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tryinghard 07-28-2010 02:44 PM

RAM usage Too high after CHT
 
First the basics

1. Sprint TP2 6.5
2. ROM - Mighty ROM
3. CHT 1.8.5 and CHT Editor 1.8.5

My Memeory usage has gone upto 71%, my sense is not very fluid and has a log when I drag and move.

Before CHT the memory was at 58-59%. Is there a way to optimize that?

Will really appreciate any advice.

deadwrong03 07-28-2010 02:55 PM

Wirelessly posted (Opera/9.7 (WindowsMobile; PPC; Opera Mobi/35267; U; en; Presto/2.1.1))

i had the same issue i ended up removing that application. memory usage was waay to high but i love the app jus too much memory used

cmajewsk 07-28-2010 03:12 PM

Re: RAM usage Too high after CHT
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tryinghard (Post 1887018)
First the basics

1. Sprint TP2 6.5
2. ROM - Mighty ROM
3. CHT 1.8.5 and CHT Editor 1.8.5

My Memeory usage has gone upto 71%, my sense is not very fluid and has a log when I drag and move.

Before CHT the memory was at 58-59%. Is there a way to optimize that?

Will really appreciate any advice.

Welcome to the wonderful world of CHT. Even if you turn off all the extra Levels (Extra Space, Quick Links Grid, Extra Space) or limit the ones you are going to enable, it still does not seem to reduce the memory allocation significantly. Just having the app overlay on Sense is enough to gobble up a lot of available RAM. I am not trying to shill for any particular ROM, but VIN's Pluto ROM runs fairly smooth with CHT enabled, and it does retain a decent amount of memory. Never like mighty's stuff...:mrgreen:

tryinghard 07-28-2010 03:16 PM

Re: RAM usage Too high after CHT
 
Hmmm... Vin's pluto, let me check that out... any more suggestions

Wesley762 07-28-2010 03:17 PM

Re: RAM usage Too high after CHT
 
MightyROM

Mr. X

tryinghard 07-28-2010 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Wesley762 (Post 1887071)
MightyROM

Mr. X

What about them. I do have Mighty ROM already.

bondosho 07-28-2010 03:49 PM

Re: RAM usage Too high after CHT
 
This was the reason I stopped using Cookie. IMHO, it's a worthless mod, and not needed. I was tired of the "out of memory" messages in Opera, and the need to reset often.

Wesley762 07-28-2010 04:19 PM

Re: RAM usage Too high after CHT
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tryinghard (Post 1887098)
What about them. I do have Mighty ROM already.

I am running MightyROM Full Force and runs just fine for me.

These are what I am using for settings.....................

I do have the Stocks tab and the album tab turned off, and I have not added any other tabs.

It update Weather every 30 mins. and I have the animations turned off.

I have 2 e-mail account 1 is setup on exchange and peak time's are set for every day from
7am to 11pm and one checks every 2 hours.

Twitter updates every 15 mins and Facebook every 2 hours.

Almost Never have any more than 200 texts on my phone, as I archive them when it hits that point.

My Inbox stay pretty lean as I move stuff to folders pretty regularly.

I stopped using cleanRAM because for some reason it was causing issue's for me.

If its running slow share what your settings are and what programs you are running with it.

flickmaker 07-28-2010 04:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bondosho (Post 1887124)
This was the reason I stopped using Cookie. IMHO, it's a worthless mod, and not needed. I was tired of the "out of memory" messages in Opera, and the need to reset often.

It does use a little more ram than before. But to say "its a worthless mod" is just crazy.

chronster 07-28-2010 04:34 PM

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I ended up removing it. I couldn't find anything. I even left out many options, like more than one frame of quicklinks. I had a single page of quicklinks, no background or text, no page indicator, and simple animation enabled. I was still getting into the 80's on mem usage.

:/

No1ustad 07-28-2010 04:37 PM

Re: RAM usage Too high after CHT
 
take ur favorite ROM, and just mess with the pagepool a bit. you may or may not be able to find a golden spot for u.

tryinghard 07-28-2010 05:33 PM

Re: RAM usage Too high after CHT
 
thanks a lot guys, I still a newbie, so don't know much about anything actually. I don't know where to look pagepool.

As far as my settings are concerned, I have 4x5 quicklinks 3 pages. I use only 2. At the bottom I have 5 tabs, home, mail, text, weather and settings (not sure how to change that since with CHT I do not get an option)
I have total 8 cabs, I guess the biggest is BING, CHT and MArketplace.

I have 3 emails, one as itmes arrive, 2nd as 15 minutes and 3rd as 1 hour. Weather updates every 1 hour. I don't have any text messages at all. I don't use FB or twitter.

Wesley762 07-28-2010 05:37 PM

Re: RAM usage Too high after CHT
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tryinghard (Post 1887305)
thanks a lot guys, I still a newbie, so don't know much about anything actually. I don't know where to look pagepool.

