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aamon17 10-19-2009 04:04 PM

TP2 Not charging to 100% . . . Anyone else?
 
Okay, I'm seeing a couple of issues.


1.) When charge my TP2 in Sleep Mode, it will eventually get to 100%. BUT, it appears that the charging stops (as it should) and then begins using the battery without ever kicking back in.
  • EXAMPLE: Phone reaches 100% @ 4:30am. I wake @ 6:00am, look at phone and is reads 100% UNTIL I unplug it. Then it immediatley drops 5-7%. Power settings tab shows device usage & stand-by time equaling 90 minutes: the amount of time from 100% charge to unplugging.
2.) When I charge my phone in Off Mode it NEVER fully charges to 100%. And it never resets the Power Information tab info. It would seem to me that when it's completely off 7 not checking emails, etc, that it would charge fully and much quicker. Not the case with mine.

I am running the most recent versions of NueBattery2 & NuePower/Backlight. Tried a hard reset & restored my data. Same issue.

Lastly, it happens with both the Standard VZW battery and the Extended VZW battery, fyi.

Thoughts or suggestions are appreciated.

mikejones13 10-19-2009 04:12 PM

Re: TP2 Not charging to 100% . . . Anyone else?
 
I would say hardreset, WITHOUT installing your BACKUP you made. Maybe its something you installed. Either way that sux. Just hardreset and ONLY INSTALL YOUR contacts and if you setup email set it back up. Then run it for a day or so with nothing installed and see if that works.

MrGoodCat 10-19-2009 04:54 PM

Re: TP2 Not charging to 100% . . . Anyone else?
 
mine is bone stock with respect to the battery (no special driver cabs). when the phone is OFF it does charge considerably quicker, but never reaches 100%. i have to turn the phone on then let it sit plugged in another 10-15 before it hits 100. i found that to be kinda odd too. but i think it has to do with the charging info reseting and such.

however i do not experience the immediate drop. i have read that with those 1% drivers the high numbers, like around 95-100 are inaccurate. therefore it may just be showing that it has dropped, but in reality it has not.

i feel the stock drivers, despite the 10% resolution, are accurate throughout the whole range, which i like. not sure if you need to hard reset anything, hope you haven't already, as mine is stock and i get the same "issue" if you can call it that

shaggylive 10-19-2009 04:57 PM

Re: TP2 Not charging to 100% . . . Anyone else?
 
you need to let the battery completely die. (not just 10%) then fully charge.

dgourd 10-19-2009 04:57 PM

Re: TP2 Not charging to 100% . . . Anyone else?
 
The NueBattery driver isnt perfect. It does give you a longer battery life, but it isnt always accurate when it reads the percentage left.

Also, the TP2 has a feature that it stops charging the battery when it gets close to 100. After that it trickle charges. You might lose 1-2% in battery power, but it preserves the integretiy of the battery. So in the long run, the battery is in the same condition as it is in now.

BK111968 10-19-2009 04:59 PM

Re: TP2 Not charging to 100% . . . Anyone else?
 
I'm noticing the same thing - the led shows green but the minute I unplug it then it drops down to about 93-94%. I really like the percentage but I'm not sure if this is accurate and I may install the program and just run the stock drivers instead.

mikejones13 10-19-2009 04:59 PM

Re: TP2 Not charging to 100% . . . Anyone else?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shaggylive (Post 1246591)
you need to let the battery completely die. (not just 10%) then fully charge.


Thats what I thought, OP needs to recalibrate the battery. That is always the first thing I do on my new phones/laptops. And I also do it about once every 2 weeks.

correct 10-19-2009 05:40 PM

Re: TP2 Not charging to 100% . . . Anyone else?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shaggylive (Post 1246591)
you need to let the battery completely die. (not just 10%) then fully charge.

never completely drain a lithium ion battery... you'll do more damage than good. lithium batteries have no memory effect, so trying to condition them is useless, and unnecessary.

shaggylive 10-19-2009 05:40 PM

Re: TP2 Not charging to 100% . . . Anyone else?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by correct (Post 1246684)
never completely drain a lithium ion battery... you'll do more damage than good.

:error::banghead:

1st generation maybe, but the ones in any cell phone for the last ~5 years, need calibrated from empty.

(granted if you hooked up a led or small motor directly to the battery contacts and ran it to 0volt, then you would have problems) the phone will only drain to a certain level, beyond that the pwr-good signal is invalid.

correct 10-19-2009 05:54 PM

Re: TP2 Not charging to 100% . . . Anyone else?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shaggylive (Post 1246686)
:error::banghead:

1st generation maybe, but the ones in any cell phone for the last ~5 years, need calibrated from empty.

(granted if you hooked up a led or small motor directly to the battery contacts and ran it to 0volt, then you would have problems) the phone will only drain to a certain level, beyond that the pwr-good signal is invalid.

like i said, lithium batteries have zero memory effect, so conditioning a lithium ion battery is useless. conditioning a battery is an old school method used on ni-cad batteries to avoid creating a memory effect, thus lowering the battery capacity. i know it's hard, but you gotta shake them old habits.


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