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rorytmeadows 01-18-2010 11:28 PM

6.1 start menu
 
I know I've seen this before, but I can't find it with any search (probably searching the wrong terms). What's the name of the cab that brings back the 6.1 drop down start menu?

mikejones13 01-18-2010 11:46 PM

Re: 6.1 start menu
 
your probably looking for Quick Menu http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-...menu-v2-7.html

You can also try Awesome Start Menu http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587631 . Its a pretty nice program

tr0s 01-19-2010 12:22 AM

Re: 6.1 start menu
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rorytmeadows (Post 1500353)
I know I've seen this before, but I can't find it with any search (probably searching the wrong terms). What's the name of the cab that brings back the 6.1 drop down start menu?

if you're looking for the orignal win 6.1 start menu as opposed to the manilla start menu, i haven't seen a cab for it but I just do the registry edit to get it back. here are the instructions:
http://pocketnow.com/tweaks-hacks/di...nd2-touch-pro2

hope that helps

austin420 01-19-2010 12:28 AM

Re: 6.1 start menu
 
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most requested cab ever?
also adds programs tab to tf3d

tr0s 01-19-2010 12:34 AM

Re: 6.1 start menu
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by austin420 (Post 1500487)
most requested cab ever?
also adds programs tab to tf3d

wow... if that works, it would have saved me so many headaches when i was running stock!

rorytmeadows 01-19-2010 07:46 AM

Re: 6.1 start menu
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by austin420 (Post 1500487)
most requested cab ever?
also adds programs tab to tf3d

What exactly does this do again?

jmorton10 01-19-2010 08:04 AM

Re: 6.1 start menu
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rorytmeadows (Post 1500962)
What exactly does this do again?


It adds a TF tab for programs (although it is call favs or something like that IIRC)

It also brings back the cascading 6.1 start menu. It works super.

I am running manila 2..5 now so I'm not using it, but it worked super when I had the stock ROM running.

Here is "awesome start menu" which is what I use now:

http://i361.photobucket.com/albums/o...creen01-54.png

~John

DLCPhoto 01-19-2010 08:38 AM

Re: 6.1 start menu
 
Along these lines, I generally like TF3D on my WM6.1 Stock ROM. My main dissatisfaction is the fact that the Start Menu shows only 30 Items, and then I have to go to "All" and scroll through everything to find the one I want.

What I would like is the ability to add a "Folder" rather than an "App" to the Start Menu, that would allow me to categorize my Apps and make them dramatically more accessible. Selecting one of these Folders would then bring up a listing of just those apps that I have put there. Having these in the similar 10x3 arrangement of the initial Start Menu in TF3D would be ideal, but a simple listing would work also.

Is there a way to accomplish this without too much difficulty? I know Mobile Shell and other launchers will replace the entire interface, but I would prefer to keep what I have in the default TF3D, but just tweak it a little to be more functional.

Thanks.

jmorton10 01-19-2010 09:59 AM

Re: 6.1 start menu
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DLCPhoto (Post 1500990)

What I would like is the ability to add a "Folder" rather than an "App" to the Start Menu, .

That's easy Don, hook the phone to your LT with ActiveSync.

Then go to Windows/Start menu/Programs. Once you're in there, right click & create a new folder & name it whatever you want (you can see the one I created called "applications", I have all my most used everyday apps listed in there so I can get to them in one click with no scrolling))

Then drag/copy whatever existing shortcuts from outside the folder into it. After that, I usually delete the original shortcut.

~John

adrock1154 01-19-2010 10:01 AM

Re: 6.1 start menu
 
Quick question, maybe someone can help me out...

If I have customized icons for my slider, will the programs tab not match?

And if so, is there a way to fix this? I really enjoy the drop down menu

jmorton10 01-19-2010 10:33 AM

Re: 6.1 start menu
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by adrock1154 (Post 1501051)
Quick question, maybe someone can help me out...

If I have customized icons for my slider, will the programs tab not match?

That depends totally on what icon set you're using, some sets have a matching icon as part of the set/some don't

~John

adrock1154 01-19-2010 10:36 AM

Re: 6.1 start menu
 
I've got Tesalat iphone rhodium icon set, I don't want to add this killer menu though if it doesn't match.


Anyone know if this icon set would work?? or could I change the icon somehow???

jmorton10 01-19-2010 10:44 AM

Re: 6.1 start menu
 
Just try it & see if it works, you can always remove it if you don't like it.

