you geekers need to get it together. the op is just trying to help. if you have a better way, please post it or stay out this thread.
Ok...so mote it be....

heres what worked for me:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=99451

Didnt have to use GPSGate or any other 3rd party app. Now I havent used my GPS much today so I cant say about battery life of the registry tweaks, but the GPS is noticeably less laggy.

rdcrds 12-01-2009 02:51 AM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
CAB GpsGate v2.6 build 326 for Pocket PC / PLEASE ill thank you forever if you post this cab there site gives you the CE verison which is not good i need this cab thanks in advance

BooDaddy 12-01-2009 02:58 AM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
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try this cab. I just grabbed it from their site. See the attachment. I

rdcrds 12-01-2009 03:02 AM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
that looks like the one i downloaded it says the build but it is not it there site is messed up but thanks.I need the right one someone PLEASE who has it post it thanks

rdcrds 12-01-2009 03:04 AM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
IT IS the same one i had which does not work i need the CAB GpsGate v2.6 build 326 for Pocket PC and it is not the one listed on there site that is the CE even though it says it is not pisses me off bigtime :)

rdcrds 12-01-2009 04:07 AM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
Anyone have GpsGate v2.6 build 326 for Pocket PC / Windows Mobile version V2.6.0.312 the website says it but when you download it it's the CE and does not work well i could not get it to work any help? i got a key also for full past the 14 days :))

BooDaddy 12-01-2009 04:13 AM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
Have you tried google searching? or searching over at XDA or even on here?

rdcrds 12-01-2009 10:10 AM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
I Know how to search :) and it is not around.There are links that cliam it is but it is the CE

rdcrds 12-01-2009 02:11 PM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
still nobody? i need this badly GpsGate v2.6 build 326 for Pocket PC / Windows Mobile version V2.6.0.312

will give many thanks that stupid website of theres gives you the CE one and does not work for me.

or at least a working gpsgate i have the key for past 14 days.

rdcrds 12-01-2009 03:14 PM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
well if anyone has it and uses gpsgate and works please upload the cab

rdcrds 12-01-2009 10:04 PM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
you guys with the gps gate mind sharing the one that works? cause the website one i can't get the settings the op lists on page 1

mswlogo 12-01-2009 10:25 PM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rdcrds (Post 1378367)
you guys with the gps gate mind sharing the one that works? cause the website one i can't get the settings the op lists on page 1
Ok I added the CAB to the opening post. It is a trial.

Also read the update I just added at the top. It appears to me there may be some differences between WM 6.1 and WM 6.5.x

railslave 12-01-2009 10:43 PM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
*********************** UPDATE Dec 12, 2009 ***********************************

had to look at the calander to make sure i didnt miss 11 days.................lol

on the other hand, great info, i was wondering why google maps wasnt working on the dot w/gps..(didnt check use gps) thanks again!!!

homamk 12-01-2009 10:44 PM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
wait so sprint navagation doesnt need this to speed it up. so what can i do to speed up sprint nav. well i actually have tele nav new one without the sprint logos and stuff. its just tele nav. it works great and does street names but there is a huge lag! is there anything i can do to make it better? i also have igo 8 and that didnt need any messing with the gps settings cause its really fast. but tele nav is horriblly sloww. and there is no setting for gps.

any help would be great.

rdcrds 12-01-2009 11:17 PM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mswlogo (Post 1378424)
Ok I added the CAB to the opening post. It is a trial.

