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Bostonbull 06-26-2010 07:57 PM

LAG! Unresponsive
 
I am getting to my wits end with the 6.5 and the lag issues I have been dealing with. There are times that the phone will freeze for 10-15 seconds. An example is trying to close out of the text/email screen, or when finishing a call from an unknown caller; I get the screen option to add the name to contacts. I click add new contact or existing contact and LAG! 15 seconds every time easily.

I have clear temp and cleanram installed and run them daily, sometimes more often. All of my apps, etc are saved to my card. I have deleted Sprint bloatware like NASCAR, TV, NFL, etc.

What am I missing? What can I do?

Besides flashing to custom or getting another phone what are the options? Lag makes me hate my WinMO phone!

lipidfats 06-26-2010 08:14 PM

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i feel your pain. lag is just part of winmo combined with older hardware... it was the final breaking point for me to look into getting a secondary device that was faster. i just can't afford such frustrating load times for basic things like searching the net and texting

muyoso 06-26-2010 08:14 PM

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It helps if you keep very few text messages and emails on your phone. HTC Sense does some wacky crap when you have a bunch of either.

haus 06-26-2010 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bostonbull (Post 1839413)
All of my apps, etc are saved to my card.

SD cards are slug-slow. Even class 1000000 or whatever kids these days are using. Install everything to your device. Use the card for storing music, videos, pics, and cabs for reinstallation, etc. (anything you want to keep after hard resets), backup files and such. Keep email on the device, not on the card. Try that for awhile and see if it gets better.

Bostonbull 06-26-2010 10:22 PM

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 8.12; MSIEMobile6.0) Sprint T7380)

i ent through deleted old texts, and emails, checked for pics etc I could delete. then ran clear temp, followed by clean ram (level3) and i am @ 59.6 free memory. still lots of lag. when i clicked in the box here to reply the phone froze for 5 seconds........getting old fast

pimpsuprazx 06-26-2010 10:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bostonbull (Post 1839564)
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 8.12; MSIEMobile6.0) Sprint T7380)

i ent through deleted old texts, and emails, checked for pics etc I could delete. then ran clear temp, followed by clean ram (level3) and i am @ 59.6 free memory. still lots of lag. when i clicked in the box here to reply the phone froze for 5 seconds........getting old fast

i gave up and went back to blackberry, i did everything you did, and even went as far as turning off sense, still froze up alot

crazed_z06 06-26-2010 10:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bostonbull (Post 1839413)
I am getting to my wits end with the 6.5 and the lag issues I have been dealing with. There are times that the phone will freeze for 10-15 seconds. An example is trying to close out of the text/email screen, or when finishing a call from an unknown caller; I get the screen option to add the name to contacts. I click add new contact or existing contact and LAG! 15 seconds every time easily.

I have clear temp and cleanram installed and run them daily, sometimes more often. All of my apps, etc are saved to my card. I have deleted Sprint bloatware like NASCAR, TV, NFL, etc.

What am I missing? What can I do?

Besides flashing to custom or getting another phone what are the options? Lag makes me hate my WinMO phone!

It's just how Windows Mobile is. Was like this when I had a MPX-200 like 7 years ago.. Was like this on my MPX-220, 3125, 8525, ATT Tilt, etc, etc.

I dont understand why Windows Mobile doesnt scream considering the OS is basically the same thing from 6 years ago. You'd think on new hardware like the TP2, it'd fly..

muyoso 06-26-2010 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by crazed_z06 (Post 1839577)
It's just how Windows Mobile is. Was like this when I had a MPX-200 like 7 years ago.. Was like this on my MPX-220, 3125, 8525, ATT Tilt, etc, etc.

I dont understand why Windows Mobile doesnt scream considering the OS is basically the same thing from 6 years ago. You'd think on new hardware like the TP2, it'd fly..

Yea, I seriously don't get that either. Of course the hardware hasn't increased THAT much either. My mogul was 400Mhz and my Touch Pro was 528Mhz and my Touch Pro 2 is 528Mhz. All three phones ran the same OS. All three phones didn't have enough memory.

I guess the fact that Microsoft pretty much gave up and resigned itself to do small patches instead of major upgrades on windows mobile years ago is what leads to the inevitable lag and frustration.

flyers2114 06-26-2010 11:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bostonbull (Post 1839413)
I am getting to my wits end with the 6.5 and the lag issues I have been dealing with. There are times that the phone will freeze for 10-15 seconds. An example is trying to close out of the text/email screen, or when finishing a call from an unknown caller; I get the screen option to add the name to contacts. I click add new contact or existing contact and LAG! 15 seconds every time easily.

