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michaelj1981 10-23-2008 08:12 PM
Android for Mogul
 
I would like to get android for my phone....is it possible. if so were do i get the file.

another ( if i do install it and dont like it can i install my wm6.1 back on my phone without messing up my phone.

hibby50 10-23-2008 08:13 PM
Re: Android for Mogul
 
wm is never uninstalled BUT the android currently out works really bad on the mogul

michaelj1981 10-23-2008 08:19 PM
Re: Android for Mogul
 
can you kinda explain why it works really bad for mogul...but still were do you get to download the file :)

baingle 10-23-2008 08:24 PM
Re: Android for Mogul
 
i have it installed on my mogul and as of right now, nothing really works. For instance, when i open the web browser it won't connect and you can't back out of it. Actually any application i open, i can't back out of. It looks nice but isn't really functional right now.

fildrigar 10-23-2008 10:11 PM
Re: Android for Mogul
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by baingle (Post 471312)
i have it installed on my mogul and as of right now, nothing really works. For instance, when i open the web browser it won't connect and you can't back out of it. Actually any application i open, i can't back out of. It looks nice but isn't really functional right now.
Push 'Shift' to back out of any screen. You can get the browser to work if you start up an application that uses data before you start android. The data connection should stay open long enough for you to start using it under android.

Android on the mogul isn't quite ready for prime time, yet. I'm hoping that now that the open source is released we can get up to functionality quickly. First thing we need is to have the keyboard working fully.

Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelj1981 (Post 471305)
can you kinda explain why it works really bad for mogul...but still were do you get to download the file :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelj1981 (Post 471300)
I would like to get android for my phone....is it possible. if so were do i get the file.

another ( if i do install it and dont like it can i install my wm6.1 back on my phone without messing up my phone.
Here is the link: ( http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/ ) There are also several threads here in the forums about it. ( The one to look for is 32 + pages long, started back in May or June ) It runs completely from the SD card, and doesn't change anything in memory at all. It's not really 'installed' per se, it just runs in ram from the SD card. The only way to quit it once you've started is to soft reset. Right now, it is really not that useable. Yes, you can browse the web, use SMS, make phone calls, etc. But, you can't save anything, so you have to retype everything everytime. I'm sure we aren't that far away from a full, good implementation of it. ( Crosses fingers. )

I have it installed on my phone mostly for the geek cred.

Shizemaneigan 10-24-2008 03:47 PM
Re: Android for Mogul
 
How do you even get past the screen where it asks you to press the menu key? I know its supposed to be volume down but the mogul does not have a volume down key. I bet its simple to fix but I cant figure it out.
Thanks.

fildrigar 10-24-2008 05:30 PM
Re: Android for Mogul
 
Try the 'OK' key, that's what worked for me.

DiGiTY 10-26-2008 04:36 AM
Re: Android for Mogul
 
so it runs virtualized or emulated or something like that? runs on top of WM?

EtherealRemnant 10-26-2008 06:13 AM
Re: Android for Mogul
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DiGiTY (Post 476197)
so it runs virtualized or emulated or something like that? runs on top of WM?
None of the above.

HaRET is a low-level bootloader... it knocks WinMo entirely out of RAM and boots up Android like if it was a linux live CD.

Itachi27 10-26-2008 05:06 PM
Re: Android for Mogul
 
ok im really new to all this smart phone stuff,what is an android...its purpose and uses?...do i need it? or do i want it?

x10guy 10-26-2008 06:47 PM
Re: Android for Mogul
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Itachi27 (Post 477016)
ok im really new to all this smart phone stuff,what is an android...its purpose and uses?...do i need it? or do i want it?
Android is a new Mobile operating system (owned by Google) that is based on Linux. It recently made a big splash with T-Mobile coming out with the first handset based on Android, called the G1.

Android has been ported over to Windows Mobile devices but it's not complete. It's up to you if you want to check it out but not all functions are supported.

DiGiTY 10-27-2008 09:31 PM
Re: Android for Mogul
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EtherealRemnant (Post 476253)
None of the above.

