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stab244 05-28-2010 11:17 PM

Phone as router while using computer's internet?
 
Okay so here's my situation. I know that the TP2 can be used as a Wi-Fi hotspot with the data connection from the mobile network provider. In my case, I have T-Mobile USA and on pre-paid (don't knock me for that...) and I can access T-Zones with that for free. However, I was wondering if I can do this crazy thing...

I know that if I connect to my PC and establish an ActiveSync connection between the two, the TP2 and the PC, I can use the PC's internet connection on my phone. I'm wondering if I can take it one step farther than that and make it so that while my phone is connected to my computer's internet, it is able to broadcast that internet connection through the Wi-Fi Router. I've tried looking through the settings for this and I can't seem to find it. Everything that is there involves me using the mobile network's internet as the data source for the Wi-Fi Router. Reason for me wanting to do this is because... Well... My DS can't connect to WPA2 connections and that is what my house is currently using. I want to use my phone as a secondary router that uses WEP security for the moments when I need to go on Wi-Fi with my DS. Any way to do this? Thanks to anyone who can help me!

gTen 05-28-2010 11:43 PM

Re: Phone as router while using computer's internet?
 
Even if you use your cellphone to do that your connection will be ADHOC and not Inferstructure which I think the DS and many other game stations need.

Maybe once we get Froyo on the android port.


or do you mean using he cellphone internet to power a hardware router?

stab244 05-28-2010 11:44 PM

Re: Phone as router while using computer's internet?
 
Oh darn... Anyway to make the DS believe it is an infrastructure conection instead?

gTen 05-28-2010 11:47 PM

Re: Phone as router while using computer's internet?
 
It won't even see the connection...same with the PS3, PSP and etc...

But once we get a Froyo port on android I hear it has inferstructure...


You can always get a 2nd router and broadcast WPE..cheap routers only cost 10-20$

stab244 05-28-2010 11:49 PM

Re: Phone as router while using computer's internet?
 
Hmm... Alright then... I'm pretty sure the developers are working on it right now. If they're not on vacation that is...

stab244 05-29-2010 02:45 PM

Re: Phone as router while using computer's internet?
 
Okay the DS can use Ad-Hoc connections. Just tried it and the DS could connect to the TP2. All I need to know now is how to get the TP2 to broadcast the internet that is coming in through the PC.

Kliptik 05-29-2010 03:10 PM

Re: Phone as router while using computer's internet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stab244 (Post 1780876)
Okay the DS can use Ad-Hoc connections. Just tried it and the DS could connect to the TP2. All I need to know now is how to get the TP2 to broadcast the internet that is coming in through the PC.

How did you get it to connect to the TP2? I've tried before and the DS doesn't see the ad-hoc from the TP2 wifi router. I even tried the advanced setup on the DS and used the same network name and key and no dice. Would love to know how to make this work!

TIA!

cruise350 05-29-2010 11:26 PM

Re: Phone as router while using computer's internet?
 
Why can't you connect to wpa2 connection with your ds??? I have a ds and a dsi and both connect to my home network running wpa2. You have to use advanced connections to set it up.

wildpig 05-29-2010 11:51 PM

Re: Phone as router while using computer's internet?
 
Don't know if this help or not but you might want to take a look @ prog named wmwifirouter. It has a mode called "USB to wifi" which may serve yr need...

tacotoy 05-30-2010 03:32 AM

Re: Phone as router while using computer's internet?
 
look over on xda.... there was one of their news flash articles about an app that could point connections every which way, i think your option would be bluetooth to wifi, not sure on the usb side of things....

stab244 05-30-2010 11:01 AM

Re: Phone as router while using computer's internet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kliptik (Post 1780902)
How did you get it to connect to the TP2? I've tried before and the DS doesn't see the ad-hoc from the TP2 wifi router. I even tried the advanced setup on the DS and used the same network name and key and no dice. Would love to know how to make this work!

TIA!

I don't know. I'm using NRGZ newest ROM and using the Wi-Fi Router that's found inside the settings and my DS saw it. Too bad I don't have a data plan or I could've seen if it truly worked or not...
Quote:

Originally Posted by cruise350 (Post 1781500)
Why can't you connect to wpa2 connection with your ds??? I have a ds and a dsi and both connect to my home network running wpa2. You have to use advanced connections to set it up.

