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Gee 05-16-2011 03:16 PM

TP2 OS on Arrive?
 
Is it possible to have the TP2 operating system (WM6.5) on the HTC Arrive (W7)? Maybe theres a way to flash or something. Help. I dont wanna lose my TP2 or my plan but i'd like a hardware up grade.

quick99si 05-16-2011 03:48 PM

Re: TP2 OS on Arrive?
 
Simple answer is a resounding NO.

Slightly longer answer directs you to lookin into the WP7 bootloader and the limitations it imposes on modifying OS files, in addition to reading up on ESN's and the legality of modifying ESN's (for your purpose of upgrading the h/w without activating a new phone).

info[]box1 05-16-2011 04:00 PM

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Agreed NO..

but I too would love touch flow 3d on the HTC arrive or HTC evo.

Gee 05-16-2011 04:32 PM

Re: TP2 OS on Arrive?
 
Ouch! Now there really isnt any hope. Thanks for the quick responce guys.

Gee 05-16-2011 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by info[]box1 (Post 2102005)
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Agreed NO..

but I too would love touch flow 3d on the HTC arrive or HTC evo.

Id love to have it on the HTC Evo Shift.

gTen 05-16-2011 05:42 PM

Re: TP2 OS on Arrive?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gee (Post 2101984)
Is it possible to have the TP2 operating system (WM6.5) on the HTC Arrive (W7)? Maybe theres a way to flash or something. Help. I dont wanna lose my TP2 or my plan but i'd like a hardware up grade.

Nope..it might be possible years from now after people hack it up enough..but no guarantee and chances are you can assume its a no...

What plan do you currently have now?


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Originally Posted by info[]box1 (Post 2102005)
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but I too would love touch flow 3d on the HTC arrive or HTC evo.

Not exactly TouchFlo 3d..but if you have seen SPB Shell 3d for android it reminds me a bit of TouchFLo 3d...

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.spb.shell3d

info[]box1 05-16-2011 06:08 PM

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gten.. you think the ns4g gpu can handle it graciously? It should.. I forgot all about spb mobile shell 5.0. This might be the first app I buy.

Edit: I love me some tf3d, Mann I miss her..

horndoctor 05-16-2011 07:44 PM

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If you want TF3d just use the TP2 with the 6.1 rom. If overclocked it works great.

gTen 05-16-2011 08:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by info[]box1 (Post 2102057)
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gten.. you think the ns4g gpu can handle it graciously? It should.. I forgot all about spb mobile shell 5.0. This might be the first app I buy.

Edit: I love me some tf3d, Mann I miss her..

Well our GPU is on par with the dual core phones :/..

To note though, in the Demo movie..thats a Nexus S lol..so if they developed it on a Nexus S..it "should" theoretically run well I guess..

eric12341 05-16-2011 11:21 PM

Re: TP2 OS on Arrive?
 
there is alot of interest on this topic due to the fact that it has been asked a few times before in a couple other threads and unfortunately the answer is,always has been and will always be no. what u can do however is a complete operation,get a tp2 and an arrive and swap the processor,RAM,and screen from it then put it on the tp2. ull get to keep ur phone and plan that way.

with that said once mango hits there won't be any need to even want this and from what I've been reading on wpcentral, and wmpoweruser mango is slated to kick ass.

lnando84 05-16-2011 11:49 PM

Re: TP2 OS on Arrive?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2102131)
what another absurd thread. this has been asked numerous times around these parts and the answer is,always has been and will always be HELL NO!!! with that said once mango hits there won't be any need to even want this and from what I've been reading on wpcentral, and wmpoweruser mango is slated to kick ass.

Whats your problem eric?? You walk around here like you own the place or something, when in all actuality you're on the verge of a permanent ban!! Are members not allowed to have their own personal opinions with having you continually bash them when you disagree. I for one agree with op and wish there was a way to make this happen and I'm sure many others do too!!..as for you saying there won't be any need or want, it's YOU'RE OWN opinion!! I find it funny that you referenced 2 windows phone based sites to say its slated to "kick ass"..i guess talking down their update would get lots of people to want to jump on board:scratch:

sprinttouch666 05-16-2011 11:54 PM

Re: TP2 OS on Arrive?
 
