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illwafer 10-24-2009 10:02 PM

Will the Touch Pro 2 be short lived? My personal dilemma.
 
I'm having issues with my Touch Pro 1, and it is under manufacturer's warranty for another week. I should be receiving my 3rd one in a week on Tuesday, and I expect the same issues as with all my other phones (you know the drill).

I was offered the TP2 for $75 + 2 year agreement. I tried very hard to get a free replacement with multiple stores and CS, but it just ain't happening for me (maybe because I'm on SERO).

Anyway, after talking with a lot of Sprint reps, I get the feeling the TP2 is going to be quickly discontinued. One of the stores' managers said that his store will never carry the TP2. Another store employee said his store (a large one) voted on whether or not to carry it, and it was split down the middle because of how horrible the TP1 was for returns.

Whether or not the TP2 is good or not, it may already be doomed due to its predecessor.

So my dilemma is should I snatch up the TP2 now while I have the $75 deal (plus I have to give back my old TP1 in exchange so can't resell), or do I wait it out and stay with the TP1 until the smoke clears.

Any thoughts?

Spiderman313 10-24-2009 10:05 PM

Re: Will the Touch Pro 2 be short lived? My personal dilemma.
 
Take it. Its only 75 bucks.

tmwes 10-24-2009 10:05 PM

Re: Will the Touch Pro 2 be short lived? My personal dilemma.
 
I must have been very lucky with my TP1. Got it the day it came out via VZW, and never had a single issue right up until the day I sold it on eBay. Love the TP2 even more (even though I'm selling it on eBay to get a Droid)

apristel 10-24-2009 10:08 PM

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I don't see this phone being phased out soon. Once there is the official 6.5 update i'm sure it will be one of the better smartphones for sale.. It already is imo. This thing has like zero of the problems that the tp1 had.

So my advice to you is to look at your money situation..if its cool for you, this phone is well worth the $75 you'd have to pay. Although there were how many people who got that same "deal" but for free.

Is Sprint considering this your upgrade?

illwafer 10-24-2009 10:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by apristel (Post 1262124)

Is Sprint considering this your upgrade?

Yeah, it would be my upgrade plus 2 year commitment. I don't care about the commitment since I'll stay with Sprint forever as long as my plan stays, but I don't want to sell myself short and have to wait for another year for a new phone if this one is going to have a short "lifespan".

apristel 10-24-2009 10:16 PM

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Well then I'd tell them that you want to keep you old TP is its your upgrade..thats for sure.

1454 10-24-2009 10:18 PM

Re: Will the Touch Pro 2 be short lived? My personal dilemma.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by illwafer (Post 1262133)
Yeah, it would be my upgrade plus 2 year commitment. I don't care about the commitment since I'll stay with Sprint forever as long as my plan stays, but I don't want to sell myself short and have to wait for another year for a new phone if this one is going to have a short "lifespan".

Have you heard this from multiple sources or something? Everything i have read is that they are confusing the Pro with the Pro2. I would confirm with more than just one store if I were you.

illwafer 10-24-2009 10:23 PM

Re: Will the Touch Pro 2 be short lived? My personal dilemma.
 
I've talked in depth to 2 different Sprint-owned stores in San Diego. The one I was at today is the city's main one (about 30 people working easily). I've also talked to a 3rd party store.

They've all led me to believe that they will not be carrying the TP2. The large store said they actually voted on whether to carry it or not (I didn't know they had a choice), and so far they will not be carrying it. The other store straight up said they will not be carrying it, and the third party store said they have no plans to carry it.

EGOvoruhk 10-24-2009 10:24 PM

Re: Will the Touch Pro 2 be short lived? My personal dilemma.
 
$75 is a rip off, considering they're supposed to be giving free upgrades to the Pro2 if you're replacing your phone. Provided you have insurrance, or still under warranty, which yours is

themuffinman 10-24-2009 10:34 PM

Re: Will the Touch Pro 2 be short lived? My personal dilemma.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EGOvoruhk (Post 1262152)
$75 is a rip off, considering they're supposed to be giving free upgrades to the Pro2 if you're replacing your phone. Provided you have insurrance, or still under warranty, which yours is

Regardless of them giving tp2 as replacements there are people who paid full pop for a tp2 and you are saying $75 is a ripoff?

chong67 10-24-2009 11:54 PM

Re: Will the Touch Pro 2 be short lived? My personal dilemma.
 
