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2kidz 04-18-2010 12:26 PM

6.1 camera vs 6.5???
 
my camera sucks since having been upgraded to 6.5! the pics are now very blurry whereas prior to the upgrade, the pics were super clear! has anybody experienced this and if so what did u do about it?

piranah 04-18-2010 12:27 PM

Re: 6.1 camera vs 6.5???
 
see that crosshair in the screen? move it on your screen to where you want the camera to focus. My pictures have never been clearer than on 6.5

2kidz 04-18-2010 01:04 PM

Re: 6.1 camera vs 6.5???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by piranah (Post 1705464)
see that crosshair in the screen? move it on your screen to where you want the camera to focus. My pictures have never been clearer than on 6.5

ummm...forgive my ignorance but what in the world is a 'crosshair'???

austin420 04-18-2010 01:43 PM

Re: 6.1 camera vs 6.5???
 
1 Attachment(s)
http://www.freeclipartnow.com/d/41645-1/Crosshairs.jpg

or on you camera screen the little t in the middle of the screen. you can move it around to change where the pic focuses at.

Deimoss 04-18-2010 01:46 PM

Re: 6.1 camera vs 6.5???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2kidz (Post 1705503)
ummm...forgive my ignorance but what in the world is a 'crosshair'???

remember kids. Google is your friend. Use him

can't believe someone cropped up a crosshairs image, before the OP could even use the powers of logic to google search the term he did not understand.

btw. Pictures are crystal clear in the right conditions, i.e good natural light, and steady hold of the camera, also allow it to auto focus until the crosshairs turn htc green :mrgreen:

youngpro83 04-18-2010 01:47 PM

Re: 6.1 camera vs 6.5???
 
Here is a regedit that may help with quality. You will need a registry tool to make the changes. Navigate to HKLM-Software-HTC-Camera-Image-JpegQuality-Superfine and change the 3MSize from whatever it is to 643628. The pictures come out more crisp. The settings I mentioned will give a 5.0 megapixel quality. Hope that helps.

Note: To actually see the regedit. Soft reset after changing registry. Go to your camera and hit settings-advanced and arrow to the second page of advanced settings and set the Quality from fine to Super fine. Then try and take a picture. Also if you take off the battery cover and clean the plastic circle that covers the phones camera lens, that should also help with clarity.

2kidz 04-18-2010 01:59 PM

Re: 6.1 camera vs 6.5???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Deimoss (Post 1705544)
remember kids. Google is your friend. Use him

can't believe someone cropped up a crosshairs image, before the OP could even use the powers of logic to google search the term he did not understand.

btw. Pictures are crystal clear in the right conditions, i.e good natural light, and steady hold of the camera, also allow it to auto focus until the crosshairs turn htc green :mrgreen:

@ Deimoss---> i am very familiar with the services that google is able to provide thank u very much! i did NOT use it as i didnt know if 'crosshairs' was a slang term or technical term! thank u very much for your response!

@ EVERYBODY else who responded---> thank u for your input!

austin420 04-18-2010 02:05 PM

Re: 6.1 camera vs 6.5???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Deimoss (Post 1705544)
remember kids. Google is your friend. Use him

can't believe someone cropped up a crosshairs image, before the OP could even use the powers of logic to google search the term he did not understand.

btw. Pictures are crystal clear in the right conditions, i.e good natural light, and steady hold of the camera, also allow it to auto focus until the crosshairs turn htc green :mrgreen:

the real cross hairs were a joke. as you can see,, i went back within 3 min. to add a real pic of the "cross hairs" that were referenced. sorry it took me 3 min. to take a screenshot. also the little t or x is accually called touch focus indicator. i dont think googleing crosshairs wouldve helped the ops problem with bad foucus. but thanks for your help anyway. ill even hit your thanks button.

Deimoss 04-18-2010 02:13 PM

Re: 6.1 camera vs 6.5???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by austin420 (Post 1705582)
the real cross hairs were a joke. as you can see,, i went back within 3 min. to add a real pic of the "cross hairs" that were referenced. sorry it took me 3 min. to take a screenshot. also the little t or x is accually called touch focus indicator. i dont think googleing crosshairs wouldve helped the ops problem with bad foucus. but thanks for your non help anyway. ill even hit your thanks button.

Touch Focus Indicator? are you kidding?

If one cannot use deductive reasoning to understand what you were talking about, that's sad

I guess I'm lucky i know what a cross hair is with or without a picture, and what it does, i.e focus on a target.

thanks for the thanked post though, I actually just thought you huge crosshair photo was funny.

deadwrong03 04-18-2010 02:16 PM

Re: 6.1 camera vs 6.5???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by youngpro83 (Post 1705549)
Here is a regedit that may help with quality. You will need a registry tool to make the changes. Navigate to HKLM-Software-HTC-Camera-Image-JpegQuality-Superfine and change the 3MSize from whatever it is to 643628. The pictures come out more crisp. The settings I mentioned will give a 5.0 megapixel quality. Hope that helps.

Note: To actually see the regedit. Soft reset after changing registry. Go to your camera and hit settings-advanced and arrow to the second page of advanced settings and set the Quality from fine to Super fine. Then try and take a picture. Also if you take off the battery cover and clean the plastic circle that covers the phones camera lens, that should also help with clarity.

has anyone else tried this regedit out before im looking to give it a try

[sammich] 04-18-2010 02:48 PM

Re: 6.1 camera vs 6.5???
 