Yeah, the DSi can connect to WPA2 connections, but only if you're using the DSi Web Browser. Games won't connect and that's what I need it for. Not to mention that I'm using a DSLite which only supports WEP encryption.
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Originally Posted by wildpig (Post 1781531)
Don't know if this help or not but you might want to take a look @ prog named wmwifirouter. It has a mode called "USB to wifi" which may serve yr need...

Hmm... Will look for as soon as I find the time to. Thank you!

wildpig 05-30-2010 01:04 PM

Re: Phone as router while using computer's internet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stab244 (Post 1781928)
I don't know. I'm using NRGZ newest ROM and using the Wi-Fi Router that's found inside the settings and my DS saw it. Too bad I don't have a data plan or I could've seen if it truly worked or not...

Yeah, the DSi can connect to WPA2 connections, but only if you're using the DSi Web Browser. Games won't connect and that's what I need it for. Not to mention that I'm using a DSLite which only supports WEP encryption.

Hmm... Will look for as soon as I find the time to. Thank you!

http://support.wmwifirouter.com/docu...41/USB_to_Wifi

chk that out I think that is what you are looking for

stab244 05-30-2010 09:40 PM

Re: Phone as router while using computer's internet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wildpig (Post 1782115)
http://support.wmwifirouter.com/docu...41/USB_to_Wifi

chk that out I think that is what you are looking for

Oh thank you. If only I was willing to pay for it... Hmm... Guess I will then. Thank you!

wildpig 05-30-2010 10:46 PM

Re: Phone as router while using computer's internet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stab244 (Post 1782750)
Oh thank you. If only I was willing to pay for it... Hmm... Guess I will then. Thank you!

let us know how it works out, no point someone else has to pay again if it doesnt work. thnx

elviseo 05-31-2010 02:49 AM

Re: Phone as router while using computer's internet?
 
Hello everyone; I need help for my HTC TP2.The WMwifi router 2.0 broadcasts only in adhoc mode.Is there any way I can make it broadcast in infrastucture mode?.If not, is there any other windows mobile wifi router app that I can get to broadcast in infrastructure mode?.Thanks.

wildpig 05-31-2010 03:54 AM

Re: Phone as router while using computer's internet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by elviseo (Post 1783143)
Hello everyone; I need help for my HTC TP2.The WMwifi router 2.0 broadcasts only in adhoc mode.Is there any way I can make it broadcast in infrastucture mode?.If not, is there any other windows mobile wifi router app that I can get to broadcast in infrastructure mode?.Thanks.


Not as far as we know....

stab244 05-31-2010 10:20 AM

Re: Phone as router while using computer's internet?
 
Ok this is really weird... It works nice. Easy to set up, much easier than the XDA one that I tried out before but for some reason the DS doesn't detect this signal... The Wi-Fi signal from HTC's Wi-Fi Router app works but the one from this app doesn't. It still seems like that you need to provide your own IP though...

EDIT: WTF... (Pardon my acronym...) It works now on my DS. I do I have manually insert every god dang piece of info but it works.

wildpig 05-31-2010 01:11 PM

Re: Phone as router while using computer's internet?
 
glad it works for you even if not straight forward to set up. Thanx for being the testing pig ;)

stab244 05-31-2010 02:37 PM

Re: Phone as router while using computer's internet?
 
Pleasure to be... And hmm... Settings still not working. I've tried quite a few different settings but still isn't working. I'm guessing that it's the IP address but I'm not sure... Not working on both DS and labtop...

wildpig 05-31-2010 02:50 PM

Re: Phone as router while using computer's internet?
 
got my laptop connected but no ds to test it out

stab244 05-31-2010 03:41 PM

Re: Phone as router while using computer's internet?
 
Hmm... I think I found my issue. My phone won't let me have a concurrent USB connection while I have a Wi-Fi connection on and vice versa. Anyway to solve this?

wildpig 05-31-2010 04:17 PM

Re: Phone as router while using computer's internet?
 
so that thing wmwifirouter doesn't work in the usb to wifi mode afterall or at least not on TP2?

