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I believe there will be a lot of people crying about the slowdown after the windows 6.5 upgrade. I never liked running it on my diamond no matter how many tweaks were done to it. It just slowed down the device too much, or it started fast and ended slow. Why do you think they didn't ship it with 6.5? We've been running it for about 8 months and they wanted to wait one more month after the intial launch. Performance will suffer no matter what with windows :disgust:6.5.

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6.5.1 has been the fastest and most stable build I have used...I have no idea what you're talking about but I've been very fast on a vzw crippled touch pro
maybe its your apps installed or the htc bloatware...

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6.5 is being made ready on Oct 6 for HTC branded TP2 devices. That is Microsoft's official launch date for WM65. Regardless of what the folks at XDA have been doing with WM65 - it hasn't actually launched past RTM yet ... so that is why your TP2 hasn't shipped with WM65 just yet.

NFSFAN's WM65 ROM ran much faster than the stock WM61 ROM did on my Vogue.

Now, while WM65 officially drops on Oct 6, carrier branded devices will most likely not see the update right away - if ever.

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I haven't run a stock rom on my mogul or diamond since the day i could get a kitchen on it. 6.5 runs slow, or slows down, take your pick. I run my roms as clean as possible. There are others here that think the same, so don't act like this is the first your hearing this. Secondly for the person running a verizon crippled touch pro, your expectations aren't as high as mine.

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Running the energy rom with 6.5 right now. Fastest rom I've ever used.

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I'll try it out. I gave up on them 2 months ago.

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I've only experienced greater speed when I used wm6.5 on my Diamond. Can't wait to have it back on my Pro2

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That is being very pessimistic. Sprint for one has lately been very fast with ROM upgrades. There also has been too much hype around 6.5 for the carriers to look the other way. I bet Sprint will be fast to offer the upgrade because TP2 came out just a month before 6.5 and they are charging top dollar for the phone. We will see 6.5 from Sprint. You can bet on it. That is what happened with the last phone.

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I run 6.5 on both of my HTC Touch Pro's & love it. It seems to be faster & better at managing memory than 6.1 when I loaded things side by side. At the end of the day 6.1 usually was using more RAM & a little sluggish (especially with my Exchange running).

Tuesday I'm grabbing a TP 2. If I like it I'm going to grab a second one.

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Actually, I wouldn't be surprise if sprint comes out with theirs on the same day or maybe a few days later. Conflipper has had an actual sprint6.5 rom for a few months now if I am not mistaken.

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+1 on that while 6.1 might have a very slight speed increase over 6.5. at the end of the day 6.5 ends up performing better for me and the way i use my phone.

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I feel the opposite so far, 6.5 has always ended up bogging down on me, and my battery life has been worse. The worst offender in 6.5 for me has been SMS though. I really want to like 6.5, but so far I just keep going back to 6.1

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Since 6.5 amounts to little more than a cosmetic upgrade, I don't see how it could affect performance that much. In fact at&t is waiting to ship their TP2 until 6.5 is released, so I don't think that's why the other carriers shipped it with 6.1. They wanted to get this out the door and didn't want to wait another month and a half while we customers sat around and complained some more because we didn't have it yet.

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Wtf is that supposed to mean? Just because I have a verizon touch pro and the ram is cut, doesn't mean that my user experience will be different based on yours.

Just an FYI, I have a sprint touch pro, an alltel touch pro, a us cellular touch pro and a verizon touch pro. So I just don't test new rom builds on my verizon touch pro. I test them on total of 4 devices. And the performance on 6.5.1 is pretty much the same

speed and memory management are the goals of wm 6.5 and on the newest build runs at 48 mb on startup with a lot more resources available

Not only is it fast, but efficient. I don't know what build you are on but you best get your facts straight on other members...

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yeah the SMS freezing was aggravating to say the least. but the 23017 build ive got on my diamond has almost no freezing what so ever.

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Who cares how many devices you run it on. You mentioned you don't know what i'm talking about. I have seen threads on here with people saying the same thing I said, they prefer 6.1 over 6.5 because 6.5 runs sluggish. With practically the same hardware in the TP2 how would it run different. Now go do your research.

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Well I have a diamond and a tp1 sitting right here next to me with custom 6.1 roms. I also have a tp2 sitting here next to me running a stock 6.1 rom and even though the hardware is basically the same it blows away my diamond and my pro1 so bad its laughable. So who knows how well 6.5 will run on the tp2 regardless of having similar hardware or not.

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That's all fine and dandy. I appreciate the comparison and info you provided, but dude was trying to come off like superfly from the beginning cause i made a post. I've been on here lurking for 2 years and just started posting. I'm not new to it, I'm true to it.

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Remember the unofficial 6.1 upgrade for the mogul? It never ran quite right until the official one came out.

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Interesting how many people are in favor of 6.5 vs a few months ago.

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The TP2 is also going to have an actual 6.5 kernel with better memory management... Something else to think about

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Definitely disagree, this doesn't even make any sense. Any future phone will ship with 6.5, if what you were saying were true then that wouldn't happen. Also i 've been running 6.5 for the last 3 months and hate going back to 6.1 on this tp2. As soon as the hspl is done, a 6.5 rom will be on there till the official rom is released.

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SUPERFLY?!?!?!?!?

Wow... You threw your opinion out there and have been nothing but pessemistic and jumped all over the guy because his experience and opinion are different.

Who's coming off like superfly?

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What are you talking about? So there haven't been other threads about 6.1 vs 6.5.