HTC Android Phones have Sense! :headbang:

Quote:

Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2102131)
once mango hits there won't be any need to even want this and from what I've been reading on wpcentral, and wmpoweruser mango is slated to kick ass.

but by the time mango hits the next version of Android (Ice Cream Sandwich) will be out, bringing dual core support and a lot more. Microsoft's got years of catching up to do and there currently moving at a snails pace.

gTen 05-16-2011 11:58 PM

Re: TP2 OS on Arrive?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2102131)
with that said once mango hits there won't be any need to even want this

What if the op is on a sero plan/old plan and doesn't want to pay more?

eric12341 05-17-2011 12:38 AM

Re: TP2 OS on Arrive?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lnando84 (Post 2102137)
Whats your problem eric?? You walk around here like you own the place or something, when in all actuality you're on the verge of a permanent ban!! Are members not allowed to have their own personal opinions with having you continually bash them when you disagree. I for one agree with op and wish there was a way to make this happen and I'm sure many others do too!!..as for you saying there won't be any need or want, it's YOU'RE OWN opinion!! I find it funny that you referenced 2 windows phone based sites to say its slated to "kick ass"..i guess talking down their update would get lots of people to want to jump on board:scratch:

you know I could ask you the same thing. I didn't bash him at all, all I did was just hint that if he had done a search he would've found at least 3 threads that contained his answer. and I do recall you recently bashing someone because he kept posting threads asking for cabs without visiting the favorite cabs thread. just because I found it on windows phone based sites doesn't mean its invalid. its better than those Paul thurott attitude charged sites that many members of this site go to since they seem to be out of the know as to what is coming in mango which I will explain below in the next reply.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sprinttouch666 (Post 2102139)
HTC Android Phones have Sense! :headbang:



but by the time mango hits the next version of Android (Ice Cream Sandwich) will be out, bringing dual core support and a lot more. Microsoft's got years of catching up to do and there currently moving at a snails pace.

who cares about dual core? Android phones seem to be all about specs and not bringing any actual new functionality and innovation to the table. no one knows for sure what all is known in mango but what is known so far is pretty kick ass. here's some of what's to come:
-multitasking
-mobile version of the best desktop browser out right now
-bing audio which is similar to shazam
-bing vision (built in barcode scanner)
-built in Skype,windows live IM,Facebook chat and AIM support
-tethering (via WiFi )

as said before these are just some, there were more that were leaked and there are still much more to be announced at the mango event el proximo martes.

gTen 05-17-2011 12:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2102150)
who cares about dual core? Android phones seem to be all about specs and not bringing any actual new functionality and innovation to the table. no one knows for sure what all is known in mango but what is known so far is pretty kick ass. here's some of what's to come:
-multitasking
-mobile version of the best desktop browser out right now
-bing audio which is similar to shazam
-bing vision (built in barcode scanner)
-built in Skype,windows live IM,Facebook chat and AIM support
-tethering (via WiFi )

as said before these are just some, there were more that were leaked and there are still much more to be announced at the mango event el proximo martes.

umm..Android brings in new functionality every single release..specs add to take better advantage of said functionality...all the things you mentioned for Mango already exist on Android in some shape or form...

Quote:

-mobile version of the best desktop browser out right now
They are adding mobile version of chrome 11? ;)

lnando84 05-17-2011 01:11 AM

Re: TP2 OS on Arrive?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2102150)
you know I could ask you the same thing. I didn't bash him at all, all I did was just hint that if he had done a search he would've found at least 3 threads that contained his answer. and I do recall you recently bashing someone because he kept posting threads asking for cabs without visiting the favorite cabs thread. just because I found it on windows phone based sites doesn't mean its invalid. its better than those Paul thurott attitude charged sites that many members of this site go to since they seem to be out of the know as to what is coming in mango which I will explain below in the next reply.

You didn't bash him:scratch:..could the font size of "hell no!!" get any bigger? and where's this hint of 3 threads..you said, and I quote "what another absurd thread. this has been asked numerous times around these parts". No mention of threads already being available.

I never bashed jcthelight in his total commander thread. He stated that he didn't see it and I was simply pointing it out to him. I'd like for you or anyone to point out where i bashed him?..here's the link

Dudeman456 05-17-2011 02:23 AM

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Further, Windows Phone 7 does not have some of the basic things Windows Mobile or for that matter Android have.

and....

If the HD2 a Windows Mobile phone, can run Windows Phone 7 OS, why would the Arrive not be able to run the same version of Windows Mobile that the HD2 run(other than the radio difference). If the OP wishes to have his phone dance around the table all day and night(battery allowing) or have a bottle opener then that is their wish. Maybe that is something beneficial to them, as long as it does not attack other people in anyway its fine.

