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sandiegodude 10-13-2008 04:05 PM

Does anyone else use wmwifirouter all day long?
 
Hey guys.
I've been using an extra sero line + wmwifirouter as my primary internet connection at home for the past month. No torrent downloads or anything crazy like that.
I've even been able to share files between pc's and share printers on the network through wmwifirouter.
What a great app!
My question is for anyone else out there who uses wmwifirouter all day every day.

How long before the remote party ends your connection?
Waiting for ICS makes me need to restart.
I have to soft reset my phone once or twice a day in order to keep online.
Anyone with the same problem?
Using v.92

I would love to be able to set it and forget it, just like a linksys.
Am I dreaming?
:)


Thanks!!

schettj 10-13-2008 05:30 PM

Re: Does anyone else use wmwifirouter all day long?
 
Dude, get a real internet connection.

Goose. Golden Egg. You. Dead Goose.

Mastanthony89 10-13-2008 07:11 PM

Re: Does anyone else use wmwifirouter all day long?
 
Some people dont have high speed available in there area and its cell or Satellite and $30 sero is faster and better then $100 satellite internet

frazell 10-13-2008 07:54 PM

Re: Does anyone else use wmwifirouter all day long?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by schettj (Post 457201)
Dude, get a real internet connection.

Goose. Golden Egg. You. Dead Goose.

What is a "real" internet connection? What makes a cell connection any less "real"? Not sure you deciding what someone else should be using makes it a valid "real" connection. It is accurate to say any connection to the internet is a "real" connection...

Now to move onto to the discussed topic...

I don't use ICS, but it seems that with a setup that sophisticated (from a net sharing perspective) it would make more sense to get the old Modem Link working on your Mogul and setup one computer to use ICS on the computer and throw it up via an ad hoc WiFi network via the one comp.... That way the comp can then redial the net whenever it drops...

sandiegodude 10-13-2008 07:57 PM

Re: Does anyone else use wmwifirouter all day long?
 
That sounds good, but will it be as stable as wmwifi? If I can get wmwifirouter to keep a connection for over 5 hours, that would be the best/easiest!

frazell 10-13-2008 08:00 PM

Re: Does anyone else use wmwifirouter all day long?
 
Well would it matter? If the connection dropped ICS on the one comp would just redial it and be back online like nothing ever happened...

I haven't used Modem Link since my old MDA days so I don't know how stable it is, but I'd imagine it should be more than fine. I tether through Bluetooth only as it is the best option for me.

sparhawk6 10-13-2008 08:10 PM

Re: Does anyone else use wmwifirouter all day long?
 
You will surely be contacted by Sprint and probably later terminated if you used it as your primary internet connection at home. That is, unless you use it about as much as your average 80 year old. But the fact that you know what torrents are and are posting here leads me to believe that that is not true.

frazell 10-13-2008 08:13 PM

Re: Does anyone else use wmwifirouter all day long?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sparhawk6 (Post 457425)
You will surely be contacted by Sprint and probably later terminated if you used it as your primary internet connection at home. That is, unless you use it about as much as your average 80 year old. But the fact that you know what torrents are and are posting here leads me to believe that that is not true.

It is an issue that could be argued I'd imagine... I mean I have WMTorrent on my phone and download torrents directly on my phone without tethering at all...

rdd0512 10-14-2008 06:12 AM

Re: Does anyone else use wmwifirouter all day long?
 
i use wmwifirouter alot. the only problem i had was the phone would stop charging cause of the heat, now i just keep it in front of a fan plugged in. stays connected. sometimes you will notice that the transfer bars go "grey" on the top bar. all you have to do is make sure you have auto reconnect enabled in the wmwifirouter settings and then tap the icon up there and it will pop up the bubble and then hit disconnect, then it will automatically reconnect w/o the need of a soft reset.

schettj 10-14-2008 08:43 AM

Re: Does anyone else use wmwifirouter all day long?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by frazell (Post 457396)
What is a "real" internet connection? What makes a cell connection any less "real"? Not sure you deciding what someone else should be using makes it a valid "real" connection. It is accurate to say any connection to the internet is a "real" connection...

A real connection would be a sprint aircard, and associated service, if all you can get is cell.\

Its unlikely but possible that you live somewhere where there is EVDO service but no broadband, but it seems unlikely. I won't discount it.

This casual breaking of the TOS is overlooked by Sprint when the usage is sporadic and low (ie, now and then connect tethered to laptop) but they will eventually flag this kind of use.

I suggest you consider it if this is your home broadband. If for no other reason then you'll toast your phone after a few months...

shaggylive 10-14-2008 01:41 PM

Re: Does anyone else use wmwifirouter all day long?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by schettj (Post 457831)
A real connection would be a sprint aircard, and associated service, if all you can get is cell.\

Its unlikely but possible that you live somewhere where there is EVDO service but no broadband, but it seems unlikely. I won't discount it.

