Originally Posted by p-slim (Post 1144420)

with these results i cant wait for the hspl so we can just delete tf3d completely and run 6.5. also we'll be able to change the pagepool and do as we please.

Originally Posted by boredandtattooed (Post 1144577)

i hear ya, some of these titanium only roms are only 80-90mb, have like 350 of usuable room left... i dont like TF3D at all.... not that ive ever looked, but youd think thered be a manilla remover or something... some kind of cab that would remove it out right, even from stock roms...

...honestly what would happen if u just went in a deleted all the manilla files??

Originally Posted by orlandojumpoff (Post 1144687)

thanks guys! kinda sucks that we lose RAM. but if it runs great then i guess it doesn't really matter unless you're extremely crazy about multitasking. Guess it's something we're willing to overlook for the best thing out on Sprint. I'll be getting mine soon.

Anyone notice a dip in performance after opening/closing apps all day?

Originally Posted by AstainHellbring (Post 1146077)

uhm what are you smoking we didnt lose any ram from TP to TP2

Originally Posted by themuffinman (Post 1145578)

I have had several apps open to the point where the memory use was at 90% and it was running as smooth as if I just used it for the first time. I know alot of people have been saying its not that much of an upgrade but htc have improved on so many little things that it really feels like a night and day difference from the tp1.

Originally Posted by themuffinman (Post 1146116)

We are talking about whats available after boot up. With the tp1 on a fresh reset you would be getting around 40% of ram being used with the tp2 on a fresh reset you will be getting around 54% of ram being used. With my tp1 after using the phone for a while it hovers around 50% ram being used with my tp2, after being used for a while, ram hovers around 68%.

Originally Posted by AstainHellbring (Post 1146259)

Ahh ok that should be stated is available memory drop. expect that its got tf3d v2 not v1 v2 takes up more memory

Originally Posted by AstainHellbring (Post 1146077)

uhm what are you smoking we didnt lose any ram from TP to TP2

Originally Posted by p-slim (Post 1146360)

The memory in the tp2 is distributed differently then from the tp1. There is more storage memory but less ram.

Originally Posted by themuffinman (Post 1145578)

I have had several apps open to the point where the memory use was at 90% and it was running as smooth as if I just used it for the first time. I know alot of people have been saying its not that much of an upgrade but htc have improved on so many little things that it really feels like a night and day difference from the tp1.

Originally Posted by yznhmr (Post 1146451)

IM just wondering if all this discussion is really worth it.. the TP2 is so much faster then the Mougal, and has like 4x the ram.. so if its @ 70%or 90% does it really matter?

My PC runs just as fast @ 90% load as it does@ 70 % load (90 % of 256 is still leaving 25mb for operating, which is 2x what my Mougal WM6.5 runs @ every day).)

The TP1 was full of issues as i hear..and Im guessing it has OS/ hardware issues (not including lack of RAM issues) so the TP2 should be the BOMB..

BTW even the Iphone slows down after a few days (memory leak?) and has to be rebooted for peak performance..
Thanks MattSM for all your help!!

Originally Posted by Dragon2 (Post 1146563)

i was once on the fence about upgrading to the tp2 from my old tp1...... but oh my god was I a retard for thinking that. this thing never slows down like the tp1 did, you dont need a custom rom on it for it to run decent, the camera is better IMO even without the flash, Dudes and Dudetts, the speakers on this thing is crazy, with my wifes diamond next to it you cant hear nothing on the diamond and the diamond was louder than my pro1.... you dont have to worry about having a charger or extended battery around, i used to have to take one with me to work with my tp1 and i dont have to with the tp2... this dont get extremely hott to where you could just feel the damn thing eating away at the ribbon on the keyboard like the tp1....

trying to type on my wifes diamonds onscreen keyboard is crap, with the tp1 it was the same.... now i can easily type on screen and actually get some speed....