The items that are lacking in Windows Phone 7 is the reasons I do not upgrade from my Touch Pro 2, I just filed for a replacement. Personally I wish the Touch Pro 2 use the same GPS chipset that the HTC Sprint Mogul uses.

eric12341 05-17-2011 03:14 AM

Re: TP2 OS on Arrive?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gTen (Post 2102153)
umm..Android brings in new functionality every single release..specs add to take better advantage of said functionality...all the things you mentioned for Mango already exist on Android in some shape or form...



They are adding mobile version of chrome 11? ;)

they may exist in some way (eg in the form of apps) but not native (where no app is needed to access it) and chrome 11 isn't as good as IE9, it crashes on my 1GB RAM gateway media center upgraded to windows 7 box alot more than IE9 does and if it didn't crash a plugin like flash would.
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Originally Posted by lnando84 (Post 2102156)
You didn't bash him:scratch:..could the font size of "hell no!!" get any bigger? and where's this hint of 3 threads..you said, and I quote "what another absurd thread. this has been asked numerous times around these parts". No mention of threads already being available.

I never bashed jcthelight in his total commander thread. He stated that he didn't see it and I was simply pointing it out to him. I'd like for you or anyone to point out where i bashed him?..here's the link

it sure seemed like it. the one who's thinking one owns the place is you. you always seem to be on the crusade to attack/reprimand me even for the simplest things. if you don't like me or what i say just use the ignore feature. and what is this with being on the verge of a permaban like ur some mod or something? i already had one and i haven't been attacking anyone personally like before, just their posts or idioteces.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dudeman456 (Post 2102169)
Further, Windows Phone 7 does not have some of the basic things Windows Mobile or for that matter Android have.

and....

If the HD2 a Windows Mobile phone, can run Windows Phone 7 OS, why would the Arrive not be able to run the same version of Windows Mobile that the HD2 run(other than the radio difference). If the OP wishes to have his phone dance around the table all day and night(battery allowing) or have a bottle opener then that is their wish. Maybe that is something beneficial to them, as long as it does not attack other people in anyway its fine.

The items that are lacking in Windows Phone 7 is the reasons I do not upgrade from my Touch Pro 2, I just filed for a replacement. Personally I wish the Touch Pro 2 use the same GPS chipset that the HTC Sprint Mogul uses.

por ahora sÃ* and some of what it lacks isn't a big deal ATM at least to me and a few others on here anyway. once mango arrives as I've stated above it will do more than what the tp2 does and be able to do more things natively than Android does.

lnando84 05-17-2011 03:45 AM

Re: TP2 OS on Arrive?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2102175)
it sure seemed like it. the one who's thinking one owns the place is you. you always seem to be on the crusade to attack/reprimand me even for the simplest things. if you don't like me or what i say just use the ignore feature. and what is this with being on the verge of a permaban like ur some mod or something? i already had one and i haven't been attacking anyone personally like before, just their posts or idioteces.

Like i said..if i did bash him, point it out for me and everyone to see!! All I do around here is help..ask anyone here for proof of that!! I've tried to ignore your posts but its not fair to me and others users here to continually take your bashings, all for what having opinions of their own!! When have i claimed to be a mod?..never, when have i ever claimed to be better than anyone?..never!! yet you think rep points mean something here. And sorry to burst your bubble but my comments about you being on the verge of perm ban are from talks with mods!!;):-)

I wish we had a BS button/meter here so everyone would really know what you're all about! At least this way we feel justified in having to read your posts!! List of few of those things you're claiming it'll do more than the tp2, let alone android..

info[]box1 05-17-2011 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by horndoctor
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If you want TF3d just use the TP2 with the 6.1 rom. If overclocked it works great.

I'm looking for a tp2 right just so I can put finger on tf3d2

eric12341 05-17-2011 06:48 AM

Re: TP2 OS on Arrive?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lnando84 (Post 2102179)
Like i said..if i did bash him, point it out for me and everyone to see!! All I do around here is help..ask anyone here for proof of that!! I've tried to ignore your posts but its not fair to me and others users here to continually take your bashings, all for what having opinions of their own!! When have i claimed to be a mod?..never, when have i ever claimed to be better than anyone?..never!! yet you think rep points mean something here. And sorry to burst your bubble but my comments about you being on the verge of perm ban are from talks with mods!!;):-)

I wish we had a BS button/meter here so everyone would really know what you're all about! At least this way we feel justified in having to read your posts!! List of few of those things you're claiming it'll do more than the tp2, let alone android..

point out where I've bashed people within this season. only thing I've done was bash the fact that they turn certain threads offtopic over their own misinformation. I've listed those features a couple times already,go back and read those posts.

