Originally Posted by my pants are tight (Post 1794770)

I live 3 miles from Microsoft. I have a friend who worked on the Windows Mobile team for 2 years. He recently moved to a different team. Windows Mobile is far from dead. They have been working on Windows Mobile 8 for at least 9 months, not major work on 8 but WM7 has been done for quite awhile. .

Originally Posted by Kliptik (Post 1795125)

I agree. That's probably why Microsoft created a whole separate IDE for just the WP7 platform. And best of all, they made it free. I have no clue what they were thinking when they deiced to make Visual Studio Professional a requirement to develop WM apps, and then made it cost $800... So now they've released the IDE for WP7 ands it doesn't cost anything to use. It still costs to register with the Windows Marketplace in order to submit apps, but at lerast you dont have to drop $800 to get the process started...

Originally Posted by Zing Zing (Post 1795931)

Would u mind sharing whatever it is that you're smoking? :^o

Originally Posted by Amamba (Post 1796529)

I like WM. It has been abandoned by MS for a while but unlike PalmOS it was abandoned in a much more mature state. I'd say the problem is hardware, not soft. I was perfectly pleased with WM6.1 on Axim.

Originally Posted by wildpig (Post 1795896)

sure that's true? developers and business customers would not be happy.. i think there has to be some back compatibility

Originally Posted by twasnow (Post 1796014)

lol, what, do you work at Walmart or McD's, you really think $800 would stop serious developers. That's peanuts for such a comprehensive piece of software. oh no, so there wouldn't be all the useless apps like on Iphone and android, is that really a bad thing? in it's hayday windows mobile had a crazy amount of applications, almost all of them served a very useful purpose.

The fact that now there is a market for smart phones for idiots who don't have a clue what to do with there new tech so they really want to "Rate a Fart" or poke a cartoon image in the eye, is really sad.


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What makes or breaks a phone is Marketing not development past a point of acceptable usability, if you don't understand this than you really are fooling yourself, professional 3rd party developers go where the money is PERIOD.

You can't tell me the Iphone OS or Android OS were anything near perfect when they first came out. hell they still aren't. but a billion dollars in ad's and none of that matters.

Originally Posted by dcperdue (Post 1797030)

Visual Studio has never been a REQUIREMENT to develop in windows mobile. Its called wordpad. And all of the SDK's are free. Please know what your talking about before you post.

Originally Posted by dcperdue (Post 1795909)

All of your posts are opinion based. Other than the guy who claims to know a guy working at MS which I doubt is true but. All opions aside lets look at the facts shall we?

Developers for WM are pretty much done. They have all moved over to droid. SPB has announced no further support for WM. You cant sell a WM phone now days to save your life no one wants them. I used to sell 10 to 20 phones a week on CL and now im lucky if I can sell 1 at a decent price. Apple is scared to death of android and they should be. If you take all the phones HTC sells vs iphones sold HTC wins by a long shot hence the reason apple is sueing HTC, bullshit lawsuit yes indeed. WM7 is a lost cause and most likely wont even be seen in a production build (my opion) Even at my best buy I was at the sprint section and seen 3 people getting rid of their WM phones for droid and that was in 10 mins. Droid is where its going to end if you dont got stock in google buy some because google tv is almost here as well and its based off droid. Microsoft really messed up with WM and not ever updating the .net 1 framework on all releases up to WM 6.5. No one writes in .net 1 anymore and that was there demise. Not to mention what a resource hog WM is. I develope for a company using Microsofts Sharepoint 10 and this is a big company cant mention the name for legal reasons but up until 3 months ago they had a team of contractors 100+ developing their health software for WM. They have announced to all contractors they are abandoning WM and going to droid. They are supporting current apps till the end of 2010 and customers must be on droid after that. Is Windows Mobile dead? Sure seems like many people are jumping off the sinking ship.

I woulod also like to add I own a TP2 and a moto droid. And the same apps I run on WM I run on my droid and exchange for droid is better and remote desktop better. Garmin gps better, google maps ect ect. All the apps run smoother and respond well. All apps for droid are java based which is funny because so many people thought java was dead.

Originally Posted by flyers2114 (Post 1799664)

Your statement is also opinion based.....we shall see very soon what the future holds....lets remember this is big business....big business is about market share....don't think for one minute MS will sit back and let the others just pass them easily...