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I did some searching and haven't found any info on this, but I might have missed something.

I just started using the Navigation function on my Sprint TP2 recently, and while it seems to work well in isolation, as soon as I make/receive a phone call (using a bluetooth hands free system), the nav system seems to stop working, among other problems.

Firstly, the phone doesn't go back to the Nav when the call ends, and I have to manually exit the call screen. That's a hassle, but not a deal killer.

More importantly, nothing navigation related seems to happen when I'm in the call. No directions are issued, the map appears not to be updated, etc. Sometimes exiting the call screen puts me back to the map, with the location indicator lagging WAY behind my current location. Sometimes it tries to "catch up", lagging behind, sometimes it is frozen in one location. Sometimes, it just dumps me out of the nav app (back to the 4 choice screen - Drive To, Search, etc.).

In any event, this makes the nav system totally useless if I have to take or make a call. I can't believe I'm the only one who has run into this. I would hate to have to buy a dedicated GPS after selling the wife on the idea that the phones have one built in.

Are there any fixes/solutions/tips towards resolving this?

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that's because your sprint nav uses your data connection. cdma devices can't talk and and do data at the same time. once your phone call ends, your data connection resumes and your gps will work fine again. so unless sprint is willing to update their protocol so we can talk and surf at the same time, there's no fix.

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lol, srsly?!!!?!! :D

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Yes, while the gps radio can function while on a call, the app needs CDMA to display and update your map. That is why you seem to lag behind after hanging up. That is also why the Nav app is so small; the maps aren't stored on your phone but it pulls it from the interwebz.

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OK, that's understandable. Unfortunate, but understandable. I guess that means that the GPS is basically useless for real-world applications, at least for me.

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get a stand alone app like garmin xt.

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Well, you could always just not make a call until you get where you are going.

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Just use mapping software that does not use your data connection. Then you will have no problems.

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Another vote for Garmin XT. Works great. I use it while I'm riding my motorcycle. Phone call comes in, pauses nav, finish call, lady starts talking again. A real necessity since I can't constantly be pulling over to reset the phone. Also lowers music to give directions. Great program.

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So, even with the Garmin software there are no voice prompts or on-screen updates while you are on a call? That would still be a deal-breaker.

But thanks for all the good info on this, everyone.

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When you answer a call the dialer comes to the foreground. So you just have to bring garmin xt back up and the maps keep updating during the call

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with garmin you can still use the gps and map features all you have to do is x out of the dialer app...this can be done without exiting the call...the only thing that wont work obviously is voice prompts...its designed not to interrupt your call. If gps is really that important to you along with talking while driving i would suggest getting a stand alone gps for cheap on craigslist.

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I use CoPilot with no issues (because all the maps are on the device like Garmin).

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OK, thanks for the clarification on that point. I guess I'll just have to start digging in to research the software available, vs. a good stand-alone.

Thanks again for all the help!

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i honestly feel you would be best served with a stand alone gps...i know the buffalo craigslist you can always find one for cheap...not sure where you are...

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I am sorry that this gets a little off topic for this thread, but how are you mounting the TP2 to the bike? I have been looking for a good way to use the TP2 with my motorcycle.... Would like to mount it somehow, and get power from the bike as well. Just looking for some experience ideas!!!

Thanks,

Chris

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check ebay...the company that makes the mount for my gps makes them for motorcycles...just cant remember the name of the company...but search ebay motorcycle gps mount it will be the most prominent one there.

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I also think the idea of a stand-alone is a good way to go. The reason is that when I was looking at getting a program such IGo, IGuidance etc it seems the manufacturer wants to sell you thier microsd card with the program loaded.

While this is probably a better way to make sure thier program isn't freely distributed, the size of thier cards leaves a lot to be desired (the biggest card I could find was only 8gb and I'm running 16). I know there are posts on how to get this to a bigger card but I don't have the time to try and move everything over and hope it works the first time.

Good Luck

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Be carfeful with IGo if you're using Kaspersky Mobile Security. There have been issues with compatibility when I was beta testing KMS9. I don't remember is the issues were fixed before the official KMS9 release (KMS9 MP1 is supposed to be tested in May).

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I see a bunch of "universals" ect, but not a cradle specifically for the TP2.

Thats why I was hoping that someone here has a similar need, and has already found something.. I like the nuvi style ball and socket, but is there a cradel that will fit that ball, and that will securly hold the TP2.

Best,

Chris

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Why do you have to answer the phone while you are on the GPS and also, if you are on the phone while using a dedicated GPS, you are still not going to be able to pay attention to it. Not to mention the fact that you are pretty dense for talking on the phone while trying to pay attention to a GPS while driving your car...

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Judgemental much?

Fact: When driving in a strange location, a GPS + common sense actually makes life safer.

Fact: You have no control of when someone calls you. Some calls are important enough to answer even when you are driving in a strange location.

