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karossii 11-21-2010 03:23 PM

Sprint TP2 starting over... looking for advice
 
Hi all!

I had a TP2 for a while, and the very day I got it, I installed a ton of stuff starting with the (then latest) Mighty ROM, and several extensions to add Sprint functionality (Nav, TV, etc.) back into Mighty ROM.

During all of those months, I used my phone for little more than an actual phone, along with tethering it to my laptop a half dozen times or so; and several times felt bad that I had this wonderful device I was not using to the smallest degree of its potential.

Then last week the touchscreen went out (weird story, maybe for another post), and I got a free replacement. I have it up and running, and have not yet installed a single thing on the phone. So far, the only difference I am noticing from the MightyROM and the Sprint TP2, is that opn connections I cannot select wifi mode. As my laptop is out of commission at the moment, I can't check if I can still use the TP2 to tether, but if I remember correctly that is the main reason I did previously install Mighty ROM...

So... I would like to use my phone more fully now, starting fresh as it were. I would like to get some good games to play, I'd like to regularly use it to watch movies and listen to music, and I would like to make sure I can still tether it to my laptop (when I get that replaced soon).

So what would you recommend I install into this phone?
  • Should I stick with the Sprint core OS, or upgrade to Mighty ROM or some other similar OS?
  • What's the best way to ensure I can tether with good connection speeds (either USB or Bluetooth)?
  • Are there any specific good movie/music apps out there for this phone or PPCs in general?
  • What about games? I play all types, but have been hoping to find either a very good space trader type or fantasy RPG type for the phone (I never really looked all that hard before)... also I'd not mind some mindless games like tetris and card games, etc.
  • Anything cool you like to do with your TP2 that I may not have thought of yet?

Thanks!!!

darren.wlsn1 11-21-2010 03:32 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 starting over... looking for advice
 
op please read, moved.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/cdma-tp2-u...de-forums.html

karossii 11-21-2010 03:44 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 starting over... looking for advice
 
Thank you for fixing it! I forgot I was browsing a sub-forum, and accidentally posted there. Was about to post a request for someone to move it, but you beat me to it!

chardog 11-21-2010 04:21 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 starting over... looking for advice
 
My recommendation is task29, pocketshield, mr xrom 21889 or other 21889 version, and spb mobile shell.

I'de put down all my specs if interestested. The reason I exclude 21916 builds is that I've tried two of them, and they were both buggy with mobile shell and repeat notifications. IMO, very important factors.

mobile shell might not be very popular because it costs money, but imo, having a good phone that does what you want is worth that one time cost. (same deal with pocketshield)

sense isnt really intuitive, and it's too slow and buggy for my taste.

eric12341 11-21-2010 05:44 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 starting over... looking for advice
 
i have lead ROM on my tp2. its a 21916 and runs very stable and its also lean. i havent had any problems with the SOD which is a common occurrence in the 21889 roms sense is stable too and doesnt hang with sms like it did in the 21889 builds.

mig407 11-21-2010 06:37 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 starting over... looking for advice
 
the stock sprint 6.5 rom is absolute garbage!!! unlock,(task29...optional**),mightyrom (its stable its fast its proven, 'nuff said) ,inmuts arcsoft mms (way better than the stock crap),htc addicts cleanram, htc wifi router (i like it better than tethering), sh4ys raphael net speed boost...then it works nicely.

horndoctor 11-21-2010 07:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by karossii
Hi all!

I had a TP2 for a while, and the very day I got it, I installed a ton of stuff starting with the (then latest) Mighty ROM, and several extensions to add Sprint functionality (Nav, TV, etc.) back into Mighty ROM.

During all of those months, I used my phone for little more than an actual phone, along with tethering it to my laptop a half dozen times or so; and several times felt bad that I had this wonderful device I was not using to the smallest degree of its potential.

Then last week the touchscreen went out (weird story, maybe for another post), and I got a free replacement. I have it up and running, and have not yet installed a single thing on the phone. So far, the only difference I am noticing from the MightyROM and the Sprint TP2, is that opn connections I cannot select wifi mode. As my laptop is out of commission at the moment, I can't check if I can still use the TP2 to tether, but if I remember correctly that is the main reason I did previously install Mighty ROM...

So... I would like to use my phone more fully now, starting fresh as it were. I would like to get some good games to play, I'd like to regularly use it to watch movies and listen to music, and I would like to make sure I can still tether it to my laptop (when I get that replaced soon).