Also read the update I just added at the top. It appears to me there may be some differences between WM 6.1 and WM 6.5.x


FOR THE LOVE OF GOD LOL i know how to go to the website and download it BUT THE WEBSITE NOW HAS THE WRONG VERSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHAT you have listed now on page 1 it is the CE and does not have a Virtual com it has a virtual com port listed in output but it is the same thing i have.Unless you say to use the virtual com port and then have to add a com 3 cause there is none ill try that and see

thanks.WHy can't you just upload your cab i thought that is what i was asking a few times :) the one on page one is the CE!!

railslave 12-01-2009 11:36 PM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rdcrds (Post 1378582)
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD LOL i know how to go to the website and download it BUT THE WEBSITE NOW HAS THE WRONG VERSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHAT you have listed now on page 1 it is the CE and does not have a Virtual com it has a virtual com port listed in output but it is the same thing i have.Unless you say to use the virtual com port and then have to add a com 3 cause there is none ill try that and see

thanks.WHy can't you just upload your cab i thought that is what i was asking a few times :) the one on page one is the CE!!

the one on the site is ver 2.6. try this one 2.5

mswlogo 12-02-2009 12:17 AM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by railslave (Post 1378652)
the one on the site is ver 2.6. try this one 2.5
You guys need to read. I posted I added the 2.6 Cab and updated the opening post with it attached.

railslave 12-02-2009 12:20 AM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mswlogo (Post 1378757)
You guys need to read. I posted I added the 2.6 Cab and updated the opening post with it attached.

cool you fixed the date. you posted the site with 2.6, i posted 2.5(trying to help someone who wanted it)

mswlogo 12-02-2009 12:28 AM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by railslave (Post 1378767)
cool you fixed the date. you posted the site with 2.6, i posted 2.5(trying to help someone who wanted it)
I posted the site AND I attached the 2.6 cab. Oh and I fixed the date.

railslave 12-02-2009 12:41 AM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mswlogo (Post 1378789)
I posted the site AND I attached the 2.6 cab. Oh and I fixed the date.
personally i have no problem with the gps...... i wouldnt use gps gate(just posted ver 2.5 for someone) now i did have a problem before i hit use gps on google. right now im running waze (www.waze.com) that seems to work great. every once in awhile ill get lag.(not too bad)

heres a cool speedo app(old) that works nice

BooDaddy 12-02-2009 01:02 AM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by railslave (Post 1378828)
personally i have no problem with the gps...... i wouldnt use gps gate(just posted ver 2.5 for someone) now i did have a problem before i hit use gps on google. right now im running waze (www.waze.com) that seems to work great. every once in awhile ill get lag.(not too bad)

heres a cool speedo app(old) that works nice
Railslave,
You should post a thread in the apps section for waze and spread the word! It looks cool. Im giving it a download now. I clicked the thanks button for suggesting it.

railslave 12-02-2009 01:10 AM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BooDaddy (Post 1378908)
Railslave,
You should post a thread in the apps section for waze and spread the word! It looks cool. Im giving it a download now. I clicked the thanks button for suggesting it.

will do.............

edit, already posted. i found it deep in the search cave lol

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread...highlight=waze

Kane3162 12-06-2009 02:30 PM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
sadly your first post isnt true...

hard reset, stock Sprint, nothing modified, installed Google Maps... Use GPS...

NADA... doesnt work... at all... complete crap...

did the following as posted in another post:
Code:
(Tested & provided by DGH)
A. With Advanced config nel menu GPS
disable A-GPS
disable GPS logging
logfile name must be empty
old logfile name must be empty
maximum size of logfile must be 0
delete the files :
\windows\GPSLogFile.txt and \windows\GPSLogFileBack.txt
 
With those changes car usage will be quite perfect
 
B. Then edit registry
Under: HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\
Drivers\GpsOneDevice\PollInterval -> 100 (default is 1000)
Drivers\InputBufferSize -> 512 (default is 4096)
Drivers\OutputBufferSize -> 512 (default is 4096)
Drivers\SleepOnNoData -> 100 (default is 1000)
Multiplexer\MaxBufferSize -> 512 (by default not present, you have to create it)
With those tweaks pedestrian usage will be much better but not perfect.
and it now works perfectly!


sadly this is NOT only a problem with other GPS Apps... even Sprint Navigation has issues sometimes...

