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ls3mach 10-24-2009 11:50 AM

Re: Help!! Re: EBAY purchase possible insurance fraud/scam
 
Maybe he was selling the phone for a profit. I am a Sprint Premier customer, so I get yearly upgrades, and I bought a Motorola Q last year and sold it for $175. I got the phone for free so it was a great deal for me.

tool2269 10-24-2009 12:44 PM

Re: Help!! Re: EBAY purchase possible insurance fraud/scam
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by em2y0 (Post 1260616)
Call Sprint and tell them about the situation, if they give the ok go ahead and activate it. If they decide a month or two later to shut the phone off and tell you it was stolen, tell them you spoke to a sprint rep and they informed you everything was good to go. Now if they say SOL i would want to speak to someone higher up since you were told everything was ok

So Have you even tried contacting the seller for answers?


make sure you the the conversation in 'writing'. either via email or have them put onto your file 'notes'

SecretAgentMan 10-24-2009 07:42 PM

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Is the name on the box the seller's name? Maybe the seller has some sort of drop ship arrangement and Sprint just used his name instead of yours. I'd check with Sprint to be sure.

firebrain 10-24-2009 08:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SecretAgentMan (Post 1261662)
Is the name on the box the seller's name? Maybe the seller has some sort of drop ship arrangement and Sprint just used his name instead of yours. I'd check with Sprint to be sure.

Drop ship arrangements such as those from Brightpoint wouldn't have the seller's phone number and account info in or on the box.

This doesn't necessesarily mean that the phone was stolen. If the guy had a upgrade and wanted it to sell it he can tell Sprint to ship it a different address. The phone would still come in the seller's name because the upgrade was performed on his account.

If he claimed insurance (that the phone was stolen/lost, if he claimed damage he would have to return old phone) on his existing TP2 then that phone's ESN would be blocked and he wouldn't be able to use on is account essentially making it worthless to make such a claim.

swoope 10-24-2009 09:02 PM

Re: Help!! Re: EBAY purchase possible insurance fraud/scam
 
op you might read through this thread..

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread...ighlight=fraud

beers

rjmjr69 10-24-2009 09:30 PM

Re: Help!! Re: EBAY purchase possible insurance fraud/scam
 
I wouldnt say a thing

firebrain 10-24-2009 10:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rjmjr69 (Post 1262021)
I wouldnt say a thing

I concur. If it works and Sprint says ESN is clear leave it be

sd4shizy 10-24-2009 10:55 PM

Re: Help!! Re: EBAY purchase possible insurance fraud/scam
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 632627 (Post 1260441)
Hey guys, im new here, so any help and advice would be much appreciated.

2 weeks ago i bought a brand new touch pro2 from ebay from an ebay power seller with over 99% feedback. The phone arrives 2 days later directly from sprint, however it is adressed to a different name. I find it odd but call up sprint and have the phone activated. From some of the posts here and on sprintusers.com, i come to realize this phone was sent to me as part of an insurance scam.

Here is my dilemma.... I have already sold my old phone, and the only other phone I would be interested in is a samsung intrepid but i cant find one on ebay. I like the tp2 alot and got it for a pretty good price. My main concern is that 2 or 3 months down the line Sprint might brick my phone and im SOL. I asked a friend who used to work for sprint, and she said that once the phone is activated on my account, they cant block the esn #.... which for some reason i find hard to believe.

Should I just keep the phone and take my chances and if anything bad happens file a dispute with paypal? or should i call up sprint and report the incident and hope they let me keep the phone? one thing I don't want to do is just send the phone back to the seller and keep my fingers crossed that he issues a full refund.

thanks for your time guys!

Bro,

Know that this thread can be used against u as evidence that you had actual knowledge (given the facts, there is probably enough to constitute constructive notice as well) and were on notice of the fraud or potential thereof - don't presume that you are immune from such correspondence to be used against you (although highly unlikely).

What you should do is not only call Sprint but ask to speak to a Supe and MAKE SURE that ur convo is noted. Further, make sure that it states that you called inquiring about the issue and states the issue in fair detail. That may satisfy the requirement that you made a good faith effort to resolve the issue.

Also, note that a thief can never pass good title nor can title be passed even from a bona fP unless it was bought from a merchant that specialized in such goods in exchange for valuable consideration (money) which I presume you gave through PP. The seller qualifies as such so you're in the green.

The person whose account was potentially computerized would not be responsible; the seller would have to go to whoever he "bought it from" and receive a refund therefrom.

Anyway. I hope this helped. I have a Evidence Exam to study for and look what I'm doing...So sad.

PEACE

dimitri 10-24-2009 11:19 PM

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And always know that there is a charge of "Recieving Stolen Property". I would make sure that you have covered every avenue available to you.

chong67 10-24-2009 11:23 PM

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I had the same problem as you. Check my other thread that I had posted.

But I didnt resell my phone. I am using the phone now.


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