My TP2 will be short live too. If HD2 comes to Sprint, I will get it.

redz1234 10-25-2009 12:00 AM

Re: Will the Touch Pro 2 be short lived? My personal dilemma.
 
HD2 doesnt have an ext keyboard...

I love my TP2. Paid $250 on a 3yr contract with Telus. I had no problems with 3 yrs as my plan is amazing.


- ReDz

chong67 10-25-2009 12:10 AM

Re: Will the Touch Pro 2 be short lived? My personal dilemma.
 
I have hardly use the keyboard at all. TP2 is a brick. I still love my TP2, but its just too thick.

rawdikrik 10-25-2009 12:16 AM

Re: Will the Touch Pro 2 be short lived? My personal dilemma.
 
OK.. Since it seems no one is really being helpful.

You must look into the future of devices. Windows Mobile 7 devices should start appearing by Q2 of 2010. These devices will all be VERY advanced in terms of current hardware. The HD2 just barely scratches the surface of that hardware with the Capacitive screen, 1Ghz Snapdragon and multitouch. By Q2, the HD 2 will be a bottom of the barrel WinPhone7 Device.

Along the same lines, I feel that WVGA is going to be the screen size of most upscale phones from now on (including the HD2). So that means there should be plenty f programs and mods and packages that could be retroffited to the TP2.

Personally... I wouldnt do it. Buy a TP2 out of pocket and keep ur upgrade for the middle of next year. One word: TEGRA.

apristel 10-25-2009 12:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rawdikrik (Post 1262424)
OK.. Since it seems no one is really being helpful.


I think we all helped. :)

wesd 10-25-2009 12:30 AM

Re: Will the Touch Pro 2 be short lived? My personal dilemma.
 
I am led to believe the TP2 is going to have a short lifespan. First, there is talk on the 'net of the TP3, basically a HD2 with a keyboard. Plus, as noted above, WM 7 will be out next year. The Tp2 is basically a TP1 with the correct form factor. Camera and processor are very similar.

I'm going to the TP2, but when I can buy one on Ebay for $299 or less. They are down to $380 now from $430 last week. I would wait for the Droid but not sure if Sprint will get that one or not.

erick10 10-25-2009 12:31 AM

Re: Will the Touch Pro 2 be short lived? My personal dilemma.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by illwafer (Post 1262111)
I'm having issues with my Touch Pro 1, and it is under manufacturer's warranty for another week. I should be receiving my 3rd one in a week on Tuesday, and I expect the same issues as with all my other phones (you know the drill).

I was offered the TP2 for $75 + 2 year agreement. I tried very hard to get a free replacement with multiple stores and CS, but it just ain't happening for me (maybe because I'm on SERO).

Anyway, after talking with a lot of Sprint reps, I get the feeling the TP2 is going to be quickly discontinued. One of the stores' managers said that his store will never carry the TP2. Another store employee said his store (a large one) voted on whether or not to carry it, and it was split down the middle because of how horrible the TP1 was for returns.

Whether or not the TP2 is good or not, it may already be doomed due to its predecessor.

So my dilemma is should I snatch up the TP2 now while I have the $75 deal (plus I have to give back my old TP1 in exchange so can't resell), or do I wait it out and stay with the TP1 until the smoke clears.

Any thoughts?

I say you should go for it for only $75. Even if the HD2 comes out, just sell your Touch Pro 2 on ebay. Im pretty sure they will give you more than $200 easily. Then just buy the HD2 if it comes out. So let me break it up for you. Lets say you get $250 for the Touch Pro 2 on ebay. $250 - $75= $175 profit. Then lets say the HD2 will be $550. $550 plus tax - $175= $375 not including tax. So you might be getting the HD2 for $375 and maybe cheaper if you scoop it of ebay. Thats what I think man. Who cares about Windows Mobile 7, worry when it is really around the corner.

illwafer 10-25-2009 12:41 AM

Re: Will the Touch Pro 2 be short lived? My personal dilemma.
 
thanks everyone for all the advice.