HaRET is a low-level bootloader... it knocks WinMo entirely out of RAM and boots up Android like if it was a linux live CD.
so it's not yet ROM, but not exactly a program... more like ROM-like? ...and that's why it doesn't fully function and doesn't run smoothly? ...or is it because the Mogul is inferior hardware-wise to the G1?

so if I do install Android on my Mogul, it won't erase my WM installation or data and I can always get back to my WM?

unvivid 10-27-2008 09:43 PM
Re: Android for Mogul
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DiGiTY (Post 480048)
so it's not yet ROM, but not exactly a program... more like ROM-like? ...and that's why it doesn't fully function and doesn't run smoothly? ...or is it because the Mogul is inferior hardware-wise to the G1?

so if I do install Android on my Mogul, it won't erase my WM installation or data and I can always get back to my WM?
It's not a ROM, you can consider Haret a bootloader. It will not replace WM, and to get back to WM you just need to soft reset your device (soft reset button, pull batt etc)

The lack of smoothness is because of the lack of drivers/optimization for the Mogul, Not necessarily a hardware deficiency. From what I've read the specs are fairly close.

Basically, you don't really have anything to lose from trying it. It's definitely not ready to run full time. But it's definitely worth a look. Barring an absolute catastrophe (or yourself running some risqué commands), you don't have to worry about anything.

DiGiTY 10-28-2008 04:14 AM
Re: Android for Mogul
 
sweet, thanx again.

do you think I could run apps I write on it?

megapinky 10-28-2008 07:57 PM
Re: Android for Mogul
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by fildrigar (Post 471460)
Push 'Shift' to back out of any screen. You can get the browser to work if you start up an application that uses data before you start android. The data connection should stay open long enough for you to start using it under android.

Android on the mogul isn't quite ready for prime time, yet. I'm hoping that now that the open source is released we can get up to functionality quickly. First thing we need is to have the keyboard working fully.




Here is the link: ( http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/ ) There are also several threads here in the forums about it. ( The one to look for is 32 + pages long, started back in May or June ) It runs completely from the SD card, and doesn't change anything in memory at all. It's not really 'installed' per se, it just runs in ram from the SD card. The only way to quit it once you've started is to soft reset. Right now, it is really not that useable. Yes, you can browse the web, use SMS, make phone calls, etc. But, you can't save anything, so you have to retype everything everytime. I'm sure we aren't that far away from a full, good implementation of it. ( Crosses fingers. )

I have it installed on my phone mostly for the geek cred.
how can you make a call or answare it? which button?

thx :mrgreen:

bpaskiewicz 10-29-2008 09:51 AM
Re: Android for Mogul
 
To someone who has got Android up and running on a mogul...

What ROM are you using? Haret always stops after a while then I have to pull out the batt to reset it.

one80oneday 11-07-2008 02:45 PM
Re: Android for Mogul
 
Where can I find the latest info about making an Android ROM for the HTC Mogul? Also I would like to help if there is anything I can do :mrgreen:

schettj 11-09-2008 10:51 AM
Re: Android for Mogul
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bpaskiewicz (Post 482594)
To someone who has got Android up and running on a mogul...

What ROM are you using? Haret always stops after a while then I have to pull out the batt to reset it.
I just used the one bundled with the vogue android build, on a stock Sprint wm6.1 rom, running off a 4gb sdhc card. No problems at all.