the tilt is a cool feature but i think it coul have used a little more planning as theres a slight wobble on all of em but still sturdy on the catching point, but down its sturdy as a board and shut theres 0 gap or play when ya touch the screen in portrait...

they keyboard just smashes the tp1s, i thaught it wouldnt be a upgrade but boy was i wrong...

the no dpad takes some getting used to and the no center button also, but on the other side i havent used my sylus once and i used to be a big sylus user.. but imagine how big this would be with a dpad...lol


the volume button is nicely placed where you can access it without having to mash your fingers in the upper left corner to turn the volume up or down...

atleast on the tmobile version the sd card slot is on the outside with a great cover that matches the housing nicely, also for us tmobile versioners the soft reset is on the outside as well like the tp1...

program memory is a little higher than the tp1 yes, but if the device dont slow down, the battery rocks, and hasnt run outta memory yet, who gives a left testicle about it? like i said, if it dont effect nothing, why complain?


so take it from a guy who was one like no way, thats no upgrade, but once i saw one in stores, i was like im a moron, oh and the sensitivity is crazy and 0 hack could get close to this....

its a 10000 % better, just the tiny things ya notice make it so much more enjoyable....... battery life rocks and the screen is huge and way more vibrant than the tp1.... good day.... ill be playing with my tp2.... 1.5 weeks since i got it and i still am in awwww.

Originally Posted by Dragon2 (Post 1146563)

i was once on the fence about upgrading to the tp2 from my old tp1...... but oh my god was I a retard for thinking that. this thing never slows down like the tp1 did, you dont need a custom rom on it for it to run decent, the camera is better IMO even without the flash, Dudes and Dudetts, the speakers on this thing is crazy, with my wifes diamond next to it you cant hear nothing on the diamond and the diamond was louder than my pro1.... you dont have to worry about having a charger or extended battery around, i used to have to take one with me to work with my tp1 and i dont have to with the tp2... this dont get extremely hott to where you could just feel the damn thing eating away at the ribbon on the keyboard like the tp1....

trying to type on my wifes diamonds onscreen keyboard is crap, with the tp1 it was the same.... now i can easily type on screen and actually get some speed....

the tilt is a cool feature but i think it coul have used a little more planning as theres a slight wobble on all of em but still sturdy on the catching point, but down its sturdy as a board and shut theres 0 gap or play when ya touch the screen in portrait...

they keyboard just smashes the tp1s, i thaught it wouldnt be a upgrade but boy was i wrong...

the no dpad takes some getting used to and the no center button also, but on the other side i havent used my sylus once and i used to be a big sylus user.. but imagine how big this would be with a dpad...lol


the volume button is nicely placed where you can access it without having to mash your fingers in the upper left corner to turn the volume up or down...

atleast on the tmobile version the sd card slot is on the outside with a great cover that matches the housing nicely, also for us tmobile versioners the soft reset is on the outside as well like the tp1...

program memory is a little higher than the tp1 yes, but if the device dont slow down, the battery rocks, and hasnt run outta memory yet, who gives a left testicle about it? like i said, if it dont effect nothing, why complain?


so take it from a guy who was one like no way, thats no upgrade, but once i saw one in stores, i was like im a moron, oh and the sensitivity is crazy and 0 hack could get close to this....

its a 10000 % better, just the tiny things ya notice make it so much more enjoyable....... battery life rocks and the screen is huge and way more vibrant than the tp1.... good day.... ill be playing with my tp2.... 1.5 weeks since i got it and i still am in awwww.

Originally Posted by ca2l3vin (Post 1147232)

I probably will seem like a noob for asking this aince im at work and if already discussed then ignore but I remember there was a hotfix for the readout of the device memory on the unlocked version to read RAM as 288 instead of 256 which is what it read at first.

did sprint and other carriers really lower the ram or will these models also need the hotfix and will it be upgraded by the carrier?

see www.htc.com for info on hotfix (located in the austrialian section right now)