erick10, i should have mentioned i'm the cheapest of cheapskates. $375+tax and paypal fees is too much for me for a phone, although i like your line of thinking. i could probably get close to breaking even if i sold the tp1 on ebay for $200 and paid the regular $150-$199 for the tp2, but then i'd have to wait a year for upgrade or pay retail. i'm also married and my wife and i usually have the same stuff, so she'd need and upgrade too ;)

chong67 and rawdikrik have probably persuaded me to not pay for the tp2 (i can still keep trying to get it free for another week). i was looking at this thread http://community.sprint.com/baw/thre...reqsorting=dec
and i only wish my tp1 was that responsive.

any other feedback is welcomed. if sprint was launching the tp2 like it did the palm pre, i'd probably think differently.

chong

SporkLover 10-25-2009 12:55 AM

Re: Will the Touch Pro 2 be short lived? My personal dilemma.
 
$75 with upgrade?

If your phone has physical damage, spen $100 on your deductible for Asurion and get a new TP2, with no upgrade required.

That way you can save your upgrade for a new phone next year.

For the record, the lack of TP2's in stores are not indicative of a short life span. In my area, the corporate stores arent getting them because the local best buys are selling them somewhat exclusively.

The fact that the TP2 is really a stop gap device, that is indicative of it's intended short life span. TP2 = Windows ME, except it is an actual improvement

erick10 10-25-2009 01:05 AM

Re: Will the Touch Pro 2 be short lived? My personal dilemma.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by illwafer (Post 1262466)
thanks everyone for all the advice.

erick10, i should have mentioned i'm the cheapest of cheapskates. $375+tax and paypal fees is too much for me for a phone, although i like your line of thinking. i could probably get close to breaking even if i sold the tp1 on ebay for $200 and paid the regular $150-$199 for the tp2, but then i'd have to wait a year for upgrade or pay retail. i'm also married and my wife and i usually have the same stuff, so she'd need and upgrade too ;)

chong67 and rawdikrik have probably persuaded me to not pay for the tp2 (i can still keep trying to get it free for another week). i was looking at this thread http://community.sprint.com/baw/thre...reqsorting=dec
and i only wish my tp1 was that responsive.

any other feedback is welcomed. if sprint was launching the tp2 like it did the palm pre, i'd probably think differently.

chong

My bad Chong. I just checked Ebay and I see a couple of used Touch Pros going for about $280 - $310 used. Now lets say you put $2 a day on your piggy bank everyday, you wont feel the pain of the $3xx of the HD2 if you start saving from today lol. Honestly, my Touch Pro was liquid damaged since 10/20 (I was throw into a pool in a party) and I contacted Asurion and today they agreed to send me a Touch Pro 2 for $100 deductible so that aint bad. Im planning on getting the Touch HD2 if it hits Sprint. Only major problem is losing my $30 Sero Plan if I choose to renew my contract.

Rager02 10-25-2009 01:16 AM

Re: Will the Touch Pro 2 be short lived? My personal dilemma.
 
if you are unhappy with your tp1 get the tp2 if you dont want it sell it for $400 get another phone you feel comfortable with.

EGOvoruhk 10-25-2009 02:16 AM

Re: Will the Touch Pro 2 be short lived? My personal dilemma.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by themuffinman (Post 1262188)
Regardless of them giving tp2 as replacements there are people who paid full pop for a tp2 and you are saying $75 is a ripoff?

Wow, my comment went completely over your head, didn't it?

Paying $75 for something that should be free for him is a ripoff. Notice I said for him, not for other people

Mutiny32 10-25-2009 02:27 AM

Re: Will the Touch Pro 2 be short lived? My personal dilemma.
 
My theory about why it's going to be a short-lived device is because it was supposed to be released the same day as the HTC Snap. That didn't happen. It was about 5 months late. The hardware revision on the phone says 4, so I'd say they've had problems with this phone from day one and they are trying to unload it as quickly as possible. With the SnapDragon and Tegra knocking on the door, this phone is going to seem to age like that Nazi who drank from the wrong cup in The Last Crusade. It's a stop-gap keyboard slider 5 months late and about to be put up against the Droid and probably a HD2 Slider as well as another Android slider if the Droid doesn't make it to Sprint.

SolApathy 10-25-2009 03:12 AM

Re: Will the Touch Pro 2 be short lived? My personal dilemma.
 
It's great stop-gap phone if you are willing to get it now & wait a year for the 2nd generation Snapdragon & Tegra based devices to be rolled out. If you want the latest & greatest when they first roll out then hold onto your current phone.

