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elnene20 04-26-2010 07:51 PM

WinMo Being Phased Out
 
So thats what I heard!! I called a Verizon store because my brother would like to own the Almighty TP2 and get rid of his BBstorm. When I spoke to the store owner there he said they do not carry the phone anymore because its discontinued....Really?? But he could order it for me and have it with in a few days. He said he will not be carrying anymore WM devices due to no support and was talking about how Microsoft blames HTC and Vise Versa for there lack of support. He said if my brother wants to get a phone he is better off going Android. He also mentioned how VZ will be getting the Iphone for next year! Intersting none the less, But back on topic!

So it kinda makes sense about no more WinMo seeing as how Crapy 6.5 is for Sprint and how long. I mean How LOOOOOOOOOOOOONG it takes them to come out with a decent rom, and when we get it its no where near our expectations!! IMO....and then I get on here and the first thing I see is how Android is on track to surpass apple app store!! So if you ask me Android is on fire, and I think WinMo feels the heat!!

Plus if you look at all the devices coming out in the near future there all running Android....dont quote me on that.....

mlin 04-26-2010 07:55 PM

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With WP7 no close on the horizon there isn't much use for continued development and investment into a dying platform. I love WM by the way, but I too understand that if I want to stay current I will have to jump to WP7 or Android.

racemepls 04-26-2010 08:01 PM

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He's just an indirect dealer who didn't have any tp2 in stock so he wanted to sell what was in his inventory. Thats all

newkidd 04-26-2010 08:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by elnene20 (Post 1720673)
So thats what I heard!! I called a Verizon store because my brother would like to own the Almighty TP2 and get rid of his BBstorm. When I spoke to the store owner there he said they do not carry the phone anymore because its discontinued....Really?? But he could order it for me and have it with in a few days. He said he will not be carrying anymore WM devices due to no support and was talking about how Microsoft blames HTC and Vise Versa for there lack of support. He said if my brother wants to get a phone he is better off going Android. He also mentioned how VZ will be getting the Iphone for next year! Intersting none the less, But back on topic!

So it kinda makes sense about no more WinMo seeing as how Crapy 6.5 is for Sprint and how long. I mean How LOOOOOOOOOOOOONG it takes them to come out with a decent rom, and when we get it its no where near our expectations!! IMO....and then I get on here and the first thing I see is how Android is on track to surpass apple app store!! So if you ask me Android is on fire, and I think WinMo feels the heat!!

Plus if you look at all the devices coming out in the near future there all running Android....dont quote me on that.....


you might be right. Android is the next up and coming thing. And sprint's 6.5 software is crappy, but that is only because Microsoft wouldnt let anything other than 6.5.1 be released for the phone. If you have the right connections, you can also get a baller rom for your phone that will sort all your needs.

But as a Tech rep at sprint, i can honestly count on my left hand how many Touch Pro 2's have come back for repairs, and so far my tally sheet from the beginning of the year i am at 1,693 android devices that are coming back in need of hard resets because someone downloaded some software and now their phone force closes all the time.

WIndows mobile may be being phased out, but there is always going to be roms cooked up that will tickle your fancy. heck the android is even being ported to windows mobile so you can have the best of both worlds!

WM 6.5 may be being phased, but the heartbeat of the windows mobile community is like a heard of elk.

OR78 04-26-2010 08:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by racemepls (Post 1720707)
He's just an indirect dealer who didn't have any tp2 in stock so he wanted to sell what was in his inventory. Thats all


I would have to agree here. The guy was trying to make a sale on what he had in his store. It's kinda bassackwards on the sale pitch, he should have tried to help better. If he would have ordered the phone his store would have gotten credit but I wouldn't let that entice your position on WM.

elnene20 04-26-2010 08:17 PM

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Well for me. I am a WM fan and would hate to go android and will continue to be untill all the chefs here decide not to cook any more roms...But its a dying platform and with very little support.. Yes I know its hard to believe but I think sooner than later we will all be running androids....:angry7:

DaveTN 04-26-2010 08:43 PM

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Verizon is so full of crap they make my septic tank smell like a rose garden.
That said, WinMo is being phased out...and replaced with WindowsPhone.
I agree too that the guy may just have been wanting to move a phone to an "uninformed" buyer.