As I mentioned before, I am using a hands-free system in the car. Yes, that doesn't eliminate driver distraction, but using common sense (i.e. being aware of your situation, and actively paying attention to the road) can alleviate that.

However, I have to assume from your attitude that you turn off your phone, radio and gag your passengers when driving. You also never drink, eat, take your hands off of the steering wheel or blink. Congrats.

Now, back to the real world.

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Well my gps doesnt work at all so what does that mean? No matter where I go it tells me my signal is too weak but the connection is strong.

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you are correct but what about somebody who uses bluetooth in their car (actually its a law in my state) so if i'm on bluetooth my hands are free. I'll be honest i have a nexus one and i've used this feature quite often. If it wasn't for that i would probably buy the n1 on my tp2 line and cancel tmobile altogether but i will be keeping the n1 on tmobile just for this feature. Bluetooth and speaker phone is what makes talking and surfing really possible, because obviously without those two you have to put the phone to your ear and talking and surfing isnt' realistic then.

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PM replied. But what I do is just use a Bluetooth stereo headset and leave the phone in my pocket. Program my destination before I leave. And use the headset to send/end the call. I have a Samsung bluetooth headset that has wired earbuds.

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Great replies that don't answer my question. How the heck would you listen/pay attention to your GPS and the person talking on the phone at the same time, while driving? This is the primary issue. Because, no matter what GPS app you use, your phone call will always cover up your screen, and if you are handling your phone to bring the gps back to the front of the screen, well... idiot driver much?

We have answered all your questions. We have pointed out the solutions (don't use the phone, use a dedicated unit, switch to GSM). The only thing remaining is, why not just use the phone as a GPS while you are driving so you save face with your wife, save money, and save lives... If you are able to safely listen to and follow directions from one source, while listening and carrying on a conversation from another source, well then, more power to you, just follow the instructions in this thread and you are set.

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under the cdma settings you can have calls go to voice mail while using data. that should fix the problem of incoming calls.
but i agree with the others. if you use your phone that much to talk while driving in unknown locations, get a stand alone gps and buy your wife some roses.

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Nagrom you are so use to cdma and need to think outside the box. On my android if I'm using my GPS and someone calls me guess what I have a Bluetooth in my car so I don't actually need to put the phone to your ear. And its nice to have my GPS still running and giving directions as I'm on the phone. The nice part is the GPS still talks to me just volume is extremely lowered because I'm on the phone but the other person on the line can't hear it. I believe the op is just trying to mimic this.

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Others have answered questions and given suggestions, you have just spouted judgmental attitude. But I will answer your questions.

I use bluetooth handsfree while driving. Using a dedicated GPS, even if I don't hear the instructions clearly, I can hear that instructions were given, and glance over at the GPS to see what's up. Using the phone, unfortunately, not so much. Heck, I even have the option of saying "hold on a second" to the person I am talking to, like any rational human might. I guess by not fully specify my decision/action tree while driving I led you to believe that what I really wanted was to drive blindfolded, inebriated and without my hands on the wheel. Sorry to have confused you so.

As you mention, the calling screen pops up and covers the GPS even with add-on software. As I have mentioned before (if you bothered reading), that's not something I want to happen. I agree that having to fiddle with the phone while talking and driving to get the GPS screen back up is not good.

I don't know where in my posts you saw me express a desire to be juggling the phone, switching screens, etc., but hopefully now you understand things better.

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OK, sorry if I was too judgmental or harsh. I'm a paramedic and have seen the accidents caused by people doing too many things other than driving.

Anyhow, hopefully you can ignore my attitude and use my suggestion of using a gps app that doesn't need an active data connection (i.e., Navicomputer, which is free).

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At this point I'm leaning towards a dedicated GPS unit. I've tried TomTom before and hated it, and also with a friend's Magellan. So that basically leaves Garmin, who seems to be having a lot of quality issues lately. I'm in a wait and see mode - wait and see what bargain I can find with a good return policy.

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Costco

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Yeah, but they don't carry the model I would want.

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So from what is being said here thst in fact the gps does work on the Sprint Touch Pro2??? I cant get mines to work at all and why is that?

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using stock, if its not 100% clear skies, i dont get **** in the way of gps on the sprintnav program. i have to use bing or google maps.

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Thats weird cuz on the first TP I was able to use no matter what the weather was. Should I call Sprint?

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if thats the only problem, and you can use an alternate gps app like google maps, i wouldnt call sprint. they may just replace your phone with one that has worse problems. dont sweat the small stuff.

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Yes, I found that the navigation worked very well, when that's all the phone was doing. There were times it wouldn't get a signal lock when I first turned it on, but that was usually when I had it in my hand sitting in the parking lot (i.e. the car's roof was right above it). If I moved it to the dash, it got a lock quickly.

There were a few times it lost signal during trips while it was on the dash, so it may be that the GPS lock was marginal, but I never did a signal strength check, and that was a rare problem for me.

Sorry to hear that you are having trouble with it.