Personally I grabbed 2 TP2's & will wait a year for my renewal & grab the 2nd generation of the new phones that will be arriving late next year.

It gives plenty of time for advanced development & allows the devices to mature. Not to mention the ROM & customization base will be well established by then.

pokerpot 10-25-2009 03:48 AM

Re: Will the Touch Pro 2 be short lived? My personal dilemma.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chong67 (Post 1262415)
I have hardly use the keyboard at all. TP2 is a brick. I still love my TP2, but its just too thick.

Idk why, but you annoy the hell out of me.

tmwes 10-25-2009 07:24 AM

Re: Will the Touch Pro 2 be short lived? My personal dilemma.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rawdikrik (Post 1262424)
OK.. Since it seems no one is really being helpful.

You must look into the future of devices. Windows Mobile 7 devices should start appearing by Q2 of 2010. These devices will all be VERY advanced in terms of current hardware. The HD2 just barely scratches the surface of that hardware with the Capacitive screen, 1Ghz Snapdragon and multitouch. By Q2, the HD 2 will be a bottom of the barrel WinPhone7 Device.

Along the same lines, I feel that WVGA is going to be the screen size of most upscale phones from now on (including the HD2). So that means there should be plenty f programs and mods and packages that could be retroffited to the TP2.

Personally... I wouldnt do it. Buy a TP2 out of pocket and keep ur upgrade for the middle of next year. One word: TEGRA.

I just got a Zune HD last week, and if Windows 7 is anything like the Zune interface; it has the potential to be really, really sweet.

tmwes 10-25-2009 07:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wesd (Post 1262448)
I am led to believe the TP2 is going to have a short lifespan. First, there is talk on the 'net of the TP3, basically a HD2 with a keyboard. Plus, as noted above, WM 7 will be out next year. The Tp2 is basically a TP1 with the correct form factor. Camera and processor are very similar.

I'm going to the TP2, but when I can buy one on Ebay for $299 or less. They are down to $380 now from $430 last week. I would wait for the Droid but not sure if Sprint will get that one or not.

Good luck with that; they seem to be selling for upwards of $500. My auction ends this morning and is over $500. Still a deal if full retail is $479; but I doubt you'll be getting one on ebay for much less than $475 or so.

illwafer 10-25-2009 10:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tmwes (Post 1262777)
Good luck with that; they seem to be selling for upwards of $500. My auction ends this morning and is over $500. Still a deal if full retail is $479; but I doubt you'll be getting one on ebay for much less than $475 or so.

i think that is the point of the conversation.

there is no doubt the value of the tp1 is sinking quickly. if it turns out the tp2 gets the same rap (whether true or not) then its value is going to drop fast as well. imo, it is probably a good move for you to sell yours now and congrats on getting 5 bills for it. but i think in a month or 2 you will the ebay prices cool off quite a bit.

kaos 10-25-2009 10:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EGOvoruhk (Post 1262152)
$75 is a rip off, considering they're supposed to be giving free upgrades to the Pro2 if you're replacing your phone. Provided you have insurrance, or still under warranty, which yours is

i signed a new 2yr i was only 10 months into my 1yr.lol and i got it the tp2 for free from sprint....i had went through 5 pro 1s. pro2 is amazing. like night and day...

Rollazn 10-25-2009 11:03 AM

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I had a month left on my one year warranty and my keyboard gave out... I had to go to 5 different store before I found a good rep that allowed me to switch my old TP to a new TP2!

I'm so happy... it was worth it!

I'm also on SERO. But it's worth the $75 dollar upgrade ( even though its kinda a rip-off) but either way I'd take it if he doesn't cave in.

tmwes 10-25-2009 11:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by illwafer (Post 1262931)
i think that is the point of the conversation.

there is no doubt the value of the tp1 is sinking quickly. if it turns out the tp2 gets the same rap (whether true or not) then its value is going to drop fast as well. imo, it is probably a good move for you to sell yours now and congrats on getting 5 bills for it. but i think in a month or 2 you will the ebay prices cool off quite a bit.