They said on the information webpage that usb to wifi mode is the hardest to set up. I guess it is really the hardest to set up.... keep trying though. I will look around too....

stab244 05-31-2010 04:44 PM

Re: Phone as router while using computer's internet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wildpig (Post 1783794)
so that thing wmwifirouter doesn't work in the usb to wifi mode afterall or at least not on TP2?

They said on the information webpage that usb to wifi mode is the hardest to set up. I guess it is really the hardest to set up.... keep trying though. I will look around too....

They did? Well it does is kinda hard to set up. And thank you for helping me. If this doesn't work, then I guess I'll just break down and buy a Nintendo Wi-Fi USB adapter... Hopefully I won't have to.

Kliptik 05-31-2010 05:53 PM

Re: Phone as router while using computer's internet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stab244 (Post 1783312)
Ok this is really weird... It works nice. Easy to set up, much easier than the XDA one that I tried out before but for some reason the DS doesn't detect this signal... The Wi-Fi signal from HTC's Wi-Fi Router app works but the one from this app doesn't. It still seems like that you need to provide your own IP though...

EDIT: WTF... (Pardon my acronym...) It works now on my DS. I do I have manually insert every god dang piece of info but it works.

So you have to set up the IP and DNS on the DS for it to pick it up?

EDIT* I tried it with "Auto Detect" and no dice...

stab244 06-01-2010 09:17 PM

Re: Phone as router while using computer's internet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kliptik (Post 1783895)
So you have to set up the IP and DNS on the DS for it to pick it up?

EDIT* I tried it with "Auto Detect" and no dice...

Actually no... It just saw the network and I could then set up the IP and DNS stuff from within.

And dang it. My Wi-Fi isn't working now... I wonder what happened... Well anybody else who had this issue after using the WMWifiRouter app wanna help me out?

wildpig 06-02-2010 04:23 AM

Re: Phone as router while using computer's internet?
 
WMWifi reverts Yr phone back to pre hotspot stage after quitting prog, So not sure.You soft reset?

stab244 06-02-2010 01:27 PM

Re: Phone as router while using computer's internet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wildpig (Post 1786720)
WMWifi reverts Yr phone back to pre hotspot stage after quitting prog, So not sure.You soft reset?

Yeah. Several times. The program also messes up now too. It tries to connect to a Wi-Fi hotspot when I use the USB to Wi-Fi mode. Don't know why. I hope I don't have to hard reset...

wildpig 06-02-2010 02:58 PM

Re: Phone as router while using computer's internet?
 
try uninstall the program?

stab244 06-02-2010 06:36 PM

Re: Phone as router while using computer's internet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wildpig (Post 1787412)
try uninstall the program?

I seriously can't believe that I didn't think of that... Just tried that with a soft reset and it still doesn't work... I can't believe this... Hmm... I could live without Wi-Fi I guess until I reflash my phone. Doesn't matter too much to me. I just tether it to my computer anyways.

nrfitchett4 06-03-2010 12:58 AM

Re: Phone as router while using computer's internet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stab244 (Post 1780169)
Okay so here's my situation. I know that the TP2 can be used as a Wi-Fi hotspot with the data connection from the mobile network provider. In my case, I have T-Mobile USA and on pre-paid (don't knock me for that...) and I can access T-Zones with that for free. However, I was wondering if I can do this crazy thing...

I know that if I connect to my PC and establish an ActiveSync connection between the two, the TP2 and the PC, I can use the PC's internet connection on my phone. I'm wondering if I can take it one step farther than that and make it so that while my phone is connected to my computer's internet, it is able to broadcast that internet connection through the Wi-Fi Router. I've tried looking through the settings for this and I can't seem to find it. Everything that is there involves me using the mobile network's internet as the data source for the Wi-Fi Router. Reason for me wanting to do this is because... Well... My DS can't connect to WPA2 connections and that is what my house is currently using. I want to use my phone as a secondary router that uses WEP security for the moments when I need to go on Wi-Fi with my DS. Any way to do this? Thanks to anyone who can help me!

had this same problem with my kids DS's. Couldn't get the TP2 wifi to work with them, so I just downgraded my security for my home internet to make the kids happy. WEP all around.

wildpig 06-03-2010 01:00 AM

Re: Phone as router while using computer's internet?
 
sorry to hear about yr experience.Might just be better to get a real router and have that as the distribution point instead of having internet goes directly to yr computer and then trying to distribute it from yr computer w/ TP2


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