Back up your system first with something like SPB backup, then you can always restore it no matter what happens.

~John

DLCPhoto 01-19-2010 10:52 AM

Re: 6.1 start menu
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmorton10 (Post 1501049)
That's easy Don, hook the phone to your LT with ActiveSync.

Then go to Windows/Start menu/Programs. Once you're in there, right click & create a new folder & name it whatever you want (you can see the one I created called "applications", I have all my most used everyday apps listed in there so I can get to them in one click with no scrolling))

Then drag/copy whatever existing shortcuts from outside the folder into it. After that, I usually delete the original shortcut.

~John

Hi John,

Thanks. I can see how this would work just fine with the traditional Start Menu outside of TF3D, but I'm not sure this would work within TF3D. When I check my phone now, I see a folder for Office Mobile inside \windows\Start Menu\Programs, but it doesn't show up within TF3D. If I attempt to insert a new item into the 30-icon TF3D Start Menu area, that folder doesn't show up either. So I'd have to assume that other folders I create within that directory would not show up either.

So, is there a way of getting this behavior within TF3D?

adrock1154 01-19-2010 11:11 AM

Re: 6.1 start menu
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmorton10 (Post 1501145)
Just try it & see if it works, you can always remove it if you don't like it.

Back up your system first with something like SPB backup, then you can always restore it no matter what happens.

~John

Couldn't I just remove the tab if I didn't like it...

Under the rearrangement of tabs I could just uncheck the box no?

Talon Pro 01-19-2010 11:37 AM

Re: 6.1 start menu
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DLCPhoto (Post 1501162)
Hi John,

Thanks. I can see how this would work just fine with the traditional Start Menu outside of TF3D, but I'm not sure this would work within TF3D. When I check my phone now, I see a folder for Office Mobile inside \windows\Start Menu\Programs, but it doesn't show up within TF3D. If I attempt to insert a new item into the 30-icon TF3D Start Menu area, that folder doesn't show up either. So I'd have to assume that other folders I create within that directory would not show up either.

So, is there a way of getting this behavior within TF3D?

Actually, on the new Start Menu, there is an icon for Office Mobile, which should be a 'folder' containing all of the short cuts. My wife has the only TP2 right now, so i cant verify as im at work, but i do know that icon is on the new Start Menu.

DLCPhoto 01-19-2010 11:51 AM

Re: 6.1 start menu
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Talon Pro (Post 1501261)
Actually, on the new Start Menu, there is an icon for Office Mobile, which should be a 'folder' containing all of the short cuts. My wife has the only TP2 right now, so i cant verify as im at work, but i do know that icon is on the new Start Menu.

When you say new Start Menu are you referring to WM6.5? If so, I'm on WM6.1 and likely to stay with it (I tried WM6.5 briefly on a TP2 I was returning, and it didn't bowl me over, with things I liked, others I didn't).

With WM6.1, as far as I can see, the Folders in Windows\Start Menu\Programs do not show up within TF3D.

DLCPhoto 01-19-2010 09:53 PM

Re: 6.1 start menu
 
Bump...

DLCPhoto 01-21-2010 08:19 AM

Re: 6.1 start menu
 
Bump again:

Does anybody know how/if it is possible to add "Folders" to the stock TF3D Start Menu, so that I can better organize my Apps and provide quicker and more efficient access to apps beyond the 3x10 that the TF3D provides, without having to go through all of them in 'All Applications'??

aldamon 01-21-2010 08:54 AM

Re: 6.1 start menu
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DLCPhoto (Post 1506064)
Bump again:

Does anybody know how/if it is possible to add "Folders" to the stock TF3D Start Menu

That's not really how the TF3D Start Menu works. It's just a simple screen with links, not navigable. Let's say there was a folder link in the Start Menu, where would the screen go when you tapped it? Not possible. In all honesty, if this were possible, there would already be solutions here or on XDA.

DLCPhoto 01-21-2010 02:43 PM

Re: 6.1 start menu
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aldamon (Post 1506091)
That's not really how the TF3D Start Menu works. It's just a simple screen with links, not navigable. Let's say there was a folder link in the Start Menu, where would the screen go when you tapped it? Not possible. In all honesty, if this were possible, there would already be solutions here or on XDA.

I figured as much, but it would be nice.

I know there are apps like Mobile Shell that seem to provide a much better interface in some respects, but I also read of various problems, incompatibilities, etc.