rrjskj 05-17-2011 10:41 AM

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hmm eric i can seem to recall a time when u called names in order to make a point need i say more and the same can be said to u when some1 post something u don't like or agree with use the damn ignore already or else why the hell do we have 1 .. how about we stay on topic this is getting boring and i wanna know if it is possible the op question brings up an interesting point i would hope that it would seeing how the specs for the hd2 are similar to the specs of the newer phone sorry op if i got off topic ..

darren.wlsn1 05-17-2011 02:36 PM

Re: TP2 OS on Arrive?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2102196)
point out where I've bashed people within this season. only thing I've done was bash the fact that they turn certain threads offtopic over their own misinformation. I've listed those features a couple times already,go back and read those posts.

imo calling the op's thread "absurd " is bashing him, its his question eric not your thread and he is free to ask anything he wants info on here at ppcg. a simple yes or no and why would answer the guys question.

three west 05-17-2011 04:47 PM

Re: TP2 OS on Arrive?
 
I'm with the OP, I'd be interested if that phone could run WM.
I'm excited for WP7, but I'm not sure its ready for primetime yet.

(as for eric, ppcgeeks is much easier & happier since I put him on ignore a while back)

Gee 05-18-2011 10:17 AM

Re: TP2 OS on Arrive?
 
[QUOTE=gTen;2102050]Nope..it might be possible years from now after people hack it up enough..but no guarantee and chances are you can assume its a no...

What plan do you currently have now?




I have the free and clear plan. 40 bucks - 1000 minutes. And the want me to "UPGRADE" to 450 minutes 70 bucks. How is that an upgrade. "F U Sprint rep."

lnando84 05-18-2011 06:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gee (Post 2102710)
I have the free and clear plan. 40 bucks - 1000 minutes. And the want me to "UPGRADE" to 450 minutes 70 bucks. How is that an upgrade. "F U Sprint rep."

That all depends on which way you look at it.. Have you ever went over your minutes or do you make alot of mobile-mobile calls? If so, then I'd say it might be considered an upgrade because you'd be able to make alot more than the 1000 (unlimited calls) and have only landline calls count against your 450 mins..

eric12341 05-18-2011 07:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gee (Post 2102710)




I have the free and clear plan. 40 bucks - 1000 minutes. And the want me to "UPGRADE" to 450 minutes 70 bucks. How is that an upgrade. "F U Sprint rep."

u get unlimited any mobile anytime calling, internet with no caps,GPS and messaging, the 450 only count if u are calling landlines. I think I've used maybe 100 minutes with landlines during my entire run with sprint so far.

Maxx134 05-19-2011 09:24 AM

Re: TP2 OS on Arrive?
 
if the processor and structure of the internals of the "Arrive" is similar to the HD2, then there could be hope.
The HD2 owners are lucky 2 have a device that can be hacked to do all 3 OSs, right?
Anyway if it was able, I would get it tomorow,lol
I have too many WM stuff to give up yet.
I am now wondering if an EVO can be made WinMo.. anyone know that?

Gee 05-19-2011 12:06 PM

Re: TP2 OS on Arrive?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2103115)
u get unlimited any mobile anytime calling, internet with no caps,GPS and messaging, the 450 only count if u are calling landlines. I think I've used maybe 100 minutes with landlines during my entire run with sprint so far.


I hear ya, Eric. But my current bill after taxes is still lower than the plan by itself. and now my TP2 mic just stop working after a hard reset. rrrrr what to do, what to do. .........

Gee 05-19-2011 12:22 PM

Re: TP2 OS on Arrive?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxx134 (Post 2103376)
if the processor and structure of the internals of the "Arrive" is similar to the HD2, then there could be hope.
The HD2 owners are lucky 2 have a device that can be hacked to do all 3 OSs, right?
Anyway if it was able, I would get it tomorow,lol
I have too many WM stuff to give up yet.
I am now wondering if an EVO can be made WinMo.. anyone know that?

Yes, they are very lucky. But the HD2 is for Tmobile right (pardion me if I should know this). It looks like T mobiles version of th EVO so it should work. HHHmmm i need a keyboard so the EVO shift with WM 6.5 would be perfect.

gTen 05-19-2011 04:03 PM

Re: TP2 OS on Arrive?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxx134 (Post 2103376)
if the processor and structure of the internals of the "Arrive" is similar to the HD2, then there could be hope.
The HD2 owners are lucky 2 have a device that can be hacked to do all 3 OSs, right?
Anyway if it was able, I would get it tomorow,lol
I have too many WM stuff to give up yet.
I am now wondering if an EVO can be made WinMo.. anyone know that?

yes its same processor..as for winmo on the Evo..not unless you want to see 100 Microsoft lawyers knocking on your door...


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