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slochild 07-19-2010 03:21 PM

U.S. Cellular's new National 3G Data Coverage requires ROM upgrade on TP2
 
U.S. Cellular (aka uscc, usc) enabled National 3G Data Coverage capability on July 16 for all postpaid data capable handsets (National 3G on Wireless Modems will launch at a later date).
  • Starting on July 16, a new PRL for National 3G Data coverage will be available on the OTA Platform for customers to download.
  • The HTC Touch Pro II (PPC 6875) and the HTC Snap (PPC 6175) require a software upgrade in order for the new 3G Data Roaming PRL to be downloaded. The software upgrade files are available at www.uscellular.com/htcupdate. Upon completion of the download, customers will need to perform a *228 to receive the most current national 3G Data Coverage PRL.

Data for the latest software version is shown below


HTC Touch Pro II

ROM version: 2.01.573.3
Radio version: 2.18.02WV

PRI version: 2.43
If your software version information does not match then you will need the update before the 3G Data Roaming PRL can be downloaded.




OK - Now for my questions: How can I get the new radio, etc., into my phone and still be able to use my ROM of choice? Is it possible to rip the info out of this new official ROM and "inject" it into another prebuilt ROM, or does the whole thing have to be recooked? Also, looking at the info that is supposed to be checked prior to being able to update to the nationwide prl: I know that the ROM version is just the name of the new one, and I see that the radio has been upgraded from 2.18.00WV to 2.18.02WV, but the PRI being upgraded from 1.63_027 to 2.43 has me at a bit of a loss. I guess what I'm asking is "what is a pri (not prl) and is the upgrade required for this new nation wide roaming to work?"



In short - HELP!



Thanks

docchaos 07-19-2010 05:42 PM

Re: U.S. Cellular's new National 3G Data Coverage requires ROM upgrade on TP2
 
I am now back to stock, from MightyROM. This update worked well, and I will be reflashing as soon as I am back home (traveling for a week).
I would assume, flash the NEW stock rom, with radio update, then flash away again like normal.

drewcam888 07-19-2010 07:30 PM

Re: U.S. Cellular's new National 3G Data Coverage requires ROM upgrade on TP2
 
flash the new stock rom. Then go back to your custom rom. The pri and radio will stay and the new rom will replace the stock rom

slochild 07-20-2010 12:16 AM

Re: U.S. Cellular's new National 3G Data Coverage requires ROM upgrade on TP2
 
Well that's a relief - thanks for letting me know. I had it stuck in my head that the radio was cooked into the roms here.

So why do people talk about a rom being based on a sprint or VW radio,etc.? Is it an optional thing, or does no one do it and I'm just too slo to get it?

slochild 07-20-2010 07:53 AM

Re: U.S. Cellular's new National 3G Data Coverage requires ROM upgrade on TP2
 
In my pathetic attempts to learn more about how roms are built and the structure I've found out the following:
The custom rom I use only has a windows.nb inside the .nbh (cool!)
The new uscc version is an exe that installs both a .cab, called "PPST_100519_RhodiumW_USC_2.43_41key.sa.cab" which I believe just adds a reg entry and runs a check for the entry to determine if it should continue on to the flash (but it may do more), and the .nbh which consists of spl.nb, splash.nb , splash2.nb, radio.nb, and windows.nb (of course the .nb file names differ depending on what program I use to extract them, but you get the point).

So, my question is this: Can I just make a new .nbh with only the spl and radio and thus maintain all my settings and still get the ability to download the new PRL? If not, why? If so, why the heck wouldn't have uscc done that in the first place?!


Thanks

cg1977 07-20-2010 06:13 PM

Re: U.S. Cellular's new National 3G Data Coverage requires ROM upgrade on TP2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slochild (Post 1874793)
In my pathetic attempts to learn more about how roms are built and the structure I've found out the following:
The custom rom I use only has a windows.nb inside the .nbh (cool!)
The new uscc version is an exe that installs both a .cab, called "PPST_100519_RhodiumW_USC_2.43_41key.sa.cab" which I believe just adds a reg entry and runs a check for the entry to determine if it should continue on to the flash (but it may do more), and the .nbh which consists of spl.nb, splash.nb , splash2.nb, radio.nb, and windows.nb (of course the .nb file names differ depending on what program I use to extract them, but you get the point).

So, my question is this: Can I just make a new .nbh with only the spl and radio and thus maintain all my settings and still get the ability to download the new PRL? If not, why? If so, why the heck wouldn't have uscc done that in the first place?!


