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shaun0207 03-19-2008 05:58 PM

TeleNav vs. Other Paid GPS Progrms
 
Ok Guys....clue me in here.......

If TeleNav does the samething Tom Tom, iGuidiance, etc..... and its only $10 a month, isn't that better than the other programs you have to pay $100's for? Not to mention the amount of space on the device that Tom Tom and the others take up.

I have a 4GB and I just ordered a 8GB so I'm not worried about space. However between paying $10 a month for TeleNav and having Google Maps & Windows Live Search installed on your device as well, shouldn't that be a cheaper all around solution?

Thoughts???????

kilmarac 03-19-2008 06:05 PM

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My opinion.....

It depends on how often you want to update your maps. If your updating your maps yearly ($100-150/year) then theres little to no difference in price. ($10 x 12 months = $120). If you update every other year or longer (not recommended) then its cheaper to buy your maps.

However... Heres where I would prefer to have one with the maps on a card.

Telenav (aka Sprint Nav) Mapquest work great if you start your route where you have internet access. It downloads the entire route, and will work as long as you do not deviate from your course, even if you dont have internet access. If you lose connection, and then decide to go "sightseeing" off your route, the navigation software will fail because you dont have a net connection to update the map.

Google / Live - If you lose net connection, your hosed. Program shuts down with an error.

TomTom, Iguidance - since the maps are stored on your card, even if you dont have net access, you will still be able to navigate and renavigate if you deviate.

So... Long and short... your paying about the same either way. The difference is if you want to be able to navigate irregardless of your net connection.

brol1k 03-19-2008 06:07 PM

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actually u can get ulimited telenav,text,music,sprint tv,pic mail,and internet all unlimited for $30 a month. Im with telenav but its more a personal choice,telenav has to have data inorder to load the maps and those other that u mentioned saves the maps into the storage card.

shaun0207 03-19-2008 06:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kilmarac (Post 223630)
My opinion.....

It depends on how often you want to update your maps. If your updating your maps yearly ($100-150/year) then theres little to no difference in price. ($10 x 12 months = $120). If you update every other year or longer (not recommended) then its cheaper to buy your maps.

However... Heres where I would prefer to have one with the maps on a card.

Telenav (aka Sprint Nav) Mapquest work great if you start your route where you have internet access. It downloads the entire route, and will work as long as you do not deviate from your course, even if you dont have internet access. If you lose connection, and then decide to go "sightseeing" off your route, the navigation software will fail because you dont have a net connection to update the map.

Google / Live - If you lose net connection, your hosed. Program shuts down with an error.

TomTom, Iguidance - since the maps are stored on your card, even if you dont have net access, you will still be able to navigate and renavigate if you deviate.

So... Long and short... your paying about the same either way. The difference is if you want to be able to navigate irregardless of your net connection.

Makes alot of sense now. I keep seeing all these threads back and forth about the multiple programs and it makes it hard to make a choice. I would would rather have the maps loaded to the card if the internet connection became a problem during my trip. it just seems like alot of wasted space on your storage card.

elosogrande7076 03-19-2008 06:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brol1k (Post 223632)
actually u can get ulimited telenav,text,music,sprint tv,pic mail,and internet all unlimited for $30 a month. Im with telenav but its more a personal choice,telenav has to have data inorder to load the maps and those other that u mentioned saves the maps into the storage card.

And how does one do that?? Please do tell...
________
Cheap glass pipes

Wes Janson 03-19-2008 07:29 PM

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First off, if you're currently on the $15 unlimited Vision plan, TeleNav (if it's the only extra thing you want) is actually only $5 a month extra.

Kilmarac pretty much nailed the "catch" with TeleNav. It's a great program that automatically re-routes you around traffic congestion (at no extra subscription fee, I might add), gives you turn-by-turn indications with spoken street names, and the maps are server-side and are updated pretty frequently. But the catch is although you have the convenience of not needing a 2GB card to hold your maps, TeleNav needs initial access to a data plan in order to "log-in" and download your route. If you have no service, you can't boot it up. So it's not the ideal partner if you frequently travel across the boonies.

I've also had an asional log-in error issue, where it couldn't verify my account for some reason. It's rare, but it does happen.

But all in all, it really does depend on your traveling habits. I spend most of my time traveling in areas with service, so TeleNav is a no-brainer for me. I don't drive boats, and I don't chase tornadoes in the middle of nowhere. So I don't need on-phone maps.

I also remember reading some of you gluing your faces to your phones on plane rides so you can see where you are using TomTom... Though some planes having the option to show you a GPS map on the back of the seat in front of you notwithstanding... I'd rather spend my time (and storage) watching full-length movies and listening to music on my Mogul rather than staring at a little moving dot. But yeah, that's just me. Lol!

chong67 03-19-2008 10:04 PM

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If you get the software, then you can use your GPS oversea.