David

Tectronus 04-26-2010 09:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by newkidd (Post 1720710)

WM 6.5 may be being phased, but the heartbeat of the windows mobile community is like a heard of elk.

Awesome Quote! you should sig it!

sarcigon 04-26-2010 09:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by racemepls (Post 1720707)
He's just an indirect dealer who didn't have any tp2 in stock so he wanted to sell what was in his inventory. Thats all

I agree.

shaggylive 04-26-2010 09:57 PM

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lol, reminds me of how verizon killed skype on ppc's, but now is suddenly advertising the capability on droid.

nrfitchett4 04-27-2010 04:10 AM

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the same verizon that just said they won't carry the nexus one after all because they have the droid?
Did he have a release date on the iphone yet, I wouldn't count on that one till it hits.

who needs the support of microsoft when we have the support of ppcgeeks and xda-dev's???

pimpsuprazx 04-27-2010 08:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by elnene20 (Post 1720673)
So thats what I heard!! I called a Verizon store because my brother would like to own the Almighty TP2 and get rid of his BBstorm. When I spoke to the store owner there he said they do not carry the phone anymore because its discontinued....Really?? But he could order it for me and have it with in a few days. He said he will not be carrying anymore WM devices due to no support and was talking about how Microsoft blames HTC and Vise Versa for there lack of support. He said if my brother wants to get a phone he is better off going Android. He also mentioned how VZ will be getting the Iphone for next year! Intersting none the less, But back on topic!

So it kinda makes sense about no more WinMo seeing as how Crapy 6.5 is for Sprint and how long. I mean How LOOOOOOOOOOOOONG it takes them to come out with a decent rom, and when we get it its no where near our expectations!! IMO....and then I get on here and the first thing I see is how Android is on track to surpass apple app store!! So if you ask me Android is on fire, and I think WinMo feels the heat!!

Plus if you look at all the devices coming out in the near future there all running Android....dont quote me on that.....

Do people still believe everything they are told?

TGabriele 04-27-2010 08:37 AM

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I've never seen the TP2 available in the local store. I've always been told that its only available through the online store. Anyone else have a similar experience?

Sim-X 04-27-2010 08:39 AM

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WinMo is a horrible OS compare to what else is out there. It's slow, laggy, freezes all the time. I love my TP2 for texting, the keyboard simply rocks but as far as the OS is concerned it's terrible. I will prob be jumping on board the HTC evo which I really don't want to give up a real keyboard or my sero plan but it looks awesome.

pimpsuprazx 04-27-2010 08:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sim-X (Post 1721698)
WinMo is a horrible OS compare to what else is out there. It's slow, laggy, freezes all the time. I love my TP2 for texting, the keyboard simply rocks but as far as the OS is concerned it's terrible. I will prob be jumping on board the HTC evo which I really don't want to give up a real keyboard or my sero plan but it looks awesome.

I agree to a certain extent, but that evo has a 4.3 inch screen, you should be able to text fine lol

pimpsuprazx 04-27-2010 08:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TGabriele (Post 1721696)
I've never seen the TP2 available in the local store. I've always been told that its only available through the online store. Anyone else have a similar experience?

yea, at indirect dealers of sprint stores

ajac 04-27-2010 09:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by elnene20 (Post 1720673)
So thats what I heard!! I called a Verizon store because my brother would like to own the Almighty TP2 and get rid of his BBstorm. When I spoke to the store owner there he said they do not carry the phone anymore because its discontinued....Really?? But he could order it for me and have it with in a few days. He said he will not be carrying anymore WM devices due to no support and was talking about how Microsoft blames HTC and Vise Versa for there lack of support. He said if my brother wants to get a phone he is better off going Android. He also mentioned how VZ will be getting the Iphone for next year! Intersting none the less, But back on topic!