This casual breaking of the TOS is overlooked by Sprint when the usage is sporadic and low (ie, now and then connect tethered to laptop) but they will eventually flag this kind of use.

I suggest you consider it if this is your home broadband. If for no other reason then you'll toast your phone after a few months...

www.wildblue.com

sandiegodude 10-14-2008 01:48 PM

Re: Does anyone else use wmwifirouter all day long?
 
Hey guys, I check my data usage on my two lines:
My "wmwifirouter" mogul= 2GB/month average
My "regular, non-tethered mogul= 3GB/month average
Yes, I stream a lot of slingplayer mobile, orb, download podcasts, and download some torrents directly to my phone. vs. my home pc conneciton which I use for general browsing, email, transferring files, and printing.
So basically, even my 2GB/month usage on my mogul via wmwifirouter is less than my ppc using evdo without wmfifirouter. How can sprint tell me i'm using too much bandwidth?
P.S. I have microsoft autoupdates disabled. :P

sandiegodude 10-14-2008 01:50 PM

Re: Does anyone else use wmwifirouter all day long?
 
wildblue looks cool, but you can't take it everywhere with you like an aircard or mogul. I enjoy using my mogul & laptop ala wmwifi while waiting for an oil change, waiting at the airport between flights etc.. It's soo handy!

electronicrice 10-14-2008 02:40 PM

Re: Does anyone else use wmwifirouter all day long?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sparhawk6 (Post 457425)
You will surely be contacted by Sprint and probably later terminated if you used it as your primary internet connection at home. That is, unless you use it about as much as your average 80 year old. But the fact that you know what torrents are and are posting here leads me to believe that that is not true.

Ever since I got my Mogul I've used it as my primary internet connection. I downloaded movies, torrented games, downloaded music, surfed the web, IMed, etc. I averaged well over 10GB in data usage per month. And that was with sharing it over my router with my roommate. I've never once been contacted by Sprint and my account was never terminated. It is definitely possible and obviously Sprint is lax on the issue.

shaggylive 10-14-2008 02:47 PM

Re: Does anyone else use wmwifirouter all day long?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sandiegodude (Post 458183)
wildblue looks cool, but you can't take it everywhere with you like an aircard or mogul. I enjoy using my mogul & laptop ala wmwifi while waiting for an oil change, waiting at the airport between flights etc.. It's soo handy!

agreed, but
Quote:

Originally Posted by electronicrice (Post 458248)
Ever since I got my Mogul I've used it as my primary internet connection. I downloaded movies, torrented games, downloaded music, surfed the web, IMed, etc. I averaged well over 10GB in data usage per month. And that was with sharing it over my router with my roommate. I've never once been contacted by Sprint and my account was never terminated. It is definitely possible and obviously Sprint is lax on the issue.

using like this can only spell doom for the former

sparhawk6 10-14-2008 04:41 PM

Re: Does anyone else use wmwifirouter all day long?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by electronicrice (Post 458248)
Ever since I got my Mogul I've used it as my primary internet connection. I downloaded movies, torrented games, downloaded music, surfed the web, IMed, etc. I averaged well over 10GB in data usage per month. And that was with sharing it over my router with my roommate. I've never once been contacted by Sprint and my account was never terminated. It is definitely possible and obviously Sprint is lax on the issue.

You're living life on the edge. The casual and minor breaking of the TOS is overlooked by Sprint, but you are abusing it. I can't imagine that they haven't at least looked at your account yet. They've just decided not to warn you ....yet. I don't even average over 10GB a month on my broadband connection over cable.

rdd0512 10-14-2008 05:40 PM

Re: Does anyone else use wmwifirouter all day long?
 
how is using 10 gb a breech of the tos. when u have an UNLIMITED data plan and when you check online it says UNLIMITED in the box next to the usage. i dont use 10 gb but flirt with 5 gb / a month

sparhawk6 10-14-2008 07:37 PM

Re: Does anyone else use wmwifirouter all day long?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rdd0512 (Post 458543)
how is using 10 gb a breech of the tos. when u have an UNLIMITED data plan and when you check online it says UNLIMITED in the box next to the usage. i dont use 10 gb but flirt with 5 gb / a month

The data usage is not a breach of the TOS. Using your phone as a wifi router and sharing the EVDO connection with other devices IS a breach of the TOS.

deviant.ones 10-14-2008 09:34 PM

Re: Does anyone else use wmwifirouter all day long?
 