So what would you recommend I install into this phone?
  • Should I stick with the Sprint core OS, or upgrade to Mighty ROM or some other similar OS?
  • What's the best way to ensure I can tether with good connection speeds (either USB or Bluetooth)?
  • Are there any specific good movie/music apps out there for this phone or PPCs in general?
  • What about games? I play all types, but have been hoping to find either a very good space trader type or fantasy RPG type for the phone (I never really looked all that hard before)... also I'd not mind some mindless games like tetris and card games, etc.
  • Anything cool you like to do with your TP2 that I may not have thought of yet?

Thanks!!!

I recommend you use the Sprint 6.1 rom and install the Touch Pro 2 CleanUp/Tweaks cab. It will give you everything you mentioned.

eric12341 11-21-2010 07:57 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 starting over... looking for advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mig407 (Post 2000297)
the stock sprint 6.5 rom is absolute garbage!!! unlock,(task29...optional**),mightyrom (its stable its fast its proven, 'nuff said) ,inmuts arcsoft mms (way better than the stock crap),htc addicts cleanram, htc wifi router (i like it better than tethering), sh4ys raphael net speed boost...then it works nicely.

anything based off build 21889 is garbage

karossii 11-21-2010 08:51 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 starting over... looking for advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by horndoctor (Post 2000333)
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I recommend you use the Sprint 6.1 rom and install the Touch Pro 2 CleanUp/Tweaks cab. It will give you everything you mentioned.

So far this sounds like the simplest and most elegant solution, assuming it does indeed work. Thanks much for posting it. Now, where do I find the 6.1 ROM>? All I can find are 6.5 ROMs...

chardog 11-21-2010 09:06 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 starting over... looking for advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2000269)
i have lead ROM on my tp2. its a 21916 and runs very stable and its also lean. i havent had any problems with the SOD which is a common occurrence in the 21889 roms sense is stable too and doesnt hang with sms like it did in the 21889 builds.

how long have you ran 21889 to say sms hang and general stability is an issue? After my most recent incident, I'm back on 4/10/10 mr x rom. I would have loved 21916, but it cant do basic things like reminder notifications and play friendly with mobile shell. Doesnt play very friendly with pocketshield either.

I flashed LEAD and NRG, and neither could do this. My best guess is build rather than isolated incident. I couldnt run 21916 long enough to get SOD's but long enough to see it was very buggy with MS and PS.

chardog 11-21-2010 09:12 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 starting over... looking for advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by karossii (Post 2000362)
So far this sounds like the simplest and most elegant solution, assuming it does indeed work. Thanks much for posting it. Now, where do I find the 6.1 ROM>? All I can find are 6.5 ROMs...

6.1's are stable, but it's kinda lame feature wise, and support is very difficult to come by. In general, most TP2 users will get one problem or another, and it helps to have good support.

6.1 is not finger friendly and really designed for stylus. It does have glitches as well. I was using it for a while but quit due to the poor social networking support and swype doesnt work well with it. it always loses settings on soft reset.

eric12341 11-22-2010 01:26 AM

Re: Sprint TP2 starting over... looking for advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by horndoctor (Post 2000333)
Wirelessly posted (htc Pocket PC: Opera/9.80 (Windows Mobile; WCE; Opera Mobi/WMD-50433; U; en) Presto/2.4.13 Version/10.00)



I recommend you use the Sprint 6.1 rom and install the Touch Pro 2 CleanUp/Tweaks cab. It will give you everything you mentioned.

Wow, how can you get away with this without being attacked?
Quote:

Originally Posted by chardog (Post 2000372)
how long have you ran 21889 to say sms hang and general stability is an issue? After my most recent incident, I'm back on 4/10/10 mr x rom. I would have loved 21916, but it cant do basic things like reminder notifications and play friendly with mobile shell. Doesnt play very friendly with pocketshield either.