So it kinda makes sense about no more WinMo seeing as how Crapy 6.5 is for Sprint and how long. I mean How LOOOOOOOOOOOOONG it takes them to come out with a decent rom, and when we get it its no where near our expectations!! IMO....and then I get on here and the first thing I see is how Android is on track to surpass apple app store!! So if you ask me Android is on fire, and I think WinMo feels the heat!!

Plus if you look at all the devices coming out in the near future there all running Android....dont quote me on that.....

he feeding you one of the cornies lines. Shoudl have fired back "if thats true how come on verzions website the touch pro 2 is still listed?" and how come sprint and tmobile and AT&t are also still selling the devices? After he gives you yet another lame answer u proceed to leave and tell him to get a new job.

Sim-X 04-27-2010 09:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pimpsuprazx (Post 1721707)
I agree to a certain extent, but that evo has a 4.3 inch screen, you should be able to text fine lol

Yea I think I'm just gonna suck it up but I have always been a huge fan of the TP2 keyboard. I have an ipod and hate the onscreen keyboard vs the TP2. I guess with anything I will get used to it but seems to be real keyboards seem to be getting phased out at least on higher end phones. I love having aps on my ipod which is something my phone just doesn't do very well.

jmorton10 04-27-2010 09:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TGabriele (Post 1721696)
I've never seen the TP2 available in the local store. I've always been told that its only available through the online store. Anyone else have a similar experience?


I stop into two local VZ locations regularly as I know a few of the employees.

Neither location has EVER had a TP2 in stock & when I show them mine they aren't even sure what it is.........

~John

jmorton10 04-27-2010 09:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pimpsuprazx (Post 1721707)
I agree to a certain extent, but that evo has a 4.3 inch screen, you should be able to text fine lol


I totally agree, but a co-worker of mine sold his TP2 & bought an HD2 & he absolutely hates the OS KB.

I heard him say the other day "I never should has bought this POS, I miss my TP2 KB in the worst way"

~John

Q_Q 04-27-2010 09:30 AM

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Has MS really come out & say they will phase out WM?
From the WP7 announcement pressers, it appears they were going to support both OS for different demographics.

ajac 04-27-2010 09:34 AM

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in all honesty win mo 6.5 will be phased out by december for sure.. thats a given since windows phone will be available.. to bad no sense on top of it or micro sd cards.. or cut and paste.. (on launch anyway)

Sim-X 04-27-2010 09:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jmorton10 (Post 1721773)
I totally agree, but a co-worker of mine sold his TP2 & bought an HD2 & he absolutely hates the OS KB.

I heard him say the other day "I never should has bought this POS, I miss my TP2 KB in the worst way"

~John

Yea and that is what I am worried about. I would rather have a little extra bulk and have a good keyboard than some on screen garbage. I don't see them making an evo with a hardware keyboard. Even typing on my ipod it takes way longer and I make more mistakes. I'm sure I would get use to it over time if that is all I had but still.

ajac 04-27-2010 09:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sim-X (Post 1721790)
Yea and that is what I am worried about. I would rather have a little extra bulk and have a good keyboard than some on screen garbage. I don't see them making an evo with a hardware keyboard. Even typing on my ipod it takes way longer and I make more mistakes. I'm sure I would get use to it over time if that is all I had but still.

thats what I worry about with the evo but I have a bad feeling on screen keyboards will be the big thing saves on wieght but I do agree I rather have the bulk my luck Id loose a phone like the evo lol

DaveTN 04-27-2010 09:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ajac (Post 1721787)
in all honesty win mo 6.5 will be phased out by december for sure.. thats a given since windows phone will be available.. to bad no sense on top of it or micro sd cards.. or cut and paste.. (on launch anyway)

If thats the case, then why are new 6.5.x builds being "leaked" out that end up being cooked into (much better than stock) ROM's. Obviously MS is still putting some development into the core OS to string it a long for a bit more.

just my .02 :silent:

David

DaveTN 04-27-2010 09:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ajac (Post 1721799)
thats what I worry about with the evo but I have a bad feeling on screen keyboards will be the big thing saves on wieght but I do agree I rather have the bulk my luck Id loose a phone like the evo lol

I'm not too fond of the onscreen keyboards which is one of the reasons I didn't go with a hero. I have an Ipod touch too and my thumbs are just too darn big to text on it.