Thanks

Sorry, I am just bumping because I am curious of this as well.

razorloves 07-20-2010 06:22 PM

Re: U.S. Cellular's new National 3G Data Coverage requires ROM upgrade on TP2
 
the only thing different in the new rom is the pri and radio. the ppst cab file installs the pri. and then you can flash the radio seperate. i'm not able to test, but i have a hunch that all you need is the new pri. so, if you just update your pri, then you should be able to do the 3g roaming.

to update the pri, install the ppst cab, then open file explorer and navigate to windows folder and open the ppst file.

but...as recommended above by drewcam888, i think it's best to flash the whole rom, then flash to whatever custom rom you want.

slochild 07-20-2010 08:31 PM

Re: U.S. Cellular's new National 3G Data Coverage requires ROM upgrade on TP2
 
OK, a ROM I wanted was released today anyway so this is what I did:
I did the *228 PRL update and it came out as version 17098. Then I ran the full uscc install. The radio went from 2.18.00WV to 2.18.02WV and the PRI went from 1.63_027 to 2.43_027. I then installed the new ROM I wanted and, as expected, nothing vital changed. I did the *228 PRL update again and it went to version 15096 (after a softboot of course).

So, the next test will be to just install the PRI on a stock phone and see if the PRL will change. Failing that, run the radio update too and then try again. Thankfully my wife also has a TP2 that hasn't even been unlocked yet. So, it will be a perfect test subject.

Questions: Will I need to unlock it prior to updating the radio? (since the PRI is just a cab file I'm not thinking it would brick a locked phone, but the radio likely will) I'm trying to figure out how the official upgrade works without unlocking the phones. Lastly, what is a PRI? I understand a PRL, but am not sure what a PRI is.

Okay, as soon as I can I'll try out the stripped down versions of the upgrade and will get back to you.

razorloves 07-20-2010 08:42 PM

Re: U.S. Cellular's new National 3G Data Coverage requires ROM upgrade on TP2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slochild (Post 1875795)
OK, a ROM I wanted was released today anyway so this is what I did:
I did the *228 PRL update and it came out as version 17098. Then I ran the full uscc install. The radio went from 2.18.00WV to 2.18.02WV and the PRI went from 1.63_027 to 2.43_027. I then installed the new ROM I wanted and, as expected, nothing vital changed. I did the *228 PRL update again and it went to version 15096 (after a softboot of course).

So, the next test will be to just install the PRI on a stock phone and see if the PRL will change. Failing that, run the radio update too and then try again. Thankfully my wife also has a TP2 that hasn't even been unlocked yet. So, it will be a perfect test subject.

Questions: Will I need to unlock it prior to updating the radio? (since the PRI is just a cab file I'm not thinking it would brick a locked phone, but the radio likely will) I'm trying to figure out how the official upgrade works without unlocking the phones. Lastly, what is a PRI? I understand a PRL, but am not sure what a PRI is.

Okay, as soon as I can I'll try out the stripped down versions of the upgrade and will get back to you.

yes, the phone must be unlocked to flash the radio.
the pri programs the nvram radio settings.

ekubahn 07-20-2010 09:04 PM

Re: U.S. Cellular's new National 3G Data Coverage requires ROM upgrade on TP2
 
ya, all you need is the PRI update. Running it here in Tulsa on my USCC phone with the mightyrom :D I have had a cpl of quirky issues with txts but i think that was service issues and not the phone itself.

razorloves 07-20-2010 09:16 PM

Re: U.S. Cellular's new National 3G Data Coverage requires ROM upgrade on TP2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ekubahn (Post 1875857)
ya, all you need is the PRI update. Running it here in Tulsa on my USCC phone with the mightyrom :D I have had a cpl of quirky issues with txts but i think that was service issues and not the phone itself.

thanks for verifying my hunch. appreciate it.

slochild 07-21-2010 10:59 AM

Re: U.S. Cellular's new National 3G Data Coverage requires ROM upgrade on TP2
 
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Well, I wasn't able to run the test after all. My wifes phone is pretty new and when I looked it had PRI version 2.33_027 and it already had the new 15096 PRL.

So, if anyone wants to give it a try:

1) Check your current PRI version and verify you need the update
2) Run the attached cab file to update your PRI (this is the cab file ripped directly out of the exe file provided by uscc, without any changes)
3) Softboot
4) Dial *228 to get the updated PRL
5) Softboot
6) Check to see if you have the new "Nation wide 3G Data" PRL
7) Let us know what you find.