I flashed LEAD and NRG, and neither could do this. My best guess is build rather than isolated incident. I couldnt run 21916 long enough to get SOD's but long enough to see it was very buggy with MS and PS.

i got my tp2 on 5/17/10 and it had the stock 6.5 rom on it which is also a 21889, it had some SODs, sms hangs and stability issues around 6/20 i got tired of it and decided to try the latest mighty rom, while it was more stable and had a little bit more ram than the stock 6.5 it still had the same amount of SODs as the stock did, then after a week on that i went to mighty rom full force and stayed there till i learned of blackout rom(couldnt stay on that because of lack of spanish sip). on the latest LEAD i get my notifications just fine but maybe thats because i use sense and not M$.but no SODs on any of the 21916 that ive tried and theyre almost as stable as the 6.1 roms

Quote:

Originally Posted by chardog (Post 2000375)
6.1's are stable, but it's kinda lame feature wise, and support is very difficult to come by. In general, most TP2 users will get one problem or another, and it helps to have good support.

6.1 is not finger friendly and really designed for stylus. It does have glitches as well. I was using it for a while but quit due to the poor social networking support and swype doesnt work well with it. it always loses settings on soft reset.

i didnt have a need for my stylus alot on 6.1, just to resize some boxes in excel, thats about it. some of the finger friendliness that u now see in 6.5 started in the high 6.1 builds (21052+)

boredandtattooed 11-22-2010 01:30 AM

Re: Sprint TP2 starting over... looking for advice
 
I say NRG is the way to go... One of the most popular, stable, skinned out(several versions always), has support here on PPCG and updates on twitter for new Roms...

eric12341 11-22-2010 01:44 AM

Re: Sprint TP2 starting over... looking for advice
 
id rather not flash a new rom every other day, thats how often he seems to update his roms

karossii 11-22-2010 02:12 AM

Re: Sprint TP2 starting over... looking for advice
 
Maybe some more info about my style and intended usage would be helpful...

  • I don't use twitter and hopefully never will.
  • I use facebook 90% for the games, which I can't access on a mobile device; the other 10% I am fine doing at my leisure on my PC or laptop.
  • I get way too many emails each day (hour, minute, etc.) to have them come to my phone... my average, after spam filters remove almost all spam, is just about 250 per day (mostly during business hours).
  • Whenever I can avoid texting, SMS, MMS, whatever you want to call it, I do. I much prefer to use a phone to talk, and a computer to send an email.
  • I'd like to use my phone to play games, watch movies, listen to music, and call family, friends and business associates. I do also make use of the GPS/Nav functions, and occasionally get online to look something up, though I get annoyed with most sites' mobile versions so not as much as I had hoped to. It has also replaced my watch and alarm clock.
  • I'd like the phone's battery to last as long as possible while I use it, whether it is in my pocket, on a call, or playing a movie or game...
  • I'd like the phone to run smoothly and reliably at all times, with as little maintenance and flashing/updating/etc. as possible.
  • When I have my laptop back, I'd love to use my phone as a modem or wifi router. I don't mind a USB connection, but bluetooth or wireless is nicer...

Thanks!

chardog 11-22-2010 10:59 AM

Re: Sprint TP2 starting over... looking for advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by karossii (Post 2000514)
Maybe some more info about my style and intended usage would be helpful...

  • I don't use twitter and hopefully never will.
  • I use facebook 90% for the games, which I can't access on a mobile device; the other 10% I am fine doing at my leisure on my PC or laptop.
  • I get way too many emails each day (hour, minute, etc.) to have them come to my phone... my average, after spam filters remove almost all spam, is just about 250 per day (mostly during business hours).
  • Whenever I can avoid texting, SMS, MMS, whatever you want to call it, I do. I much prefer to use a phone to talk, and a computer to send an email.
  • I'd like to use my phone to play games, watch movies, listen to music, and call family, friends and business associates. I do also make use of the GPS/Nav functions, and occasionally get online to look something up, though I get annoyed with most sites' mobile versions so not as much as I had hoped to. It has also replaced my watch and alarm clock.
  • I'd like the phone's battery to last as long as possible while I use it, whether it is in my pocket, on a call, or playing a movie or game...
  • I'd like the phone to run smoothly and reliably at all times, with as little maintenance and flashing/updating/etc. as possible.
  • When I have my laptop back, I'd love to use my phone as a modem or wifi router. I don't mind a USB connection, but bluetooth or wireless is nicer...