I have clear temp and cleanram installed and run them daily, sometimes more often. All of my apps, etc are saved to my card. I have deleted Sprint bloatware like NASCAR, TV, NFL, etc.

What am I missing? What can I do?

Besides flashing to custom or getting another phone what are the options? Lag makes me hate my WinMO phone!

Hard reset and then install apps to device as was mentioned....delete texts every couple days....but personally I would flash custom....most of the bs is out.......I dont experience any kind of lag like you are experiencing...

muyoso 06-26-2010 11:34 PM

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Yea, custom roms help a lot. Completely worth the small amount of time it takes to accomplish. Doesn't solve every problem, but makes the phone tolerable most of the time.

JDM_SOHC 06-27-2010 12:33 AM

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x3, flashing is the way to go...

PropagandaX 06-27-2010 12:46 AM

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Guys its manilla, not windows mobile. The phone is not that slow. Try the latest version of spb mobile shell on a rom without manilla.

xicloe 06-27-2010 01:07 AM

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Try lighter ROM, I suggest SUPER ROM, trust me, it's my own experience.

You never regret it. If there's no lighter ROM than the stock ROM I already in Android zone, :p, but now my friend jealous with my RhodiumW speed. btw my friend use Milestone. Yeah of course that woud be different if he use EVO or Nexus, it's have faster processor.

rara12 06-27-2010 01:38 AM

Wirelessly posted (Opera/9.80 (J2ME/MIDP; Opera Mini/5.0.3521/18.794; U; en) Presto/2.4.15)

Would it be the same if we have a rom with manila but disable it and use spb mobile shell Instead of flashing a rom without manila?

fastmike 06-27-2010 02:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PropagandaX (Post 1839702)
Guys its manilla, not windows mobile. The phone is not that slow. Try the latest version of spb mobile shell on a rom without manilla.

+1

Manila is dog slow. Don't believe me? Try iphonetoday, SPB Mobile Shell, or biganand's rom with MaxSense all *much* faster.

I feel your pain on the contact manager. Personal favorite is Iconsoft PhoneEx v2.2 though the SPB Mobile Shell contact manager isn't too bad and much faster.

Oh, flashing a custom rom goes a long way too. More free space and no bloatware. You can always install stuff like Sprint TV in a cab if you wish.

For something simple, try MightyRom 6.5/m2.1 (2-10-2010), my "good ol' standby" ROM.

nrfitchett4 06-27-2010 03:02 AM

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yep, my custom TP2 with mobile shell was a joy to use.
Now my HD2 is smoking. I would have loved to see what a tp2 with 1ghz and double the ram could do. 312mb of free RAM on start up. (not to mention 688 of program memory)

jmorton10 06-27-2010 08:51 AM

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I am running NRG's 23569 ROM, using sense 2.5 (I turn off the weather animation with CHT) & my system runs really fast & smooth. It runs well enough that I have no desire whatever to switch to Android at this time although I probably will eventually.

I install EVERYTHING to the phone memory except for GPS maps that are huge.

I also keep my SMS inbox cleaned out regularly (it always cracks me up when someone says "my phone has been lagging really bad ever since I restored 4200 text messages")

~John

aiiee 06-27-2010 11:30 AM

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If you could get someone to cook up a 6.5 fixed stock rom like Mr. X did for Verizon, you'd be done with SODs, freezing, lag, whathaveyou. When I first flashed 6.5, it was *horrible*, I was taking the battery out every time I wanted to use the phone! Now, no SODs whatsover. So there's that :)

BenC 06-27-2010 12:36 PM

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And there are some of us with stock ROMs, heavy email usage, et cetera with no problems. Lags though do occur, but none like you describe. What email application are you using? I used Flexmail successfully on my TP, but it caused the TP2 to slow way down and kill the battery.

drtnsnw1 06-27-2010 12:50 PM

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I have not noticed the lag issue I had after I switched to the MR2 Rom. It still has a ton of bugs but that at least is gone

Chris

Bostonbull 06-27-2010 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BenC (Post 1840044)
And there are some of us with stock ROMs, heavy email usage, et cetera with no problems. Lags though do occur, but none like you describe. What email application are you using? I used Flexmail successfully on my TP, but it caused the TP2 to slow way down and kill the battery.