one80oneday 11-09-2008 01:33 PM
Re: Android for Mogul
 
I have nueROM3pre3 running. The first time I tried it kept failing but then I used my old 512 micro sd card, deleted everything, then placed all the files directly on it and it worked. Keyboard, internet, and calls worked fine but the touch screen is really hard to use. I mean it has bugs but if I could erase WM and just run Android then I could deal with the bugs. Android only seems to use about 15mb of RAM

princem131 11-12-2008 12:49 AM
Re: Android for Mogul
 
I agree I got Andriod running on my Mogul and it is very impressive even in its buggy state. I cant wait to see how it runs when its fully functional. I wish I could do more with mine but I dont have service on my Mogul anymore since I got the Touch Pro. I really cant wait to load it on there once they get that going. What version of Andriod are you all running on your Mogul's because I was having trouble downloading some of the files? The one I have none of the buttons seem to work except the OK and windows keys on the keyboard, so I have to keep it open to use Android. Good work guys I'd love to help in any way I can. Can't wait to get Andriod on my SERO plan! :)
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DDavis90 11-19-2008 10:17 PM
Re: Android for Mogul
 
Hey I was trying to install and run the android software from this link on my sprint mogul. http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/ It comes to the boot screen but stops at 16.864478 Fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed. Can anyone help me out with this.

Thanks in advance for your help.

4 Door Skyline 11-19-2008 11:18 PM
Re: Android for Mogul
 
make sure its on the root of the sd card, and not in a folder, also try reformatting ur sd card if that doesnt work

DDavis90 11-20-2008 12:47 AM
Re: Android for Mogul
 
4 Door Skyline I tried that and also made sure that internet explorer had a connection...I usually let it sit like that for about 10 minutes...should I keep waiting?

DDavis90 11-20-2008 12:48 PM
Re: Android for Mogul
 
Good afternoon everyone. I have been trying to put the android on my sprint mogul all morning. I get a lot of different messages during the boot. It will usually freeze with the last line saying can't acces tty; job control turned off. Can anyone help me please. I really would like this running on my phone.

peterm20 11-21-2008 05:59 PM
Re: Android for Mogul
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4 Door Skyline (Post 530739)
make sure its on the root of the sd card, and not in a folder, also try reformatting ur sd card if that doesnt work
the only files that have to be in the SD root is data.gz(data.img) and system.gz(system.img). there is a cab installer at http://www.myhtcphone.com/ that worked for me. heres my startup.txt(default.txt if you use the vogue package)

--begin startup.txt
set MTYPE 1463
set KERNEL zImage
# I am testing keyboard on angstrom image
#set initrd angstrom.bin
# This one is Android from Vogue files
set initrd initrd.gz

set cmdline "ppp.username=YOURNAME@sprintpcs.com ppp.password=YOURPASSWORD msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax=32000000 pm.sleep_mode=0 board-htcvogue.panel_type=1 fbcon=rotate:3"

boot

--end startup.txt

i found this on the titan forum at xda

Spr0ckEt 11-24-2008 04:08 AM
Re: Android for Mogul
 
Attention newbies, THIS LINK IS FOR THE VOGUE, not the Titan. It is NOT an operating system. Think of it as more of a program that you can run to see the functionality of it. Because it was developed for the Vogue, the buttons are mapped differently. The "Q" button is a menu button and SHIFT is a back button. (kinda like your OK button in windows mobile)

Good luck.

kkruse 11-01-2009 01:58 AM
Re: Android for Mogul
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by peterm20 (Post 534588)

set cmdline "ppp.username=YOURNAME@sprintpcs.com ppp.password=YOURPASSWORD msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax=32000000 pm.sleep_mode=0 board-htcvogue.panel_type=1 fbcon=rotate:3"
How can i find out my ppp user and pass?

blackmeto 10-14-2010 08:44 AM
Re: Android for Mogul
 
has anyone perfected getting android on a htc mogul yet?

Abovecrazykid 11-19-2010 02:06 AM
Re: Android for Mogul
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackmeto (Post 1973364)
has anyone perfected getting android on a htc mogul yet?
Im sure since the hero and eris are now more affordable all efforts here have ceased, It would have been nice to see though.

katlisota 06-21-2011 02:44 PM
Re: Android for Mogul
 
Hi, I would like to update my Mogul from WM to Android, i don't know how to do it and where to find the aproppiate software, can you help me???

imperialturkey 05-15-2012 03:49 AM
Re: Android for Mogul
 
how do you get past the knight rider screen?


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