Noobie needs help with low memory on PPC6800
 

New to the site and PPC 6800 with latest HTC ROM and I have always had low "Program" memory (never more than 15MB, but usually 8-10MB) but I have 95MB of Storage memory.

I have been using a WM 2003 PDA for years and the Memory was always directly adjustable according to your needs for more "progam" memory of "Storage" and with this PPC6800 with 256MB of RAM I was assured by Alltel that this PPC phone would be a business capable PDA phone and it's always been slow and runs low on memory even with "NO Programs" running in setings.

I have a 4GB microSD card and have most files and some programs on the SD card.

I've even stripped the PPC6800 down to the default system(Hard Rest) and still not much "program" memory but more than 13MB...around 19-20MB.

What are my options that you gurus may have found to help here?

I now know the memory on WM6 is managed automatically, but I would expect it to adjust the storage/program as needed when I run programs/Applications.

Thanks in advance for any & all help guys!

Re: Noobie needs help with low memory on PPC6800
 

Install both of these.

Oxios Memory will help you clear used memory by applications that have been "closed" but are still running.

X Button will give you a small menu at the top right of the Today screen that will make it easier to close running applications that you are not using.

Re: Noobie needs help with low memory on PPC6800
 

I would also suggest getting a cleanup utility, such as Memmaid or SK Tools to clean out any internet debris that's accumulated.

Re: Noobie needs help with low memory on PPC6800
 

I installed Oxios and am I right in assuming that you have to constantly run both apps it comes with in order to clear memory? Or does it run in the background and do it automatically. Memmaid and SKtools is something I was looking at trying as well. I heard that SKtools however has much more to offer as far as other options and apps right?

Re: Noobie needs help with low memory on PPC6800
 

I think sktools is better myself, but I don't run either of those anymore. I am good about closing what I am not using and run oxios once or twice a day (manually, cannot run automatically). And I stay around 35-40% free memory...

Re: Noobie needs help with low memory on PPC6800
 

upgrade to newest rom. leave it stock. here is a link. download, and run it on your computer. its easy as pie. i am having ZERO memory issues by doing this. im running HTC home application too, and its booting with 22+ mb everytime. very snappy.

http://www.geek-pages.com/rom/RUU_TI..._0619_Ship.exe

Re: My Low Memory is with NO Prog and cleaned w/ MemMaid
 

Thanks fo rall the input.

I have always use the "X"-button to end programs and use MemMaid and have the latest HTC ROM that is not hacked but as-is.

I can have no programs running per the memory settings page and have only 10MB or less after using and closing apps.

So, my question is there a way to maximize the "program" memory(as opposed t "storage" memory) to have at least 20MB or am I stuck with WM6 managing my "program" memory.

I here of those that have 30-50% memory avaiable but HOW?

Do I need to exchange this unit that for any reason before my 1 yr warranty or can this PPC 6800 be improved on the program memory?

As stated before...I have 95MB of Storage free and typically 10MB of program free and need advice since some apps require more program memory and all that free storage is un-tapped.

Thanks again for all the advice.

Re: Noobie needs help with low memory on PPC6800
 

trust me i dont understand it either its like people have magical Moguls or something. I could never get 18-20mb at the end of the day like some here claim not matter how many times i ran memmaid or sktools with nothing else running. Like you, i was lucky to have 12mb or just enough to open my gps software without an out of memory error
Personally i think some people exagurate their free memory to justify their purchase, because there is clearly a problem with low ram on the device and it is a big problem. Ive used plenty of PPCs my since WM2003, and FAR from a newb at it, and the mogul was the most unacceptable of all of them because of the RAM and erroring out due to low memory. Id never use one again even if Sprint paid me to. the touch with 128 of ram is night and day

Re: The Touch is better than the PPC6800???
 

So, are you saying that the Touch uses it's 128MB better than the 256MB on thr PPC6800.

I need a PDA equally as much as a cell phone and thought the PPC69\800 would be the business class device for all my files(Excel, Word, Etc) and apps to runs that I would need/like to have on the device...but if you know the Touch is more capable with many apps and RAM management then maybe I should switch as i really don't need or care for the keyboard anyway.

Please give me some tangible feedback about this comparison of the Touch & PPC6800 with Apps, Ram, Etc.

It sounds like you've had some time to compare/evaluate and I have some time left in my 1st yr of purchase to negotiate if the Touch is a better solution for a business class PDA phone.

Thanks.

Re: Noobie needs help with low memory on PPC6800
 

Will this ROM work okay with my Alltel PPC 6800???

Re: Noobie needs help with low memory on PPC6800
 

Hey bimer guy, the problem is that the mogul doesnt have 256mb of ram, it only comes with 64 mb, the touch has double that but doesnt have a keyboard, wifi, or flash for the camera(which are deal killers for me). there are plenty of mogul vs touch threads on here, just search and you will find plenty rather passionate (if not ridiculous) arguments for and against both devices. As far as I know there is no way to "adjust your storage memory to allow for more program memory. I soft reset every morning and use memmaid and quickmenu to hibernate any running apps and usually have 16 to 18mb by the end of the day.

Re: Noobie needs help with low memory on PPC6800
 

Just to give my 2 cents I think that pbar is better than that x thing

Re: Noobie needs help with low memory on PPC6800
 

yes just make sure you dont let the customizations run or your phone will look like sprints, youre also going to want to change your splash screens but you have to do a search for that

Re: Noobie needs help with low memory on PPC6800
 

Your right I have 256MB ROM for OS and Storage & 64MB RAM...I was thinkg that the WM^ would allocate the ROM storage which I have 90+MB free to allow for running programs.

Could I have a need to load the ROM"storage" with the programs to free the 64MB RAM vs. running from SD Card which loads them in RAM at startup?

Also does the Alltel Touch have the bilt-in GPS as the PPC6800?

I don't use the wi-fi or camera flash much at all but would trade them for more RAM anytime if the Touch was a better performing unit.

Any replies appreciated.

Thanks