I am using yahoo, gmail, and my co,'s address....all set up through the WinMo setup wizard. I am on a 10 minute send/receive schedule, and 7 days worth of emails only from my inbox. Never more than 50-100 emails on my phone. I delete most texts, especially picture texts.


What is the most powerful/capable touchscreen business focused phone out there?

nrfitchett4 06-27-2010 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bostonbull (Post 1840495)
I am using yahoo, gmail, and my co,'s address....all set up through the WinMo setup wizard. I am on a 10 minute send/receive schedule, and 7 days worth of emails only from my inbox. Never more than 50-100 emails on my phone. I delete most texts, especially picture texts.


What is the most powerful/capable touchscreen business focused phone out there?

probably the htc hd2 for winmo. There is a big difference. When I first set up my email for yahoo, I had about 150 emails to download, full message with attachments and it took about 2minutes.
The problem I think you are having is that you have it set to check your emails every 10 minutes. If you have 3 emails to check, and each one takes 1-2minutes to update, your phone is always processing, so when you go to do something else, it has to change gears.

But your best bet for business might be a no nonsense blackberry.

Bostonbull 06-27-2010 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by nrfitchett4 (Post 1840508)
probably the htc hd2 for winmo. There is a big difference. When I first set up my email for yahoo, I had about 150 emails to download, full message with attachments and it took about 2minutes.
The problem I think you are having is that you have it set to check your emails every 10 minutes. If you have 3 emails to check, and each one takes 1-2minutes to update, your phone is always processing, so when you go to do something else, it has to change gears.

But your best bet for business might be a no nonsense blackberry.

Until RIM comes out with a good touch screen phone, thats fast, I will stick with WinMo, or Android.

Should add that i need the phone to be on Sprint

fastmike 06-29-2010 01:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bostonbull (Post 1839413)
Besides flashing to custom or getting another phone what are the options? Lag makes me hate my WinMO phone!

Don't give up, the TP2 is a great phone!

Bostonbull, you mentioned calling and adding contacts. Try installing this program and let me know what you think. *Much* faster than Manila dialer/contact manager.

IconSoft PhoneEx http://www.iconsoft.com/?language=en...e094db10fc83b1

Also, if you must have Sense, the manila 2.5 that comes on the Sprint 6.5 Rom is much slower than 2.1.

Let me know!

gambit07 06-29-2010 01:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PropagandaX (Post 1839702)
Guys its manilla, not windows mobile. The phone is not that slow. Try the latest version of spb mobile shell on a rom without manilla.

Actually I don't think this is the case. Winmo 6.5 getting bogged down is the issue. I was using Mighty for a long time and it always went the same way. First week or so after flash the phone was great, then slowly it would become increasingly slower. I ended up getting extremely annoyed so I switched over to this rom http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=105295, which uses winmo6.1 with Sense instead of 6.5. The difference is incredible. I suppose you give up a few newer features here and there but for reliability and speed theres nothing close. I've been using the 6.1 build for a couple months now and it's still just as fast as when I flashed it. Give it a shot, I think it will fix a lot of your problems.

eric12341 06-29-2010 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by gambit07 (Post 1843207)
Actually I don't think this is the case. Winmo 6.5 getting bogged down is the issue. I was using Mighty for a long time and it always went the same way. First week or so after flash the phone was great, then slowly it would become increasingly slower. I ended up getting extremely annoyed so I switched over to this rom http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=105295, which uses winmo6.1 with Sense instead of 6.5. The difference is incredible. I suppose you give up a few newer features here and there but for reliability and speed theres nothing close. I've been using the 6.1 build for a couple months now and it's still just as fast as when I flashed it. Give it a shot, I think it will fix a lot of your problems.

that looks like a good ROM but the amount of free RAM is the same as the current sprint stock 6.5 and i also believe that 6.1 is now a victim of that 2016 bug, i dont think a patch was ever released for the TP2, the 6.5 was released instead.

frittob 06-29-2010 04:40 PM

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Concur on the kill manilla and just run SPB Mobile Shell ... I've been running Formula's ROM for awhile, much more responsive

I also like emptying the email wastebaskets periodically ... seems to help ... any way to automate this?


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