You can't get 5 Megapixel quality out of a 3.2 Megapixel camera :drunken:

But you most certainly can change the compression ration to make it larger! However, the quality gap will be noticeable.

austin420 04-18-2010 03:03 PM

Re: 6.1 camera vs 6.5???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Deimoss (Post 1705596)
Touch Focus Indicator? are you kidding?

no. im not kidding. this is from the pdf online at sprint.com. page 111
http://support.sprint.com/global/pdf...ch_pro2_ug.pdf
To use Touch Focus:
1. Set the Camera to Photo or Contacts Picture mode.
2. Touch the area on the screen that you want to focus. The Touch Focus indicator (little plus sign pictured here) positions itself on
the selected area.
3. Touch to activate Auto Focus on the selected area and take the photo. See “Auto Focus” on page 100 for
more information.
or of you still have your manual, page74, at the bottom.

Deimoss 04-18-2010 06:44 PM

Re: 6.1 camera vs 6.5???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by austin420 (Post 1705657)
no. im not kidding. this is from the pdf online at sprint.com. page 111
http://support.sprint.com/global/pdf...ch_pro2_ug.pdf
To use Touch Focus:
1. Set the Camera to Photo or Contacts Picture mode.
2. Touch the area on the screen that you want to focus. The Touch Focus indicator (little plus sign pictured here) positions itself on
the selected area.
3. Touch to activate Auto Focus on the selected area and take the photo. See “Auto Focus” on page 100 for
more information.
or of you still have your manual, page74, at the bottom.

no are you serious?

a rose by any other name, have you ever heard of that expression?
or shall i finish it off for you? :D

Automaton 04-19-2010 01:22 AM

Re: 6.1 camera vs 6.5???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by youngpro83 (Post 1705549)
Here is a regedit that may help with quality. You will need a registry tool to make the changes. Navigate to HKLM-Software-HTC-Camera-Image-JpegQuality-Superfine and change the 3MSize from whatever it is to 643628. The pictures come out more crisp. The settings I mentioned will give a 5.0 megapixel quality. Hope that helps.

Uh... if you changed settings from Fine to Superfine, then THAT'S what made your pics look better. NOT this bogus reg edit. I tried it and could tell no difference, including file size. I already had my camera set to Superfine though.

youngpro83 04-19-2010 02:31 AM

Re: 6.1 camera vs 6.5???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ⌥ saumaun ☢ (Post 1705635)
But you most certainly can change the compression ration to make it larger! However, the quality gap will be noticeable.

This is exactly what I meant.....you just said it better.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Automaton (Post 1706415)
Uh... if you changed settings from Fine to Superfine, then THAT'S what made your pics look better. NOT this bogus reg edit. I tried it and could tell no difference, including file size. I already had my camera set to Superfine though.

Have you tried taking pics with the default filesize in superfine and then compared them with the ones after the filesize change? The change is not dramatic, but there IS a difference. I personally could care less about picture quality...its fine to me. I was just trying to give a SUGGESTION to a thread. So before you claim that there isnt a difference in how the pictures look....do some research first because there IS a difference.:mrgreen:

THE-COPS 04-19-2010 03:08 AM

Re: 6.1 camera vs 6.5???
 
I'm surprised that 2kidz didn't know what cross-hairs were. Yes, he/she could have googled it and got this http://www.google.com/search?client=...utf-8&oe=utf-8 . But just as easily, someone could have avoided the "Just Google it!" reply and wasting space. Not everyone is a smartass like you. Hell, could be dealing with a youngin here... lol sorry.

Now back to the OT. If your ISO setting is set to a low 100 or 200 and there isn't a lot of light available, you WILL get a blurry image if you are moving. ISO is basically an input light amplifier. The higher the ISO, the more the sensor boosts the light input signal. This gives the camera more to work with and causes it to increase shutter speed. Higher ISO's also introduce more noise. While lower ISO's provide a cleaner looking image. Shutter speed is just that, the fraction of a second (Or amount of time) the shutter stays open to capture an image. In this case, it doesn't have a mechanical shutter, but instead has an image sensor that captures a frame within a set time frame. That is, the speed at which it grabs an image. High shutter speeds allow for fast moving image taking or still life objects (freeze frame). Higher shutter speeds also mean less light to expose an image. Now, real low shutter speeds give you more light, but can easily blur because the image sensor captures an image for a longer period of time. As mentioned, ISO's will affect shutter speed, so using a lower ISO forces the camera to adjust shutter speed to a much lower value to compensate for less light amplification.

I'm not going to sit here and give an entire photography lesson. This is but a small cheap camera and sensor in a phone. Because of the lower quality image sensor and very small size, it's going to use low shutter speeds very often if you don't have enough light and if you don't have it set properly. Sometimes it's a compromise between image quality (graininess) and image clarity (focus/blur). Given enough light, you will get a rather decent looking image without having to compromise one or the other. No it's not a DSLR or a quality point and shoot, but if you know how to manipulate the settings properly , you can at least get an average looking image without the blur.

I noticed that even on standard quality setting, the file size can be quite ridiculous. I've seen 400+KB files on 1280x960 screen res, using standard image quality. IMO, the quality doesn't get much better than that using Fine or Super Fine. It just makes the file size gigantic. Again, I know it's not a quality point and shoot, but even that cheap $100 Kodak digital cam I had 8 years ago had way smaller file sizes (100-200KB) but the images still looked much better. Or so it appears. Make sure you turn down the sharpness setting to at least 2. Levels higher than that give it so much false edging like an unsharp mask jacked up to 300%. Making the file size even bigger than what is already available in super fine would not improve it. It's a 3.2 MP sensor. The actual quality of the images are about that of an average 2MP image. Also, jacking up the megapixel setting so it takes 5MP or higher, does no good. All that is really doing is digitally enlarging an images frame size. Blowing it up pretty much.


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