I am almost 100% certain if I used mine as a primary internet I would be flagged if not straight out terminated seeing that my average month of bandwidth at my home is 300-400GB Down and 100-200GB up.

sparhawk6 10-14-2008 11:18 PM

Re: Does anyone else use wmwifirouter all day long?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deviant.ones (Post 458851)
I am almost 100% certain if I used mine as a primary internet I would be flagged if not straight out terminated seeing that my average month of bandwidth at my home is 300-400GB Down and 100-200GB up.

Wow. Who is your ISP?

rdd0512 10-14-2008 11:19 PM

Re: Does anyone else use wmwifirouter all day long?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deviant.ones (Post 458851)
I am almost 100% certain if I used mine as a primary internet I would be flagged if not straight out terminated seeing that my average month of bandwidth at my home is 300-400GB Down and 100-200GB up.

well yeah that much would, but im just sayin.... for the average user not the extreme user, and besides they would have to prove that you were tethering and i find that it would be difficult to do and then they would have to deal with alot of individuals and inspect every account, i beleive that would be very frivolous and tedious not to mention time consuming and not very cost effective.

MrObvious 10-14-2008 11:57 PM

Re: Does anyone else use wmwifirouter all day long?
 
Wow for any account 3-400GB usage is a lot. I would be asking for a business account without restrictions. lol

deviant.ones 10-15-2008 03:24 AM

Re: Does anyone else use wmwifirouter all day long?
 
Is charter and just an average cable account. Just have not seen any restrictions since we moved here a few months ago and I have a few progs that monitor my bandwidth since I host a few sites and tend to aquire and disburse a whole lot of data and for this month so far I am sitting at 273GB down already and 98GB up. I hate living in the country though cause I feel limited by only being able to download at 1.4m/s and upload at 160k/s. I miss my truly high speed account I had in SoCal before my wife got stationed in NC.

KuRuPtIoN 10-15-2008 05:11 AM

Re: Does anyone else use wmwifirouter all day long?
 
I use wmwifirouter about 8 hrs a day @work and mine never disconnects or anything. I did notice like someone else said that after awhile it stops charging, never knew it was because of the heat though. But other than that i've had no problems with it at all.

yeahian 10-15-2008 05:28 AM

Re: Does anyone else use wmwifirouter all day long?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rdd0512 (Post 458543)
how is using 10 gb a breech of the tos. when u have an UNLIMITED data plan and when you check online it says UNLIMITED in the box next to the usage. i dont use 10 gb but flirt with 5 gb / a month

5gb is sprints limit now a days

rdd0512 10-15-2008 05:47 AM

Re: Does anyone else use wmwifirouter all day long?
 
5 gb for AIRCARDS. not for my phone use, and as far as they know i am using my phone. thats why it still says unlimited on my usage

iakir 10-18-2008 11:27 PM

Re: Does anyone else use wmwifirouter all day long?
 
Yes, I am a frequent user myself and I must agree it is a great app. It all depends on my battery before it times out on me. I have recently had my 6800 swapped to a brand new one out the box, new battery and all, and I have gotten 2+ hrs of run time when before I could get about and hr. I have the latest versions and everything. Im not sure if that answered your question or not, but that is my experience.

rocketgsx 01-24-2009 11:26 PM

Re: Does anyone else use wmwifirouter all day long?
 
Just in case anyone else is having trouble with the phone not charging after prolonged use: it is simply due to the heat build up. You can delay this by simply sliding open your keyboard to improve air flow/ cooling, but it will not help all that much. I recently switched to a touch pro, which as many have found gets incredibly warm even under moderate loads. I am also using No2chem's rapid battery charging drivers (about double the standard rate of charge) When using wmwifi for prolonged periods I simply set it on a notebook cooling pad (small fan blowing across the unit) and can let it run indefinitely under full load. Anything that increases airflow will help!

lakai180 01-25-2009 01:17 AM

Re: Does anyone else use wmwifirouter all day long?
 
I upgraded to the simply everything plan as a precaution, but i'm up to 20+ gb per month the last 2 months... Sprints on their last leg with me and in general, I use to work for them. Let them cancel me without an ETF... Haha.. I'll just go with better reception to Verizon...

crazychef 01-25-2009 04:39 AM

Re: Does anyone else use wmwifirouter all day long?
 
a few things i guess...

1) i use mine alot, like a Ton.. i just looked im at 6,663,385kb.. not too bad, but i dont DL music and im not big on YouTube.. so i can only imagine how high it can get...

2) its really arguable legally what sprint can do to us for it..aside from the TOS does say they can terminate for ANY reason... but when you enter a contract under one term(remember it wasnt capped at 5gb=unlimited for quite awhile) and then sprint changes it, by law your grandfathered into that original deal... so its questionable if they could stick you with fees...but they can term ya..


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