Moving from a Touch Pro 2 to an Android
 

I am contemplating a move from my Touch Pro 2 to an Android phone, as Sprint has terminated my contract for roaming data usage, and I will be switching to Verizon.

To back up my programs on my windows phone I use PPCbackup, is there a way to use this backup file to load the contacts to an Android phone?

I would prefer to do this without a Google account if possible, as I do not wish to sinc either of my phones with Google.

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Your TP2 backup file will not be compatible with anything on the Android phone. Relying on Google is the one thing keeping me from an Android phone. I'm an Outlook user and prefer not to have my info on an internet server.

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doesnt outlook house your information too if you plan on doing any OTA syncing unless you manually do it everytime you flash or have a backup on your sd

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i sync my stuff using google exchange (may soon switch to live) and myphone in which both i am very pleased with.

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Yeah, but Outlook stores the info in a file locally on my hard drive, not on someone's internet server where I have no control over it or who has access to it (a password is hardly a deterrent). I don't use Windows Live for that very reason. Why should I trust ANY company with my private info? When I sync, the information is going from my PC directly to my device, not across an internet connection. We adopt new technologies so fast these days that we not only don't stop to think what the risks are, we don't even know yet until someone finds a way to exploit them. What legal safeguards are there in place to protect our data from abuse and/or to keep Google or Microsoft from seeing/using our personal info for other means? It might seem benign to many, but my contacts and calendar could be used by marketers or other unscrupulous people for who knows what nefarious purposes. The other day I went into a store and about a half hour after I left I got a text from the store with advertising. I didn't give them my cell phone # or permission to text me, but they did. Found out that they have a system in place that captures cell phone info in the store and then sends advertising texts. Crossing their threshhold is considered tacit approval to do this even though I am totally unaware of it. Doesn't matter that I may have to pay for their text depending on what plan I have. I have to opt out after the fact to stop more texts from being sent and there's no guarantee another visit to the store won't get me back on their list.

The technology is moving faster than our ability to control it or even comprehend the ways in which it can be used or affect us. That's part of why I don't want to be forced to trust Google with my personal info.

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On old chinese proverb reads: "If you're gonna get screwed, might as well give it up to the best." I don't concern myself too much with worrying over who does what with my data from a corporate point of view... now personal malicious breaches are one thing but deciding between a yahoo, google, aol, or outlook houses my accounts all comes down to who can do it the most elloquently and add value to how I function daily by either making it sleek, seamless, fun or secure lol For me, and for right now, Google meets my needs.

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Like I said, I prefer to keep my data local whenever possible. Google is more advertising-centric. Like the old saying, there's no free lunch. At some point, they are all in it to get something out of it.

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I thought android syncs to outlook natively? I got a while till my contract is over, but I am counting the days until I can get the epic.

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Not natively, from what I understand. It requires Companionlink (not free) or some other 3rd party software and reports are that things like Notes and e-mail do not sync.

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I'm with you. Because it's new technology, we blithely follow the herd and later we wind up in trouble.
Google is in business for business, don't be fooled into thinking they are doing it for your good.
The same with "The Cloud". I'm not storing any of my information in any one's server that I have no control over.
Call me paranoid, but I have seen too many people get into trouble without knowing what they were getting into.

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i completely see what your saying. that sometimes we take our security vs privleges for granted. call me nieve if you will but im usually th kinda guy that will trust/respect you untill given a reason not. ive always used live myself with out any problems. and i use google now without any problems. like you say technology is advancing so much, i feel, if someone wants my info that bad all it really takes are just a few clicks of a mouse. on the case of the store "authorizing" itself to text you adverts with you beng unaware thats definatly where i draw the line and makes wonder how they were doing it.

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I can understand this for contacts and calendar items but if you are using outlook for your email, doesn't it grab it from some other company's server?