I don't know...I sold my original TP right before I bought the TP2; and I still got $180 for it for a year old device.

w7excursion 10-25-2009 11:03 AM

Re: Will the Touch Pro 2 be short lived? My personal dilemma.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pokerpot (Post 1262683)
Idk why, but you annoy the hell out of me.

read my mind

jmorton10 10-25-2009 11:12 AM

Re: Will the Touch Pro 2 be short lived? My personal dilemma.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by w7excursion (Post 1263014)
read my mind

LOL, I was thinking the same thing........

~John

havox22 10-25-2009 11:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by w7excursion (Post 1263014)
read my mind

maybe its his avatar & u guys are hungry & get jealous when u see him eating:dontknow: or maybe its just how he is eating it....yes no maybe??

aaron580 10-25-2009 11:17 AM

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Im on my first 2 year contract with sprint. I started with a mogul then went to a touch pro for free with asurion now to a TP2 for free. Im gonna keep my contract until the new phones come out on sprint THEN use my upgrade to get one of those. my 2yr ends in april unfortunately though.

jmorton10 10-25-2009 11:41 AM

Re: Will the Touch Pro 2 be short lived? My personal dilemma.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by havox22 (Post 1263041)
maybe its his avatar & u guys are hungry & get jealous when u see him eating:dontknow: or maybe its just how he is eating it....yes no maybe??

it's not that, I got so sick of looking at huge gif sigs that had absolutely nothing to do with PPC's that I blocked all that garbage in my profile over a year ago........

~John

chong67 10-25-2009 05:47 PM

Re: Will the Touch Pro 2 be short lived? My personal dilemma.
 
I like to see if the TP2 will have a shorter life than the Treo 800w.

Sprint and Palm regret releasing the 800w and it was gone in 4 months and released for the Pro. Just like that overnight.

kjhadfield 10-25-2009 07:37 PM

Re: Will the Touch Pro 2 be short lived? My personal dilemma.
 
i'm on sprint, been w/ for many years, and i'm not understanding how people are saying they get FREE upgrade w/ renewal of contract? can some1 please explain 2 me. and whats this 1 year warranty free upgrade?

i have tp2 now, before i had vogue for 2+ years. i was able 2 get upgrade ($150 off full retail) + 2 year renewal. what am i missing?

anybody that can give me the "scoop" thanks

chiroeagle 10-25-2009 07:52 PM

Re: Will the Touch Pro 2 be short lived? My personal dilemma.
 
I think he is referring to the TEP phone insurance "upgrade". The last time I added a new line and a phone to my account (a used Mogul) I inquired about losing my $150 new phone upgrade money and the rep said "You do not have to worry about that, you have TEP and you will get the newest phone just like the one you have!" So, its not really an upgrade, it just so happens that they phase the phones in and out sooo fast that you get an "upgrade" when you current phone craps out.

However, I am stuck with the mogul now.. there are no TP1 and they will not budge on a TP2. They said Snap or Palm Pro!.. i said NO.

Eric

p.s. I think this was my cherry post on PPC!

rawdikrik 10-25-2009 08:20 PM

Re: Will the Touch Pro 2 be short lived? My personal dilemma.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chiroeagle (Post 1264229)
I think he is referring to the TEP phone insurance "upgrade". The last time I added a new line and a phone to my account (a used Mogul) I inquired about losing my $150 new phone upgrade money and the rep said "You do not have to worry about that, you have TEP and you will get the newest phone just like the one you have!" So, its not really an upgrade, it just so happens that they phase the phones in and out sooo fast that you get an "upgrade" when you current phone craps out.

However, I am stuck with the mogul now.. there are no TP1 and they will not budge on a TP2. They said Snap or Palm Pro!.. i said NO.

Eric

p.s. I think this was my cherry post on PPC!

My suggestion is call Customer Service when it isnt busy, be really nice and tell them this:

" Hello. Im standing outside a sprint service center and before i go in and speak to a rep I want to make sure that it is clearly documented that i have had multiple issues with my phone and need to be given an opportunity to upgrade to a like phone that is currently available. "

Then when you go inside the store, they will see the notes and have to offer you something per customer service.

Tell them you need a winmo device for work and it has to be touch screen with a keyboard. If they offer you a TP... that matches your criteria and your stuck with it.

But they might offer you a Tour, Hero, Pre or my fave... The TP2. Politely say thank you and take home ur TP2. If they say that you need to wait a few days to get it.. thats fine.

Also, deal with a manager, be friendly. Dont dress like a douche, but not like a teenager either.

Good luck!


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