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iofthestorm 11-18-2008 10:17 PM

Using Sprint Mogul on Verizon?
 
Hi guys,
I'm on Verizon with a regular flip phone (Samsung SCH-U550) and my friend who uses Sprint is offering to sell me his Sprint HTC Mogul. He just upgraded to a Touch Pro, which I wish I could own but the Mogul is not bad from what I can see. The only problem is that I've been trying to figure out if anyone's gotten a Sprint Mogul onto Verizon, and despite Verizon's pronouncement last year of allowing any devices, specifically including stuff from Sprint, onto their network, I keep finding threads from summer and earlier about how people couldn't get Verizon to activate their Sprint Moguls. I was wondering if anyone has been able to do this, because I would love to get the Mogul. My friend said the following:
"It's got a cracked spl so you can load up verizons firmware. It's still got a sprint esn though"

Will I be able to get this phone onto Verizon? Also, if I switch to that phone they won't try to force me into buying a data plan will they? I really want this phone because it's one of the few wifi-enabled phones on Verizon, and since I'm in college I have wifi basically everywhere. Thanks for the help.

Lylej2k 11-18-2008 10:21 PM

Re: Using Sprint Mogul on Verizon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iofthestorm (Post 528219)
Hi guys,
I'm on Verizon with a regular flip phone (Samsung SCH-U550) and my friend who uses Sprint is offering to sell me his Sprint HTC Mogul. He just upgraded to a Touch Pro, which I wish I could own but the Mogul is not bad from what I can see. The only problem is that I've been trying to figure out if anyone's gotten a Sprint Mogul onto Verizon, and despite Verizon's pronouncement last year of allowing any devices, specifically including stuff from Sprint, onto their network, I keep finding threads from summer and earlier about how people couldn't get Verizon to activate their Sprint Moguls. I was wondering if anyone has been able to do this, because I would love to get the Mogul. My friend said the following:
"It's got a cracked spl so you can load up verizons firmware. It's still got a sprint esn though"

Will I be able to get this phone onto Verizon? Also, if I switch to that phone they won't try to force me into buying a data plan will they? I really want this phone because it's one of the few wifi-enabled phones on Verizon, and since I'm in college I have wifi basically everywhere. Thanks for the help.

Before paying for it, try getting verizon to switch your phone to the mogul. Chances are they won't as its a sprint ESN however you might get lucky.

BigDiesel07 11-18-2008 10:25 PM

Re: Using Sprint Mogul on Verizon?
 
I would check out this thread...

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=15920

And before you get any critical comments, I would recommend using the search function before you post a new thread... Just a helpful piece of advice... I have gotten chided for not using it...

Welcome to PPC Geeks iofthestorm... You will find massive amounts of information right at your fingertips...

Lylej2k 11-18-2008 10:27 PM

Re: Using Sprint Mogul on Verizon?
 
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Originally Posted by BigDiesel07 (Post 528253)

Welcome to PPC Geeks iofthestorm... You will find massive amounts of information right at your fingertips...

I see what you're up to here.... But its not an intro thread so it doesn't count.... oh what the hell

welcome to the madness iofthestorm.

BigDiesel07 11-18-2008 10:30 PM

Re: Using Sprint Mogul on Verizon?
 
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Originally Posted by Lylej2k (Post 528264)
I see what you're up to here.... But its not an intro thread so it doesn't count.... oh what the hell

welcome to the madness iofthestorm.

hahahahahahahahahahaha... I nearly fell off my chair... Once I got the meaning of what you meant... Had to connect 2 and 2... Wow... I guess lighting does strike twice....

Lylej2k 11-18-2008 10:31 PM

Re: Using Sprint Mogul on Verizon?
 
LOL, now that makes 2 each we beat Coz to....

Edit: that is, since i've been counting!

iofthestorm 11-18-2008 10:33 PM

Re: Using Sprint Mogul on Verizon?
 
Hahah... I really have been searching a lot about this today, so sorry if I missed anything.

Oh wait, I saw that thread. It's pretty old though, which is why I asked the question if anything has changed recently.

Also, I asked because this guy http://www.howardforums.com/showpost...46&postcount=1 seems to have gotten it to work, and his post is the most recent on the subject that I found. So I was thinking maybe the guys here might know more.