Don't get me wrong, I am hesitant about "the cloud" too, but isn't almost all of your info on some one else's server that you have no control over? The carrier's log every call you make and receive, every text message can be retrieved, every email too. Basically, almost everything we do on our phone can be tracked...computer too if you are using the internet at all.

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You guys are right, simply using the internet means you've granted access to much of your personal life. The issue is to whom and for what reason. There's no way to lock it down except to completely give up using the internet at all. What bothers me most about Google is their main existence involves advertising. Under the guise of providing a service (web search) they have built themselves into a mega-corporation whose real purpose is all about marketing. They don't have to sell your personal info to anyone, they can simply use it for themselves. With each new product they develop under the Google brand, your info becomes infinitely more valuable to them as does their ability to market directly to you. Sure, today that may seem innocuous enough...a few advertising e-mails, maybe a text or targeted ads on a website you visit through Google. But what about tomorrow? Who knows what this data can be used for? Maybe I'm paranoid, but we just seem so willing to easily trust these faceless entities with vasts amounts of our personal info. I know I can't stop it, but I will at least try to control it as much as possible, and that means "cloud computing" is not something I'm comfortable with. The pace of technology has far outstripped the law's ability to control it and make it safe, so some prudence is warranted, even if it is only a little. I do what I can. I'm not a Luddite by any means, but I am concerned and cautiously skeptical that a corporation would have my best interests in mind.

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+1 all things considered, there is no hiding from "Big Brother"

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That may be, but I don't have to facilitate it by putting the info there myself. With Google services, that's exactly what you're doing. You have to take it on trust that it is not only not misused by Google, but that it won't be by anyone else. Do you know Google well enough to give them such a high level of trust?

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Not to get everyone even more paranoid, but here is a good read about gmail. I think its old but I found it really interesting:

Creepy Gmail

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Okay guys... i decided to do this:

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/off-topic/...-bad-ugly.html

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I think its all a mute point.

To really use your Android phone you have to set up a Google Account (needed for Android Market), once you set up a google account I believe it transfers your contacts. So regardless of if you put your contacts into Google's servers manually and transfer them to your phone, or transfer them to your phone direct, I believe they are going to end up in Google's servers anyways.

I could be wrong, but I think there is no way to keep your contacts out of Googles servers, other than not getting a Google device.

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This sounds like the voice of reason to me. I hear Windows Phone 7 will eventually have to support direct/usb PC Outlook synchs and this seems to be complaint number 1 of users like us.

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The cloud is where everything is going. I embrace technology... That is why I use my ATM at the market and don't write a check. That is why I purchase things online using my ATM and PayPal. Technology is moving onward and if you don't adapt... You'll be left behind.
Because you don't like cloudbased computing or cloudbased storage doesn't mean that Microsoft and Android (Google) and possibly Apple aren't going in that very direction. Yeah... you can avoid it... My father in law woould rather drive to the bank and make a deposit in person with a teller than get direct deposit. He still writes checks and he leaves the ATM in the safe at home.
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It's easy to have a cavalier attitude about this until you become a victim. Pray you never have your identity stolen. You will quickly discover that while it is easy to spread your information, getting it and your life back from an identity thief takes and excruciatingly long time.

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I had my identity sold by my old mortgage company... Never did have much of a problem... I have however lost my wallett a couple of times in my lifetime. I've also been picpocketed once in LA as a kid (I had just cashed my check and they took it all) I have also witnessed several purse snatchings. I have not had a problem with my data on the cloud nor have I had money taken out of my account. Call me lucky on line I guess. I just refuse to live my life paranoid about what MAY happen. If that was the case I would just stay home... You know... It's dangerous to drive?
It's also dangerous to express your opinion on forums without the possibility of someone getting offended or someone calling you names. You should know... I've witnessed that too.
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You can transfer things out of PIM Backup 2.8 via Sms Backup & Android Restore...its an old app but it works...

essentially all a PIM backup is a zip file with text/csv files and etc in it...

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I ran across this: Sync android with outlook for free

have no idea if it works, but looks promising