Another GPS Thread
 

Hey everyone,

I've been frequenting this forum since picking up my mogul and really appreciate a lot of the information I get here. Today I learned something and in return would like to return my tidbit of knowledge.

I work for Sprint and was asked to attend a training seminar today on the HTC Mogul. During the presentation by the person from HTC, a slide popped up showing Telenav enabled which raised many eyebrows. Both the HTC Rep and several others who work in the data division of Sprint broke it down. The Mogul will in fact have GPS and will not require an external puck to utilize the GPS.

The EVDO Rev A chipset as they explained has a subset of chips which are GPS chips, some of our aircards do also apparently. Obviously the tech side of this I cannot explain beyond what they said. Everyone ensured us, all sprint employees, that when the EVDO Rev A update is released late september/early october, the mogul will be able to utilize telenav services.

Now many of you may be naysayers, however I have no reason to troll this forum and pop in for the sake of wasting my time and yours. My only regret about switching from an Samsung M500 to the Mogul has been that I lost the GPS feature. Today I, like every other sales rep in the seminar, had my chin hit the ground at how this is going to put the mogul over the top. So take it for what it's worth, but when they push the EVDO Rev A update, you will all be happy users of the Mogul.

so basically you are saying that the aGPS will finally be enabled.

i guess that's good....right?

i don't know the specifics on how it works(not a hardware junkie). i know they said we will be able to use telenav to get turn by turn directions and that it is not just a gps for the e911 initiative.

GPS, interesting. i would love to see these slides.

Those slides indeed would be interesting to see.

Sounds like we'll still be locked into Sprint's Telenav package, though. Right?

Some good news is that Spring is still going to support this device, I was worried that we would be forgotten. With the E java manager there is a possibility that all power vision applications could be made available to this device. There goes another $5/month, glad I bought a bluetooth GPS.

Good news. Ill be purchasing the navigation package when its released.

telenav also uses agps, b/c all of the phones that run it now do NOT have full-fledged GPS receivers.

the only good thing I see is that there MIGHT be a possibility of hacking it, so it can take advantage of the aGPS and be used in apps like MGMaps, which have a specific "sprint" version which makes the agps act like a full fledged gps and work fairly decently. I used to have that app on my a900, and it worked great. i'm hoping I'll be able to use it again once the aGPS is enabled on the mogul.

If it's telenav locked, this is OK, but not great. I, for one, would rather purchase another program (iNav, TomTom, etc) and use it rather than use telenav, but GPS would still be nice...

dont know if this is good news or not.. want GPS, not aGPS. ill wait til the update and if its not standalone i guess ill get a bt receiver.

It'll be aGPS. It has to be. Most people want aGPS so that they don't have to worry about clear views of the sky, can use their GPS in buildings, ect.

If you want a true GPS you'll have to get an external module.

I wish I had taken a picture of the slide but I like all the other sales rep in the room were busy swiveling our heads around the room to the various persons commenting on it, it completely slipped my mind until afterwards.

besides that, it would not be easy to steal a shot of a power point presentation from 4 rows back with a mogul. i'm fairly confident one of the many persons involved in the presentation would have taken notice. last thing I need is to be fired. i doubt this is internal information as they made no effort to convey that but i like going to bed at night knowing i have a roof over my head.


some other questions raised were whether it will allow tracking applications. the htc rep said she was unable to answer that specifically because she did not know what the application entailed. but she said if it's something telenav has offered in the past she sees no reason as to why not since they code should be easy to write for the mogul. again she did not dive into details as to why because it would be over the head of many in the room.

i doubt youll get fired for letting us know the mogul can match up, gps-wise, to pretty much every FAR cellphone thats ever been sold..

Why is everyone up in arms about aGPS again? The original poster is correct that GPS will be coming to the Mogul in Q4 2007.

While I've had several Sprint employees tell me such, that does not matter. There is a thread, I believe, over at that xda-developers forum and they have determined that the chipset in the Mogul not only supports standalone GPS but something about 4 different modes of GPS.

So don't worry about the GPS functionality not being any good or only aGPS as it's not. :)

BTW, Another clear indication is that the Verizon version of the Mogul has the exact same hardware... but they will be offering full GPS support with the device.

Yeah thats what I thought.. then someone comes on here and says they heard straight from the horses mouth that its only aGPS... to be perfectly honest, i dont think sprint knows what the fuck it has.

Yeah thats what I thought.. then someone comes on here and says they heard straight from the horses mouth that its only aGPS... to be perfectly honest, i dont think sprint knows what the fuck it has.

Sprint wants to charge you for GPS and will not enable anything they cant charge for, welcome to Sprint

well if the vzw mogul has full?gps like everyone is saying it will I guess sprint won't have much say in the matter of whether or not they'll be able to charge us for gps.. you'd think they'd realize that and just enable the damn thing.. words cannot describe how much I don't want to have an external gps adapter floating around.. if theres one thing I cand stand its periphials that serve one purpose.

Sprint will enable aGPS through Telenav and most users will be happy because even if they gave us full GPS support 90% of the users that aren't on this site wouldn't know how to use it anyway.

I personally, as I said before, would rather have aGPS but wouldn't mind having full GPS support as well. I think that full GPS support would just be very nice for us to see in the developer community.

I just hope it is soon. I have a cross country trip planned end of Sept and was actually going to pick up a BT GPS for my mogul. Maybe not...

I agree.. soon would be soooooooo nice. I am seriously considering going back to my Sanyo M1 for GPS and Sprint TV and putting the Mogul on the $25 developer data package.

Sprint and Telenav need to get crackin.

So the Mogul has a dedicated GPS inside? Someone else said it couldn't be dedicated because there wasn't an antennae. Is this a new GPS chip where it doesn't need a physical antennae?

Well regarding the Tele-nav if you know any one who works for sprint you could find a tele nav demo that will last a year hehe thats wht im waiting on!

It does as do many phones (the BlackBerry 8800 has no external antenna but full GPS support).

It does as do many phones (the BlackBerry 8800 has no external antenna but full GPS support).

What they meant was that there is no antenna hooked up for GPS support as there is a place for one in the unit. Because of that reason many feel that they won't fully support GPS, only aGPS. Also remember I'm only repeating what I've read here and XDA, I haven't cracked my Mogul open to see.