The difference between the KB on my HTCTouch and my new TouchPro2 is great. Much better keys. I still have problems with the onscreen kb with it too....I'm all thumbs.

David

newkidd 04-27-2010 10:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tectronus (Post 1721047)
Awesome Quote! you should sig it!


done!

ajac 04-27-2010 10:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveTN (Post 1721824)
If thats the case, then why are new 6.5.x builds being "leaked" out that end up being cooked into (much better than stock) ROM's. Obviously MS is still putting some development into the core OS to string it a long for a bit more.

just my .02 :silent:

David

who knows same reason they continued to develop dos when windows 95 came out I guess just something to do maybe?

boeman 04-27-2010 12:10 PM

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the win9x kernel was run from DOS... it wasn't until XP that DOS was no longer necessary for the Windows OS for the average consumer computer

ajac 04-27-2010 12:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by boeman (Post 1722100)
the win9x kernel was run from DOS... it wasn't until XP that DOS was no longer necessary for the Windows OS for the average consumer computer

yup and even though it wasnt the future it still was being developed see what I mean?

elnene20 04-27-2010 01:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pimpsuprazx (Post 1721691)
Do people still believe everything they are told?

Its not that I believe everything that I am told! But I thought it was something worth mentioning since it does make sense. Look around you! Theres alot of droid stuff out there...I remember when Droid first came out, There was a topic here of wether to give it its own forum or not! Well guess what? It does have one now and its still going. Not that I am a Droid fan, but its the way the scales are tipping....Well to me it seems that way....

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajac (Post 1721739)
he feeding you one of the cornies lines. Shoudl have fired back "if thats true how come on verzions website the touch pro 2 is still listed?" and how come sprint and tmobile and AT&t are also still selling the devices? After he gives you yet another lame answer u proceed to leave and tell him to get a new job.

It wasnt that he was feeding me any corny lines...He just told me that they do not carry that phone in the stores and that phone was being discontinued incuding WinMo. But if I really wanted that particular phone it would have to be ordered. So he did not try to coarse me into any other phone but just simply stated why go with WinMo when they are being phased out..

Quote:

Originally Posted by nrfitchett4 (Post 1721605)
who needs the support of microsoft when we have the support of ppcgeeks and xda-dev's???

Couldn't agree more!

cddmh 04-27-2010 01:57 PM

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Ok, so I read the whole thread and now I am going to try to make a point that nobody else has made. You can't watch a television show on any channel across the cable spectrum with out seeing at least 1 Droid from Verizon ad. I am a truck driver and the billboards are everywhere nationwide. Verizon is treating droid as Att treated the IPhone. They are going to push you towards the Droids and Android OS to recoup their ad monies. Sprint did the same thing with the Instinct. I went to go get my TP1 and when the corporate store didn't have it yet, the tech tried to con me into an Instinct by claiming it was The IPhone killer. My love for HTC and my hatred of Samsung made the decision easier. I digress.
I don't believe that Microsoft is phasing out the WinMo OS because there is too many business users out there. I would venture to say that 80 percent of the TP2 users are business men that just use the phone as is.
As for lagging, I have some apps that I have collected over my years of enjoying windows phones and I don't see the lagging problem. But I guess I am old school and figure that if you don't try to drive a car faster than it was meant to go, you wont have problems.
As for Verizon getting IPhone next year, the real truth is that it was offered to Sprint and Verizon first. Neither company wanted the phone due to networks. Apple wanted it to have GSM capabilities so it could be sold round the world. Sprint and Verizon passed. Good Luck multitasking with it.
Sorry for the rambling, but I just wanted to input my opinion. I am just a truck driver, What do I know?