CAUTION!
Read the rest of the thread before installing this. You've been warned.

sevaspeo 07-21-2010 01:39 PM

Re: U.S. Cellular's new National 3G Data Coverage requires ROM upgrade on TP2
 
I did the update and dialed *228 but I still have the Ev icon on the top bar. Is it suppose to change to 3g or does it stay Ev?

austin420 07-21-2010 01:46 PM

Re: U.S. Cellular's new National 3G Data Coverage requires ROM upgrade on TP2
 
ev is 3g.

sevaspeo 07-21-2010 01:55 PM

Re: U.S. Cellular's new National 3G Data Coverage requires ROM upgrade on TP2
 
I always thought that US Cellulars ev was the equivalent of 3g, but a little bit slower. Does this update mean I get the full 3g speed but on the ev network?

razorloves 07-21-2010 03:07 PM

Re: U.S. Cellular's new National 3G Data Coverage requires ROM upgrade on TP2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slochild (Post 1876387)
Well, I wasn't able to run the test after all. My wifes phone is pretty new and when I looked it had PRI version 2.33_027 and it already had the new 15096 PRL.

So, if anyone wants to give it a try:

1) Check your current PRI version and verify you need the update
2) Run the attached cab file to update your PRI (this is the cab file ripped directly out of the exe file provided by uscc, without any changes)
3) Softboot
4) Dial *228 to get the updated PRL
5) Softboot
6) Check to see if you have the new "Nation wide 3G Data" PRL
7) Let us know what you find.

that's not how you update the pri. you have to do it like i said on previous page. just installing the cab doesn't change anything.

dapbmonkey4u 07-21-2010 07:47 PM

Re: U.S. Cellular's new National 3G Data Coverage requires ROM upgrade on TP2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by razorloves (Post 1876854)
that's not how you update the pri. you have to do it like i said on previous page. just installing the cab doesn't change anything.


So I update my stock rom to the MR release and it gave me the new radio, but my PRI stayed the same. Why would they release an update that would make me unlock my radio?

Any suggestions on how to get the new PRI to stick?

razorloves 07-21-2010 08:09 PM

Re: U.S. Cellular's new National 3G Data Coverage requires ROM upgrade on TP2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dapbmonkey4u (Post 1877234)
So I update my stock rom to the MR release and it gave me the new radio, but my PRI stayed the same. Why would they release an update that would make me unlock my radio?

Any suggestions on how to get the new PRI to stick?

make you unlock your radio? i dont understand that question.

how did you flash the rom? doing it from sd card or from bootloader mode will not allow the pri to update. If you want to just do the pri, then just follow my instructions on previous page.

dapbmonkey4u 07-21-2010 08:18 PM

Re: U.S. Cellular's new National 3G Data Coverage requires ROM upgrade on TP2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by razorloves (Post 1877272)
make you unlock your radio? i dont understand that question.

how did you flash the rom? doing it from sd card or from bootloader mode will not allow the pri to update. If you want to just do the pri, then just follow my instructions on previous page.


I thought you had said the radio needed to be unlocked.

I used the .exe and USB to do it, I am about to do it again right now.

I have the 1.63 or whatever PRI

razorloves 07-21-2010 08:23 PM

Re: U.S. Cellular's new National 3G Data Coverage requires ROM upgrade on TP2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dapbmonkey4u (Post 1877280)
I thought you had said the radio needed to be unlocked.

I used the .exe and USB to do it, I am about to do it again right now.

I have the 1.63 or whatever PRI

if i did say that, please tell me where so that i can edit it. radio only has to be unlocked for sprint and uscc tp2's to use gsm carriers in the US. Nothing to do with this update.

dapbmonkey4u 07-21-2010 09:05 PM

Re: U.S. Cellular's new National 3G Data Coverage requires ROM upgrade on TP2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by razorloves (Post 1877290)
if i did say that, please tell me where so that i can edit it. radio only has to be unlocked for sprint and uscc tp2's to use gsm carriers in the US. Nothing to do with this update.



ah, I see. I must have misread or misinterpreted. My bad.

dapbmonkey4u 07-21-2010 09:30 PM

Re: U.S. Cellular's new National 3G Data Coverage requires ROM upgrade on TP2
 
So I flashed the New USCC rom and my PRI stays at 1.63._027

Emmrt6 07-21-2010 10:58 PM

Re: U.S. Cellular's new National 3G Data Coverage requires ROM upgrade on TP2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dapbmonkey4u (Post 1877367)
So I flashed the New USCC rom and my PRI stays at 1.63._027