As far as my settings are concerned, I have 4x5 quicklinks 3 pages. I use only 2. At the bottom I have 5 tabs, home, mail, text, weather and settings (not sure how to change that since with CHT I do not get an option)
I have total 8 cabs, I guess the biggest is BING, CHT and MArketplace.

I have 3 emails, one as itmes arrive, 2nd as 15 minutes and 3rd as 1 hour. Weather updates every 1 hour. I don't have any text messages at all. I don't use FB or twitter.

How many e-mails you have downloaded?

No1ustad 07-28-2010 05:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tryinghard (Post 1887305)
thanks a lot guys, I still a newbie, so don't know much about anything actually. I don't know where to look pagepool.

some reading material if you so choose :)
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=50754

FP5241 07-28-2010 06:22 PM

Re: RAM usage Too high after CHT
 
I'm on the MR2 fixed Rom (Verizon) and my usage is up as well, but I was under the impression that it was more of a 6.5 issue then a CHT issue. I can cruise all day under 65% memory usage but the second I open up any major programs (Opera Mini, Youtube etc.) usage shoot up to and stays at 80+%. I use RAM Sweeper which helps but the process repeats itself daily. I haven't had any lag on CHT and the only limitation I have is I usually toggle the weather animations off. I miss 6.1 + Dynamic Resource Proxy... :(

bondosho 07-28-2010 06:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flickmaker (Post 1887182)
It does use a little more ram than before. But to say "its a worthless mod" is just crazy.

Because we need 5 home screens to tell us what time it is :headbang:

Personal opinion...I just don't like it.

UstesGreenridge 07-28-2010 07:18 PM

Re: RAM usage Too high after CHT
 
Vin Pluto works smooth for me

eric12341 07-28-2010 07:58 PM

Re: RAM usage Too high after CHT
 
this is exactly y I switched to blackout rom 6.1 it has sense 2.5 and boots with 39% ram used

tryinghard 07-28-2010 08:35 PM

Re: RAM usage Too high after CHT
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by UstesGreenridge (Post 1887474)
Vin Pluto works smooth for me

Do you need a CHT with vin pluto or does it has a home screen of its own. I basically need a 4x5 2 page quick links, with toggle buttons. Besides that I don't really need CHT, I do not plan to use wallpapers setting or any other complicated functionality. Want a basic ROM, that runs fast, and has decent functionality and is stable.

I have about 100 mails in all 3 mail accounts combined.

PropagandaX 07-28-2010 08:51 PM

Re: RAM usage Too high after CHT
 
I dont use it either because of the slowness and memory, all i want is 4 row shortcuts and 2 calender appointments.

DatBoiDame 07-28-2010 08:54 PM

Re: RAM usage Too high after CHT
 
CHT isn't for everyone's taste, personally I love it. Im running NRG's July 24th ROM w/ CHT cooked in and it does go as high as 65% but never goes any higher and my sense stays fluid, stable and fast. When ur running CHT on a TP2 u have to go under Miscellaneous settings and change your animation to Optimized or Simple to keep everything running smooth. Also I keep my emails & text messages under a few hundred just to be safe but I suggest a ROM with CHT cooked in, Im not a fan of installing CHT separate... Just never seems to work as well

EDIT: Maybe changing your PagePool and reflashing the ROM might help with CHT (Just a thought, could be wrong)

krwshl 07-28-2010 09:08 PM

Re: RAM usage Too high after CHT
 
I uninstalled it too :( Made my phone too slow.

I just want to be able to add call history below the calendar bar on the today screen ...

kern417 07-28-2010 09:16 PM

Re: RAM usage Too high after CHT
 
What do you guys recommend as a pagepool? I haven't messed with it for a while, almost forgot you could.

Back when I had a Touch Pro i used to set SSK roms to 0 pagepool do you think that would help or just make CHT take up as much available RAM as it could?

I'm probably going to try it out anyway but just wondering your thoughts

chronster 07-28-2010 10:59 PM

Re: RAM usage Too high after CHT
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kern417 (Post 1887610)
What do you guys recommend as a pagepool? I haven't messed with it for a while, almost forgot you could.

Back when I had a Touch Pro i used to set SSK roms to 0 pagepool do you think that would help or just make CHT take up as much available RAM as it could?

I'm probably going to try it out anyway but just wondering your thoughts

the rom I'm using uses 24 I think. Runs fine.

tryinghard 07-28-2010 11:42 PM

Re: RAM usage Too high after CHT
 
How do I check the pagepool. Also if I reflash the rom I will have to do all the settings again. Someone told me that I can save all my settings somewhere and can get it back after reflashing. I already have a pim backup.

DatBoiDame 07-29-2010 12:01 AM

Re: RAM usage Too high after CHT
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tryinghard (Post 1887751)
How do I check the pagepool. Also if I reflash the rom I will have to do all the settings again. Someone told me that I can save all my settings somewhere and can get it back after reflashing. I already have a pim backup.