BigDiesel07 11-18-2008 10:36 PM

Re: Using Sprint Mogul on Verizon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iofthestorm (Post 528287)
Hahah... I really have been searching a lot about this today, so sorry if I missed anything.

Oh wait, I saw that thread. It's pretty old though, which is why I asked the question if anything has changed recently.

Some people do search, some people don't... Also, seeing its your first post... You never know, ya know? lol...

I don't think anything has changed since that thread was created... But good looking out

BigDiesel07 11-18-2008 10:41 PM

Re: Using Sprint Mogul on Verizon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lylej2k (Post 528282)
LOL, now that makes 2 each we beat Coz to....

Edit: that is, since i've been counting!

I concur...

Lylej2k 11-18-2008 10:44 PM

Re: Using Sprint Mogul on Verizon?
 
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Originally Posted by BigDiesel07 (Post 528311)
I concur...

LOL time to start a tally....

Mylt1 11-19-2008 11:06 AM

Re: Using Sprint Mogul on Verizon?
 
ok, to answer the question. yes vzn will activate your phone. you will need to flash it to there software and call tech support and ask to have the ESN added to the DMD(device management database). tell them the phone is already setup for vzn. this will take some time and depending on who you talk to may take a couple for phone calls. i have a alltel 6800 on vzn. they told me they would call me once it was added but i never got that call and only found out it was added by doing the internet ESN switch. so call and keep on them. it will take up to 10 days to be added but check it once a day and if after 5 days it isnt hooked up call them back.

iofthestorm 11-19-2008 03:29 PM

Re: Using Sprint Mogul on Verizon?
 
Cool, thanks. How recent was this? I think I'll go ahead and buy the phone from my friend then, as long as the price he wants is reasonable. So the best thing to do is just keep trying, right? Legally they should be forced to allow me to add the device I guess.

BigDiesel07 11-19-2008 03:34 PM

Re: Using Sprint Mogul on Verizon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iofthestorm (Post 529677)
Cool, thanks. How recent was this? I think I'll go ahead and buy the phone from my friend then, as long as the price he wants is reasonable. So the best thing to do is just keep trying, right? Legally they should be forced to allow me to add the device I guess.

I don't think they are "legally" forced to allow you to add that device to their network... It would be too easy to cite "doesn't meet our network standards" or something along those lines...

iofthestorm 11-19-2008 03:42 PM

Re: Using Sprint Mogul on Verizon?
 
I guess you're probably right, but it's the exact same phone anyway. I think worst case I have to try calling several different times until I get a nice person. I'm guess if I go to a store they'll see that it's Sprint and be annoyed. I guess they threw in that "network standards" loophole when they made the announcement about opening their network in case they didn't want to actually be held to that. I remember they even said "If a guy working in his basement can make a phone on a breadboard that meets our standards, we'll activate it" and I guess the trick was the standards. Anyway, I guess in the very worst case I'm stuck with a PDA, which isn't so bad except then I have to carry around two phones.

BigDiesel07 11-19-2008 03:43 PM

Re: Using Sprint Mogul on Verizon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iofthestorm (Post 529719)
I guess you're probably right, but it's the exact same phone anyway. I think worst case I have to try calling several different times until I get a nice person. I'm guess if I go to a store they'll see that it's Sprint and be annoyed. I guess they threw in that "network standards" loophole when they made the announcement about opening their network in case they didn't want to actually be held to that. I remember they even said "If a guy working in his basement can make a phone on a breadboard that meets our standards, we'll activate it" and I guess the trick was the standards. Anyway, I guess in the very worst case I'm stuck with a PDA, which isn't so bad except then I have to carry around two phones.

lol... A PDA that runs WM 6.1 and has Wi-Fi access... A very nice PDA at that...

Mylt1 11-19-2008 04:32 PM

Re: Using Sprint Mogul on Verizon?
 
i had mine switched from alltel to vzn not more than 1.5 months ago. just unlock it, cook your own rom and select vzn as your carrier. then you need to check all the connection settings in EPST as well as create a connection for vzn and then call with your ESN. remember you want to ask to have a ESN added to there DMD. that should be it.

Mylt1 11-19-2008 04:33 PM

Re: Using Sprint Mogul on Verizon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDiesel07 (Post 529722)
lol... A PDA that runs WM 6.1 and has Wi-Fi access... A very nice PDA at that...

also add in GPS and camera to that nice PDA.


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