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afripino 04-15-2010 03:51 PM

Another SOD Story
 
Ok....I've scoured the threads and I'd like for us to finally put our heads together to figure out the cause and solution for SOD's. Mine started yesterday after flashing to ZONE-ROM. I'm not new to the ROM flashing game. I've been flashing custom ROM's since my PPC-6700 then Treo 700WX, then Touch Pro, and now my Touch Pro 2. I, like many of you, am a flashaholic. I was previously on MightyROM (latest release) with no problems since the initial release, so I'm really hating the phone's lack of reliability now.

I've done a bit of looking around, and this topic has been mentioned quite often, so I'll keep the first post brief. So far I've tried (in order)....

1. Flashing Stock (Sprint 6.5 Official) then hard reset - SOD
2. Ziggy's HTCServices.dll cab - SOD
3. Flashing back to MightyROM then hard reset - SOD
4. Ziggy's HTCServices.dll cab - SOD
5. Flashing Stock (Sprint 6.1 Official) then hard reset - SOD
6. Ziggy's HTCServices.dll cab - SOD
7. Task29 then flashing Stock (Sprint 6.1 Official) then hard reset - SOD
8. Ziggy's HTCServices.dll cab - SOD
9. Task29 then flashing Stock (Sprint 6.5 Official) then hard reset - SOD
10. Ziggy's HTCServices.dll cab - SOD
11. Task29 then flashing MightyROM then hard reset - SOD
12. Ziggy's HTCServices.dll cab - SOD

I am hard resetting after each flash. I don't think it has anything to do with Sense as the SOD occurs on the splash screen as well even with Sense disabled on any of these ROM's. My next attempt will be to flash a non-Sense (Titanium only) ROM, but it seems this will probably fail as well.

Anybody else have any ideas? It's quite a few people out there with SOD issues and I hope through this thread we can get everyone back on their feet (well....back on their phones at least).

afripino 04-15-2010 03:58 PM

Re: Another SOD Story
 
Also, I've tried taking the SIM out since some people were blaming the SIM as the cause, still SOD'ing.
Also, SD card isn't the issue, still SOD'ing after SD removed.

clueless25 04-15-2010 07:29 PM

Re: Another SOD Story
 
SOD's can occur if the use by date is not removed by the rom maker.. But sounds like if you flashed stock, you've got something old on your phone not going bye bye... try the task29 to wipe the memory on the phone... then try another rom.

kaos 04-15-2010 08:57 PM

Re: Another SOD Story
 
what unlocker you use? i used first one when day of release and had these issues. relocked went stock 6.5 update. unlocked with latest hard spl. then flashed custom no issues since.

Deimoss 04-15-2010 09:06 PM

Re: Another SOD Story
 
try deleting unneccesary or odd looking generated files from your SD card, if not just try booting without it

If you've already tried this i apologize, i just did not see it mentioned in the process of trial and error, Good luck it seems an odd issue

JDM_SOHC 04-15-2010 09:23 PM

Re: Another SOD Story
 
Same shit with my girls phone.. Her's does SOD on every ROM but stock....

afripino 04-15-2010 09:29 PM

Wirelessly posted (Opera/9.7 (WindowsMobile; PPC; Opera Mobi/35267; U; en; Presto/2.1.1))

I already tried task29 as described in the attempts above. Also tried booting without SD card as noted above.

I did find out something though...

Through dumb luck I found that the cause of my SOD is my Ext-USB connector on the bottom of the phone. It happens randomly when I unplug either a USB cable or charger. It goes away when I plug the charger into the phone and "jiggle" the connector at the phone. If I slowly remove the cable I can operate the phone without the SOD, but it will return if I quickly yank out the cord. Can anybody else try this out and see if that fixes any SODs out there? Who woulda thought it was hardware all along? At least for me it is...

afripino 04-15-2010 09:32 PM

Wirelessly posted (Opera/9.7 (WindowsMobile; PPC; Opera Mobi/35267; U; en; Presto/2.1.1))

As far as HSPL goes, I'm on the first one that came out. Should I switch to the latest one? Any benefits? I always thought it was a one time deal with Olinex and once you were unlocked you could only relock and that was it.

THE-COPS 04-16-2010 03:59 AM

Re: Another SOD Story
 
There's another unlocker besides Olinex's ?

What is SOD?

EDIT [ I'm assuming that is Screen Of Death?

Deimoss 04-16-2010 04:09 AM

Re: Another SOD Story
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by THE-COPS (Post 1702205)
There's another unlocker besides Olinex's ?

What is SOD?

EDIT [ I'm assuming that is Screen Of Death?

Sleep of Death..

kaos 04-16-2010 06:53 AM

Re: Another SOD Story
 
there were different version of unlocker. some had issues with first one. they redid some coding for latest one. i relocked the unlocked with newest with no issues.

NSTar 09-20-2010 12:27 PM

Re: Another SOD Story
 
Did the problem ever get resolved? I think it needs some cleaning...seems like if I pressed the power button at a certain angle, it switches on. Then after a few days, SOD.

My phone is now left on all the time so that I don't have to reset it.