pimpsuprazx 04-27-2010 02:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cddmh (Post 1722369)
Ok, so I read the whole thread and now I am going to try to make a point that nobody else has made. You can't watch a television show on any channel across the cable spectrum with out seeing at least 1 Droid from Verizon ad. I am a truck driver and the billboards are everywhere nationwide. Verizon is treating droid as Att treated the IPhone. They are going to push you towards the Droids and Android OS to recoup their ad monies. Sprint did the same thing with the Instinct. I went to go get my TP1 and when the corporate store didn't have it yet, the tech tried to con me into an Instinct by claiming it was The IPhone killer. My love for HTC and my hatred of Samsung made the decision easier. I digress.
I don't believe that Microsoft is phasing out the WinMo OS because there is too many business users out there. I would venture to say that 80 percent of the TP2 users are business men that just use the phone as is.
As for lagging, I have some apps that I have collected over my years of enjoying windows phones and I don't see the lagging problem. But I guess I am old school and figure that if you don't try to drive a car faster than it was meant to go, you wont have problems.
As for Verizon getting IPhone next year, the real truth is that it was offered to Sprint and Verizon first. Neither company wanted the phone due to networks. Apple wanted it to have GSM capabilities so it could be sold round the world. Sprint and Verizon passed. Good Luck multitasking with it.
Sorry for the rambling, but I just wanted to input my opinion. I am just a truck driver, What do I know?

I applaud you, I think your absolutely correct.

And to add to that, to say winmo is being "phased" out is the equivalent of mr. Bill Gates saying microsoft is going out of business.

shaggylive 04-27-2010 03:43 PM

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not all winmo devices are phones. therefore they would not end up being winphone devices...

think ipad in reverse... remember M$ made the portable computing market possible with all thier hard work the last 10+ years.

pimpsuprazx 04-27-2010 04:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shaggylive (Post 1722591)
not all winmo devices are phones. therefore they would not end up being winphone devices...

think ipad in reverse... remember M$ made the portable computing market possible with all thier hard work the last 10+ years.

I'm not sure if that was directed to my statement I made, but I was already of that lol, and their phones are doing quite well, up until the last year, recently HTC has been doing hella commercials(for example, the HD2) , and in like 2008 I don't recall ever seeing one commercial.

IsmaelPR1 04-27-2010 10:01 PM

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I too must applaud you and also personally agree with your statement.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cddmh (Post 1722369)
Ok, so I read the whole thread and now I am going to try to make a point that nobody else has made. You can't watch a television show on any channel across the cable spectrum with out seeing at least 1 Droid from Verizon ad. I am a truck driver and the billboards are everywhere nationwide. Verizon is treating droid as Att treated the IPhone. They are going to push you towards the Droids and Android OS to recoup their ad monies. Sprint did the same thing with the Instinct. I went to go get my TP1 and when the corporate store didn't have it yet, the tech tried to con me into an Instinct by claiming it was The IPhone killer. My love for HTC and my hatred of Samsung made the decision easier. I digress.
I don't believe that Microsoft is phasing out the WinMo OS because there is too many business users out there. I would venture to say that 80 percent of the TP2 users are business men that just use the phone as is.
As for lagging, I have some apps that I have collected over my years of enjoying windows phones and I don't see the lagging problem. But I guess I am old school and figure that if you don't try to drive a car faster than it was meant to go, you wont have problems.
As for Verizon getting IPhone next year, the real truth is that it was offered to Sprint and Verizon first. Neither company wanted the phone due to networks. Apple wanted it to have GSM capabilities so it could be sold round the world. Sprint and Verizon passed. Good Luck multitasking with it.
Sorry for the rambling, but I just wanted to input my opinion. I am just a truck driver, What do I know?



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