Same thing for me. Radio version changed but PRI version still says 1.63_027.

razorloves 07-21-2010 11:34 PM

Re: U.S. Cellular's new National 3G Data Coverage requires ROM upgrade on TP2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dapbmonkey4u (Post 1877367)
So I flashed the New USCC rom and my PRI stays at 1.63._027

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emmrt6 (Post 1877450)
Same thing for me. Radio version changed but PRI version still says 1.63_027.

you'll just have to install the pri manually like i described on first page.

dapbmonkey4u 07-21-2010 11:46 PM

Re: U.S. Cellular's new National 3G Data Coverage requires ROM upgrade on TP2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by razorloves (Post 1877481)
you'll just have to install the pri manually like i described on first page.


Will do, thanks!

razorloves 07-21-2010 11:47 PM

Re: U.S. Cellular's new National 3G Data Coverage requires ROM upgrade on TP2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dapbmonkey4u (Post 1877491)
Will do, thanks!

you're welcome man. anytime.

dapbmonkey4u 07-22-2010 12:36 AM

Re: U.S. Cellular's new National 3G Data Coverage requires ROM upgrade on TP2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by razorloves (Post 1877492)
you're welcome man. anytime.


Sweet! worked just as you said it would.

lllboredlll 07-22-2010 07:18 PM

Re: U.S. Cellular's new National 3G Data Coverage requires ROM upgrade on TP2
 
Ok I'm gonna add 2 cents only because of how much I know about PRI's from recoding the VZW PRI for the Touch Pro to unlock the gps.

The best way to get the pri and radio is to just simply flash the rom. NOT the extacted file. You need to run it from the packaged executable or you will not get the PRI, just the radio and rom.

I recently updated my PRI on the VZW TP2 via the method razor defined. Now that is the normal practice so I'm not saying I disagree one bit with him but ppst.exe doesnt seem to act right in WM6.5. I ended up with a device that would not authenticate even after relocking and installing the entire update. I was forced to deal with VZW's dreaded customer service.

I pray the normal method works for you guys. Maybe my issues are because Verizon always adds extra junk to screw up what are normally perfectly good devices.

As I said, just my 2 cents. Want everyone aware of what can potentially happen if the PRI doesnt load properly via ppst.exe

dapbmonkey4u 07-22-2010 09:16 PM

Re: U.S. Cellular's new National 3G Data Coverage requires ROM upgrade on TP2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lllboredlll (Post 1878688)
Ok I'm gonna add 2 cents only because of how much I know about PRI's from recoding the VZW PRI for the Touch Pro to unlock the gps.

The best way to get the pri and radio is to just simply flash the rom. NOT the extacted file. You need to run it from the packaged executable or you will not get the PRI, just the radio and rom.

I recently updated my PRI on the VZW TP2 via the method razor defined. Now that is the normal practice so I'm not saying I disagree one bit with him but ppst.exe doesnt seem to act right in WM6.5. I ended up with a device that would not authenticate even after relocking and installing the entire update. I was forced to deal with VZW's dreaded customer service.

I pray the normal method works for you guys. Maybe my issues are because Verizon always adds extra junk to screw up what are normally perfectly good devices.

As I said, just my 2 cents. Want everyone aware of what can potentially happen if the PRI doesnt load properly via ppst.exe


I agree hopefully for everyone else using the executable that they download works.

Unfortunately, for me I did use the executable but only the new radio flashed. I had to take the cab out and install as Razor layed out.

Oditius 07-23-2010 07:15 AM

Re: U.S. Cellular's new National 3G Data Coverage requires ROM upgrade on TP2
 
I flashed it back to stock using the exe file, and did the #228 so this is my results.

PRL:15095
PRI: 2.43_027

I saw others talk of a 15096, not sure why mine says 15095, but doesn't matter to me. :headbang:

lioncat55 07-25-2010 07:17 PM

Re: U.S. Cellular's new National 3G Data Coverage requires ROM upgrade on TP2
 
erm where is the ppst file that i need to run?


nvm got it to work

cc8c4 07-25-2010 10:37 PM

Re: U.S. Cellular's new National 3G Data Coverage requires ROM upgrade on TP2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oditius (Post 1879367)
I flashed it back to stock using the exe file, and did the #228 so this is my results.

PRL:15095
PRI: 2.43_027

I saw others talk of a 15096, not sure why mine says 15095, but doesn't matter to me. :headbang:


15095= Chicago area
15096 = All the other markets


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