+1 I never backup settings because that can carry flaws & bugs with it from a bad ROM, I always redo my settings manually to be safe. I have no idea how to check the pagepool this is something I want to know too.

kern417 07-29-2010 05:46 AM

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this is the pagepool changer i use. you have to unzip the exe for the rom you are running into a folder, and in that folder it will have the ruu_signed.nbh file. run this app and browse to the nbh file and it will tell you the pagepool. you can adjust the value and click 'change to' to change the pagepool. i am trying out 0 on MightyRom Full Force which is basically dynamic, it opens up sources as i need it. usually it is 12 and i heard Mighy recommends anywhere between 8 and 12 for sense 2.5 roms

kern417 07-29-2010 08:04 PM

Re: RAM usage Too high after CHT
 
just reporting back after a little less than 24 hours on a rom with CHT and a 0 pagepool it does NOT solve RAM issues as was probably expected, but does make the phone lightning fast. Im sorry to say however, that it has actually gotten up to 90%+ ram at one point...basically it doesnt fully close out of any program. So the programs run smoothly especially if u only use a few regularly, but if you often do different things and switch between different tasks expect a few resets.

I think i will be sticking with it however just for the speed improvement. Another option would be to make a high pagepool like the 24 that chronster recommended, it'll allow usage to go higher but still prevent it from going 'too high' (but then again that depends on what you consider 'too high')

Moral of the story, lower pagepool may slow it down but will limit usage. Higher pagepool will make it faster at the risk of high RAM usage

tryinghard 07-29-2010 10:09 PM

Re: RAM usage Too high after CHT
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kern417 (Post 1887993)
this is the pagepool changer i use. you have to unzip the exe for the rom you are running into a folder, and in that folder it will have the ruu_signed.nbh file. run this app and browse to the nbh file and it will tell you the pagepool. you can adjust the value and click 'change to' to change the pagepool. i am trying out 0 on MightyRom Full Force which is basically dynamic, it opens up sources as i need it. usually it is 12 and i heard Mighy recommends anywhere between 8 and 12 for sense 2.5 roms

I have changed the pagepool on my laptop. Now do I have to re flash the Mighty Rom, or just replace the changed .nbh file on my phone.

DatBoiDame 07-29-2010 10:12 PM

Re: RAM usage Too high after CHT
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kern417 (Post 1888974)
just reporting back after a little less than 24 hours on a rom with CHT and a 0 pagepool it does NOT solve RAM issues as was probably expected, but does make the phone lightning fast. Im sorry to say however, that it has actually gotten up to 90%+ ram at one point...basically it doesnt fully close out of any program. So the programs run smoothly especially if u only use a few regularly, but if you often do different things and switch between different tasks expect a few resets.

I think i will be sticking with it however just for the speed improvement. Another option would be to make a high pagepool like the 24 that chronster recommended, it'll allow usage to go higher but still prevent it from going 'too high' (but then again that depends on what you consider 'too high')

Moral of the story, lower pagepool may slow it down but will limit usage. Higher pagepool will make it faster at the risk of high RAM usage

As far as programs not fully closing, it would help to close them manually by holding the send key (not during a call) that usually allows u to end tasks that may not show up by tapping the task manager in the top right corner... Works for me

chardog 07-29-2010 11:59 PM

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1 page of 16, auto hide the slider, set at 4 seconds.

kern417 07-30-2010 05:28 AM

Re: RAM usage Too high after CHT
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tryinghard (Post 1889175)
I have changed the pagepool on my laptop. Now do I have to re flash the Mighty Rom, or just replace the changed .nbh file on my phone.

u can put the nbh file on the root of ur SD card and flash that way or use the ROMUpdateUtility application (should be in the same folder as the nbh file) to flash while your Touch Pro2 is connected via Active Sync

kern417 07-30-2010 05:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DatBoiDame (Post 1889185)
As far as programs not fully closing, it would help to close them manually by holding the send key (not during a call) that usually allows u to end tasks that may not show up by tapping the task manager in the top right corner... Works for me

hmm that is something ive actually never heard of. I tried it and it made a beeping sound so i assume its doing something lol can u further explain whats happening in the background? its just closing out of running processes?

digiblur 07-30-2010 09:53 AM

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I feel the same way.... I like the mod, but I'm getting tired of the running out of RAM lately. Tried just about everything to solve it. Off to go find some nice running clean ROMs and go back old school.

vin255764 07-30-2010 11:35 AM

Re: RAM usage Too high after CHT
 
Just set your pagepool between 12-16mb.I always set mine to 12
If you set it to zero,that means is a full trust to Win Mo SYS to manage your RAM,which is not the best idea.Win Mo is good,but not that good.
Some people had luck with 32mb,but for its a mem hog,so Im sticking with 12-16 area

DatBoiDame 07-30-2010 01:22 PM

Re: RAM usage Too high after CHT
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kern417 (Post 1889579)
hmm that is something ive actually never heard of. I tried it and it made a beeping sound so i assume its doing something lol can u further explain whats happening in the background? its just closing out of running processes?

Nothing happens in the background. Im running NRG ROM and when u hold the send key with his roms it brings up another task manager that will display programs that are open that the other task manager missed (in the top right corner)


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