Thanks!

no twitter, any rom is fine

6.1 has the weakest facebook integration out of all roms

if you dont use email, any rom is fine. I dont think 250 a day is a problem and if it gets to be too much, change your download intervals. an untouched 6.1 is slow browsing through emails. 6.5 is better if you read a lot of emails

any rom is good to talk

any rom for apps

hit and miss for battery

6.1 more reliability, but you can easily make 6.5 as reliable with a soft reset everyday (process can be automated with a number of tools)

custom rom for wifi router; any rom applicable

horndoctor 11-22-2010 03:52 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 starting over... looking for advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by karossii (Post 2000362)
So far this sounds like the simplest and most elegant solution, assuming it does indeed work. Thanks much for posting it. Now, where do I find the 6.1 ROM>? All I can find are 6.5 ROMs...

;) Here is the 6.1 Rom:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/1232775-post1.html

Here is the Cleanup/Tweaks thread:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/htc-touch-...2-cleanup.html

stevenuzi 11-22-2010 06:13 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 starting over... looking for advice
 
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I highly recommend phone weaver for saving battery life. I have it set up to have the internet disabled all day cause i dont need it. Having no internet on will save battery life big time. I would recommend the medhill rom 8-30 to be exact, this is the closest rom i have used which is as stable as the stock rom. If you want a smooth rom with no incidents, stick to the sprint 6.5 stock rom.

eric12341 11-23-2010 07:44 AM

Re: Sprint TP2 starting over... looking for advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stevenuzi (Post 2000904)
If you want a smooth rom with no incidents, stick to the sprint 6.5 stock rom.

are you on crack on something? that rom has been considered to be one of the most unstable by many users

stevenuzi 11-23-2010 12:10 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 starting over... looking for advice
 
95 percent of the custom roms have abnormal behavior, this happends when you combine a bunch of drivers and os's of different phones. If you are not into updating your rom every couple of days the stock rom is sufficient.

eric12341 11-24-2010 04:07 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 starting over... looking for advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stevenuzi (Post 2001362)
95 percent of the custom roms have abnormal behavior, this happends when you combine a bunch of drivers and os's of different phones. If you are not into updating your rom every couple of days the stock rom is sufficient.

jaja seriously? the 6.1 stock rom works much better. only custom roms that had abnormal behavior were vins neodium (9/15) and lead rom (10/24) but both those are in process of being fixed. u must not have been flashing them right because all the custom roms i was on were more stable than the stock 6.5 rom.

WestCoastGhost 11-24-2010 05:59 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 starting over... looking for advice
 
Custom ROM's are nice and can be very fast. However, in my limited experience there is always something that doesn't work right. Could be TV, messaging issues, email or anything. Every custom ROM I have flashed had at least one issue with it. My advice, use stock 6.5 with the ChainFire turbo driver FTW....driver is available on xda or you can pay at windows marketplace. xda download deserves donation, it is that good! Smooth, fast and everything works......just my 2 cents...

eric12341 11-24-2010 06:23 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 starting over... looking for advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WestCoastGhost (Post 2001700)
Custom ROM's are nice and can be very fast. However, in my limited experience there is always something that doesn't work right. Could be TV, messaging issues, email or anything. Every custom ROM I have flashed had at least one issue with it. My advice, use stock 6.5 with the ChainFire turbo driver FTW....driver is available on xda or you can pay at windows marketplace. xda download deserves donation, it is that good! Smooth, fast and everything works......just my 2 cents...

jaja WOW!! another menos de cincuenta trying to say that the stock 6.5 is better than custom roms or even the stock 6.1,that driver may speed things up but it still wont help the SODs and missing component issues that are in that rom.

stevenuzi 11-24-2010 08:47 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 starting over... looking for advice
 
To everybody who wants to compare stock roms to custom roms. The truth is, there is no better rom. If the stock rom was perfect, there would be no need for a custom rom. If the custom roms were perfect, they wouldnt need to be updated everyday and there wouldn't be 1000's of chefs. The dude who started this thread was a business man who wants his phone to run stable. If you go into the custom rom world, you have to always update and always check what rom is better. Not everyone has the time or patience. Its that simple. I have been in the custom rom world since my trusty mogul. Its fun to always put a new rom on, but its not for everyone.

eric12341 11-24-2010 09:46 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 starting over... looking for advice
 
wow thats a very interesting change of and contradicting stance menos de cincuenta. the stock 6.1 rom is more stable than the stock 6.5 or any custom roms that were made from build 21889, but the 21916 builds of 6.5 are just as stable as the stock 6.1 rom or the custom 6.1 roms with higher builds (21056 and 21057).