You best do your research on members? He made it personal. It was about roms, not researching him or any other member.

Third: Where'd you come from with a post just for this, not even about a phone or a question about a phone. Sounds like you might be dude in disguise. It's all about the roms as far as i'm concerned.

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ok guys lets all calm down before a flame war is started....every one is welcome to their own opinon some will love 6.5 and some will hate it. every ones different i mean i know ppl who still prefer 6 over 6.1 and 5 over six this will be a never ending chain we will all just have to accept that not every one shares your same opinion and live peacefully.

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Let me twist this a different direction, with one question: I assume all apps will need to be phyically reinstalled after the 6.5 upgrade?

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you believe...cool... thats just an opinion

the sys(ie 23017,23xxx,etc) thats what ur looking for as far as stablility

got some proof on that? your opening line and last line are very contradictive.. you say "being made ready on the 6th" then say "most likely not see an upgrade right away" so which is it... Sprint,MS, NOR HTC, have said when an upgrade rom will be available... oct 6th has devices launching in conjunction with the 6.5 release.. as far as anything ive read or seen posted nothing has indicated ANYTHING other than these few handsets will have 6.5 available on or by the 6th...

wow, so are u ever gonna get a PRO or u just gonna come in the PRO room and speculate how OUR devices run, since afterall ur running a diamond and a mogul... both, not on level with a TP
lately???? has there been a rom release for sprint since 6.1 in july of 2007??? theyve hardly hooked us up with updates...

first, YOUVE READ, until you KNOW or have first hand experience, why r u here in the PRO room..

second, people r going to always disagree with what they like or dont like..

third, you wanna tell people to research... well buddy, how bout u research sys 23017, read the web, not just PPCG, youll find the 23017 build is BY FAR, THE MOST STABLE build PERIOD... so maybe, your diamond and mogul r junk... r u really gonna compare running 6.5 on a 64mb device(mogul) vs running it on the PRO??? get out of here with that garbage

lurking for 2 yrs...doesnt mean u cant know ur stuff still, but come on man... u come in here, with a speculative post at that, how do u expect people to act?

and since u seem to think someone cand have a crippled VZW device and have your best interest in mine... check out Chef BikeandDestroy... he builds nothing but 6.5 roms for us, and guess what he runs a crippled vzw TP... he also happens to make some of the most stable roms(demolition roms) for EVERYONE to use.... so what device your on, doesnt mean a thing, as far as offering help to another... obviously u know that, since your running 2 devices yourself that arent even TPs, yet we find you in here..

SURE, there been plenty of threads about it.....so whyd u start yet ANOTHER one...

you told him he couldnt possible understand what hes talking about because he runs a VZW device...when in fact u should hear him out more than anything, since he would understand running 6.5 on a device with less available-much like your diamond and mogul..

r u really trying to go after someone cuz of post count??? 2 yrs and u have 25 to his 5... who cares... like u said youve been here 2 yrs and just started posting... so ur gonna condemn someone who does tha same thing?? get off ur high horse guy...

You get a PRO, and run SIlence, Demolition, Black Dragon, Mighty, Energy, Psyki..... then come talk to us about how sluggish 6.5 is or isnt... but until your using our device and our Roms, STFU honestly!

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First of all, not many people have a touch pro 2 yet, and no one is running it with the official 6.5 so it's all speculation. Second, the touch pro being on another level than the diamond is a matter of opinion. Hardware differences but a totally different level, pure opinion. I also haven't made up my mind whether to get one or not. That is why I posted to see opinions on how it will run with 6.5 versus getting a Hero. All the other stuff you wrote and that last comment was you showing your true ignorance and up bringing. Dude already deaded the situation telling everyone to calm down, Then here you come.

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Well there is this: http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/...le-65-upgrade/

And I think what he meant was that HTC is going to push out the 6.5 updates to their newer devices that they support directly while it might be a little longer with devices that are mainly supported on the carrier's side.

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Been running this rom all afternoon. By far the best experience i've had with 6.5 so far. Thank you.

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yup sure do :sign5:

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That is exactly what I meant. I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts the unbranded HTC ROM *will not* load on my Telus TP2, until it has the blessing of Telus.

Remember folks, there are differences between the Sprint, T-Mobile, Telus and HTC Stock ROMs so just because HTC is ready on Oct 6 does not guarantee that a ROM will work on your (unlocked, no HardSPL CDMA) TP2 on Oct 6. I certainly *hope* that the carrier branded devices will launch on Oct 6 but I won't be surprised if the download link for Telus TP2 is missing at 12:01AM on Oct 6.

Look here for (one of the places) where I get the silly idea WM65 will be on HTC TP2 on Oct 6: http://www.wmexperts.com/winmo-65-up...ouch-diamond-2 info. Also note the fact that none of the carriers have come forward to say "Yup, we'll offer it". The information that I've seen out there suggests early November for some of the carriers ... like the Bells and Telus's of the world -it took a couple months for the Vogue GPS update to appear on Telus after HTC was offering it for example of how fast (some of) the carriers like to jump on new ROM versions.

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I have to say though, that doesn't mean a whole lot either. Sprint didn't officially announce the TP2 release until a couple days before hand, same with Verizon. And didn't the Telus one just kind of show up?

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I think I'd better get a TP2 while 6.1 is out, and wait to upgrade until the kinks are worked out. Or just wait until the official 6.5 is verified as working smooth.

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Is Energy GSM specific or does it work on CDMA ?