KrazyKevin76 12-20-2009 07:39 PM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
Yeah, I guess the biggest deal here is what people accept as OK. From the TP to the TP2, GPS has sucked on both. If you have ever used a Garmin or in car nav system, you will see what most are saying here. I can't argue how fast the GPS sats update or pole, or how the stand alone systems make it with no lag. I also understand I own a phone, and not a handheld GPS. So I'm not bashing HTC or the service. But, still I don't understand why from the factory that the lag can't be delt with and fixed so to be usable.

Going down the road at 60mph, 200ft is NOT acceptable. 200ft is is 2/3rds of a freakin football field. Again, this is not a deal breaker, but is aggrevating. Using our in car system, it is dead on, to a T. So I know its possible. Im gonna try Kanes suggestins above and see how that goes.

And sorry OP, I got a chuckle from the first post. Title of thread "How to configure GPS for no Lag". Step 1: Google Maps: DO NOTHING!!! Thought it was kinda funny. Thanks for the tips though.

psiphi 12-28-2009 05:30 PM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
Okay, what version of Garmin XT are folks running? I suspect some are running Version 4, others Version 5... I found the Version 4 was every bit as fast as a Nuvi... After I upgraded to 5, I found a slight lag, but not enough to matter...

sonificator 12-30-2009 02:36 PM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
I am running Garmin XT 5 on latest NRG ROM. A couple of ROMs ago I installed/configured GPSGate per instructions, and it "seemed" like it was helping a bit with the lag. However, on the past two ROM revisions I am simply unabable to launch Garmin if GPSGate is running - any ideas?

Has anyone had good luck with XDA driver fix?

mswlogo 12-30-2009 02:53 PM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
I think the Garmin issues are a different problem and complicating things a bit here. I see a lot of folks claiming they can't run Garmin at all on various ROMs.

I finally bothered to look at how much "Program" memory is being used and left by various applications.

iGuidance goes from 63mb free to 57mb free not bad for such a large app.
Opera 10 Beta 2 goes from 62mb free to 32mb free (holy crap what a piggy).

I'm curious what Garmin 4 vs 5 uses. I suspect it's one of the piggies and the TP2 may be low on resources and swapping a lot and is causing Garmin to lag.

There has been quite a few threads about leaking memory too on various ROMs.

mswlogo 12-30-2009 03:01 PM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
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Originally Posted by KrazyKevin76 (Post 1427555)

Going down the road at 60mph, 200ft is NOT acceptable. 200ft is is 2/3rds of a freakin football field. Again, this is not a deal breaker, but is aggrevating. Using our in car system, it is dead on, to a T. So I know its possible. Im gonna try Kanes suggestins above and see how that goes.
Try driving down a football field at 60mph. It will take you only about 3 seconds.

Car systems may animate graphics between updates better than some WM Nav software.

I never had a problem with update rate with Mapolis or iGuidance on the 6 WM phones (older ones with external GPS of course).

You'd be surprised how large an exit ramp is if you actually measured it.

iGuidance gives me plenty of warning on the highway or back roads on the TP2.
I usually slow down for the exit when it tells me :)

The GPS system itself is limited to 1 update per second. But there are GPS units with compasses and accelerometers that interpolate. But even an update once every 2 seconds seems to work fine for me.

hindibuff 03-30-2010 03:45 AM
Re: How to configure your GPS for No Lag !!
 
Here is something I did back in the TP1 days and TomTom that had worked. I will try it here tomorrow to see how it helps with Garmin on TP2.

On the Com port in GPS settings, change baud rate to at least tripe i.e. 19200. See if that helps. Default is too low.

Before you start flaming, GPS chip DOES have a COM port and windows API is simply sharing it. Ever thought about the effects of paralleling a Serial connection. You simply cannot. So Windows is using interrupts. Increasing the baud rate should help!

Before I eat my own words, I just changed the setting on my phone and will try it out tomorrow.

Also, for the second try, change Garmin to COM4 if the first setting alone does not work. Dont worry, it wont make any difference. USing API or COM4 means same thing as long as you dont use too many apps that use GPS chip at the same time, which I doubt anyone does.

Good luck and please report any feedback.


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