NSTar 10-02-2010 02:42 AM

Re: Another SOD Story
 
Ok... my SOD has to do with the usb... weird, didn't know that it somehow affect the screen. Kept thinking it's the power button.

So, what I did was stick the charger in and then bend the charger, at the base of the phone, down.

Some how, the freakn phone started working properly. So I decided to bend a little harder because I kept on having to do that to turn it on. Click... so it lasted for a days... Well, today I had to bend it again.

frustrated, I wanted to open the damn phone up. Couldn't because it uses a special tool.

So I bent it harder... LOL, not it was just a little too hard. Oh well, I now keep my phone on and don't let it sleep.

If you guys have the tool to open it...this is where the problem is for SOD. I think it's due to putting your phone in your pocket and the case callapsing or having the phone charged too long and it somehow loosen the usb plug.

Erythros 10-02-2010 04:40 AM

Re: Another SOD Story
 
I have encountered the dreaded SOD and found that if I held the power button and the END button for a few seconds the button lights would come ON. I release the END key then repress it and I am able to come out of the SOD.
I have not had it for a while and that is how I remember coming out of it.

puff601 10-02-2010 01:21 PM

Re: Another SOD Story
 
are you guys sure its a SOD? me an a few other guys here had a similar issue. our problem was that it was not truly a SOD. my phone got to the point where it would never wake from sleep mode. the screen and everything would turn on but nothing would appear, screen was still black. the screen and everything was still usable but nothing showed up. i could turn the volume up/down using the volume buttons and the screen... if i pressed the volume button and the slid my finger up and down where the volume bar would normally be on the screen, the volume changed. so this proved to us that the screen was actually on, just not showing anything.

how about you guys try that. after you try and turn the screen on, see if you can press the volume key once then slide your finger up and down where the volume should appear on the screen and see if the volume changes... if it changes, more than likely your ribbon cable is either lose or tore a little. someone here that was having this same issue took their's to a repair center and they confirmed it was the ribbon cable, this is the cable that allows the screen to slide and tilt. try this and let me know. i really think its the ribbon cable. Let me know. here is the thread where we discussed this issue.
forum.ppcgeeks.com/htc-touch-pro-2/134075-screen-not-turning-after-sleep-but-not-sod.html

this drove me crazy, even after several hard reset, my screen still would not come all the way on. the first time it went to sleep after a hard reset, it refused to completely wake.

Erythros 10-03-2010 02:03 AM

Re: Another SOD Story
 
NOthing worked for me until I found that button combination...
Previously I would have to remove the cover and soft reset.

Ph33zy 10-03-2010 03:01 AM

Re: Another SOD Story
 
for those getting SODs... are you guys using gmail with IMAP (with Sense loaded)? i found that gmail with POP seems to help out...

NSTar 10-03-2010 05:16 AM

Re: Another SOD Story
 
Everything worked for me...volume, etc... just the screen doesn't come on. There is something loose in the minu usb connection. I used to think it was a stuck power button.

I first thought it was a software/rom issue. Tried many roms and wipes and same result. Tried pushing the power buttons many ways.. worked some times...but that's because by pressing the power button a certain way, I was also moving the usb ever slightly...made it work.

Then finally, I put in the usb plug and pressed down (opposite direction of the screen) and it worked for a while until it settles back into place... thus preventing the screen from coming on again. There is some dependency there..., I switched to droid and it still does the screen of death too... the usb method also works on the droid.

puff601 10-03-2010 08:19 PM

Re: Another SOD Story
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NSTar (Post 1964217)
Everything worked for me...volume, etc... just the screen doesn't come on. There is something loose in the minu usb connection. I used to think it was a stuck power button.

I first thought it was a software/rom issue. Tried many roms and wipes and same result. Tried pushing the power buttons many ways.. worked some times...but that's because by pressing the power button a certain way, I was also moving the usb ever slightly...made it work.

Then finally, I put in the usb plug and pressed down (opposite direction of the screen) and it worked for a while until it settles back into place... thus preventing the screen from coming on again. There is some dependency there..., I switched to droid and it still does the screen of death too... the usb method also works on the droid.

well its a hardware issue. the phone should still under warranty. have you tried to get a replacement? your phone is doin the same thing my previous tp2 was doing and i got mine replaced.

NSTar 10-04-2010 10:57 AM

Re: Another SOD Story
 
I can't... it's been over a year, plus, I've dropped the phone many times. So, I'm more likely having to get a new phone.

puff601 10-04-2010 03:09 PM

Re: Another SOD Story
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NSTar (Post 1964930)
I can't... it's been over a year, plus, I've dropped the phone many times. So, I'm more likely having to get a new phone.

do you have TEP or insurance? if not that sucks...

horndoctor 10-04-2010 05:41 PM

Wirelessly posted (htc Pocket PC: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 7.11) Sprint MP6950SP)

Quote:

Originally Posted by puff601
Quote:

Originally Posted by NSTar (Post 1964930)
I can't... it's been over a year, plus, I've dropped the phone many times. So, I'm more likely having to get a new phone.

do you have TEP or insurance? if not that sucks...

Yeah, if you are paying for the insurance even if you damaged it they will replace it.


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