Is there any better Program Launcher that can be used within TF3D without completely revamping the User Interface?

The "regular" TF3D Start Menu isn't that bad, but it could definitely be improved and made more flexible and versatile.

onree 01-24-2010 01:07 AM

Re: 6.1 start menu
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aldamon (Post 1506091)
That's not really how the TF3D Start Menu works. It's just a simple screen with links, not navigable. Let's say there was a folder link in the Start Menu, where would the screen go when you tapped it? Not possible. In all honesty, if this were possible, there would already be solutions here or on XDA.


The thing is, this does already happen. As someone mentioned above, the Sprint Touch Pro2's stock behavior is to launch the HTC program launcher whenever the Start button/menu is activated. In the launcher, "Office Mobile" is one of the default programs, and clicking it actually launches another window which lists out the individual programs: Word Mobile, Excel Mobile, etc. So the folder concept is supported.

So yeah, I'd love to know if someone has figured out some way to support the same kind of folder behavior for user-created folders. Or even just for the "Games" folder!

Maan76 01-24-2010 01:11 AM

Re: 6.1 start menu
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmorton10 (Post 1500974)
It adds a TF tab for programs (although it is call favs or something like that IIRC)

It also brings back the cascading 6.1 start menu. It works super.

I am running manila 2..5 now so I'm not using it, but it worked super when I had the stock ROM running.

Here is "awesome start menu" which is what I use now:

http://i361.photobucket.com/albums/o...creen01-54.png

~John

beautiful taskbar and softbar .can you please post the .tsk or cab for the taskbars (sofbar and taskbar).

DLCPhoto 01-24-2010 10:03 AM

Re: 6.1 start menu
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by onree (Post 1512368)
The thing is, this does already happen. As someone mentioned above, the Sprint Touch Pro2's stock behavior is to launch the HTC program launcher whenever the Start button/menu is activated. In the launcher, "Office Mobile" is one of the default programs, and clicking it actually launches another window which lists out the individual programs: Word Mobile, Excel Mobile, etc. So the folder concept is supported.

So yeah, I'd love to know if someone has figured out some way to support the same kind of folder behavior for user-created folders. Or even just for the "Games" folder!

Exactly!! I'd love to be able to add Folders to the regular TF3D HTC Program Launcher, rather than being limited to the 30 Icons, or have to sort through the entire array of "All Applications."

aldamon 01-25-2010 11:04 AM

Re: 6.1 start menu
 
Hey, you guys were right. I searched around a bit and it looks like SolApathy has a solution for you:

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.p...4&postcount=25

Quote:

Hopefully this is a tip someone can use...

k...Here is how you create your own shortcut folders in Manila...

Create a folder under windows/start menu/programs. Name it whatever you want.
move program links from the programs folder into that folder using activesync

Now go under HLKM\SOFTWARE\HTC\MANILA\PROGRAMLAUNCHER\

chose a program position (they are labeled by number) & open it. Modify the following values (I will use "Utilities" as my example):
DispName: Utilities
IconPath: this is up to you, I leave it blank, but you can link to an icon in the folder you create)
IsReadOnly:0
Path:\Windows\Start Menu\Utilities

Now you may be saying what? The paths do not match between where you placed the folder & the path in the registry... You are right; apparently it assumes the path is: \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utilities.
So you just need to put in \Windows\Start Menu\Utilities

I hope this helps anyone looking to create folder links easily under manila

DLCPhoto 01-25-2010 02:43 PM

Re: 6.1 start menu
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aldamon (Post 1515082)
Hey, you guys were right. I searched around a bit and it looks like SolApathy has a solution for you:

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.p...4&postcount=25

I won't have a chance to play with this until later this week, but this looks exactly what I've been looking for! If it works, it really expands the functionality of TF3D's Start Menu system!!

Mojary 01-25-2010 03:28 PM

Re: 6.1 start menu
 
since this thread is regarding the start menu for 6.1, i was wondering if any of you guys know of a way to change the font colors (menu and on screen-no using tf3d at the moment). i've searched the forums and the closest answer i found was changing your tf3d fonts (from the xda website). there are a couple of wallpapers i'd like to use but don't because because since the font color is white, it's a little hard to read unless the background wallpaper is pre-dominantly dark in color. any help pointing to the right direction is much appreciated.

edit: running on stock ROM btw.


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