stevenuzi 11-24-2010 10:19 PM

Re: Sprint TP2 starting over... looking for advice
 
That answers everyone's question. Well actually you havent taken a stance at all. What rom is the best to use thats the most stable, thats what the thread is about. I would say use the sprint 6.5 rom if you dont want to install new roms everyday. Best custom rom, mediumhill. jajaja

WestCoastGhost 11-25-2010 12:01 AM

Re: Sprint TP2 starting over... looking for advice
 
"jaja WOW!! another menos de cincuenta trying to say that the stock 6.5 is better than custom roms or even the stock 6.1,that driver may speed things up but it still wont help the SODs and missing component issues that are in that rom."

None of the garbage you talk about here has been my experience. If it was I would not have shared the info. I was responding to the original post, not you and your 2 cents. You are entitled to your opinion and I will respect it.....and I am entitled to mine without your disrespectful garbage attached.....stock 6.5 is stable, in my opinion, and would best meet the OP needs as I understand them....his ultimate ROM experience may or may not be the same as mine. Infantile commentary assists no one......

eric12341 11-25-2010 01:09 AM

Re: Sprint TP2 starting over... looking for advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stevenuzi (Post 2001829)
That answers everyone's question. Well actually you havent taken a stance at all. What rom is the best to use thats the most stable, thats what the thread is about. I would say use the sprint 6.5 rom if you dont want to install new roms everyday. Best custom rom, mediumhill. jajaja

i did offer my stance i said that any 21916 6.5 custom rom is very stable and are almost as stable and reliable as the stock 6.1 rom.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WestCoastGhost (Post 2001866)
"jaja WOW!! another menos de cincuenta trying to say that the stock 6.5 is better than custom roms or even the stock 6.1,that driver may speed things up but it still wont help the SODs and missing component issues that are in that rom."

None of the garbage you talk about here has been my experience. If it was I would not have shared the info. I was responding to the original post, not you and your 2 cents. You are entitled to your opinion and I will respect it.....and I am entitled to mine without your disrespectful garbage attached.....stock 6.5 is stable, in my opinion, and would best meet the OP needs as I understand them....his ultimate ROM experience may or may not be the same as mine. Infantile commentary assists no one......

look at my rep and post count and compare it to urs before u start saying that what i say is garbage and .02, i think i know what im talking about. thats all i have to say.

ps.

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WestCoastGhost 11-25-2010 01:38 AM

Re: Sprint TP2 starting over... looking for advice
 
its about brains and respect, not post count.....thanks, and i'm out!

vin255764 11-25-2010 01:45 AM

Re: Sprint TP2 starting over... looking for advice
 
Usually Im ignoring this kind of discussions but honestly,whats up with WM 6.1,WM 6.5?

WM 6.5.5 is rock solid.If somebody dont beleave it-oh well,it their problem lol (for more info read my signature)

Unfortunately Chainfire driver doesnt work on TP2 at all.
I even PM him few months ago with the bounty thread offer..but the guy using HD2.It will not accelerate a single frame.

SAY "YES" to WM 6.5.5 !!!

btw happy Turkey Day everyone

eric12341 11-25-2010 02:03 AM

Re: Sprint TP2 starting over... looking for advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vin255764 (Post 2001923)
Usually Im ignoring this kind of discussions but honestly,whats up with WM 6.1,WM 6.5?

WM 6.5.5 is rock solid.If somebody dont beleave it-oh well,it their problem lol (for more info read my signature)

Unfortunately Chainfire driver doesnt work on TP2 at all.
I even PM him few months ago with the bounty thread offer..but the guy using HD2.It will not accelerate a single frame.

SAY "YES" to WM 6.5.5 !!!

btw happy Turkey Day everyone

wouldnt 6.5.3 be more stable since it was actually released? and im sure they are but some apps i use just dont display right such as slacker radio,assistant free and fim.

vin255764 11-25-2010 02:15 AM

Re: Sprint TP2 starting over... looking for advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2001926)
wouldnt 6.5.3 be more stable since it was actually released? and im sure they are but some apps i use just dont display right such as slacker radio,assistant free and fim.

Its released in China.
I heard the same story 2 years ago when WM 6.5 came out and everyone was like "ohh,no,its not compatible with this and that..."
The truth is nobody contacted slacker or any other poor written app makers to fix the issue


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