Yay 4 Juggs 03-19-2008 10:11 PM

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i just picked up the garmin mobile xt for my mogul...99 bux gives you unlim updates poi...traffic...weather...etc...havent taken it on the road yet but from playing with it here in the house seems to out perform my standalone gps device in the truck...the best part...you only load the maps you want or need...say you're pretty much in the wny area...you're not gonna load a map for carlsbad are you? no...so you just use the mapping tool to select the area you want and whammy it even loads rte info for you...currently i have all of wny southern ontario erie pa and northe east ohio loaded and the file size that it packs for me on my storage card...82mb...i have a 4 gig card with plenty of space so ill never have to worry as bigger cards get cheaper and cheaper

cwing 03-19-2008 10:11 PM

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Is there a way to have TELENAV speak directions throught your bT headset ?

indagroove 03-19-2008 11:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cwing (Post 223825)
Is there a way to have TELENAV speak directions throught your bT headset ?


Yes with abcBTtoggle

diego_starr 03-19-2008 11:26 PM

Re: TeleNav vs. Other Paid GPS Progrms
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by indagroove (Post 223894)
Yes with abcBTtoggle

Indagroove, can you explain what this program does? I tried googling it, but couldn't find anything.

Yay 4 Juggs 03-19-2008 11:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diego_starr (Post 223904)
Indagroove, can you explain what this program does? I tried googling it, but couldn't find anything.

BASICALLY ITS AUDIO ROUTING FOR BT...ALLOWS FOR SOUND TO BE PUSHED FROM APPS TO THE HEADSET...

JimSmith94 03-20-2008 12:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diego_starr (Post 223904)
Indagroove, can you explain what this program does? I tried googling it, but couldn't find anything.

That's because the actual name of the app is acbToggleBT. ;)

diego_starr 03-20-2008 12:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JimSmith94 (Post 223965)
That's because the actual name of the app is acbToggleBT. ;)

Found it. Thanks Jim!

lawilson2 03-20-2008 02:08 AM

Re: TeleNav vs. Other Paid GPS Progrms
 
Question: One thing I find a bit irritating with Telenav is that it doesn't have a built in option to search contacts to quickly input your destination like Live Search does. I was a bit surprised because it's something that integrated with the Sprint device. Am I overlooking this feature or am I right to say that it isn't available?

shaun0207 03-20-2008 09:29 AM

Re: TeleNav vs. Other Paid GPS Progrms
 
The space is not a problem, but with Tom Tom you have to have all these maps and if I'm only using it locally (Baltimore-Washington area), I dont need all those maps.

brol1k 03-24-2008 05:56 AM

Re: TeleNav vs. Other Paid GPS Progrms
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by elosogrande7076 (Post 223640)
And how does one do that?? Please do tell...

SIMPLE CALL SPRINT, N TELL THEM U WANT TO UPGRADE TO THE VISION ULTIMATE PACK WHIC IS 30 A MONTH AND EVERYTHING IS UNLIMITED...I MEAN EVERYTHING

Stevenewjersey 03-24-2008 07:15 AM

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Look not only is Telenave/sprintnav a fully featured, fast dependable gps service if there ever was one it also acts as a directory service that saves you money. IMO the storage problem that other programs present and the lack of a current up to date directory service built in makes telenav the best all around choice. The money I save using telenav for my 411 services alone pays for it.

mecreyes 03-24-2008 09:08 AM

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I use iGo 2006 plus. I find the interface, POI and the ability to use it out of your service area as the prime reasons for having installed nav software.
I live in Canada, and with our HUGE country and TINY population, there are large areas that are not serviced digitally. What if there is a power outage? Cell towers are affected by that.
I'm told that iGo is best for Europe, but I find that the maps for North America are extremely detailed street-wise and POI-wise.
If you are worried about space you only need to install the maps you need. All of Canada is roughly 112mb. In the US, its broken down by state which vary depending on the level of inhabited/developed area. I think New York state runs roughly 50mb.
My career revolves around geography/GIS/GPS and decision support. While the Mogul GPS is nowhere close to a Trimble per se, it is a damn good general purpose alternative. I also use ArcPAD 7.1 and find that I have less to carry in the field.
The costs seem to be equal in the US, but the option of being self reliant is much more appealing.

davidgelb 03-24-2008 07:08 PM

Re: TeleNav vs. Other Paid GPS Progrms
 
Hey Yay 4 Juggs....

Have you been happy with Garmin so far? I am a Garmin fan personally...use their standalone units. I tried their mobile on a friends phone and it seemed to be lacking a lot of POIs - places that have been there for a while don't show, etc.

How often do they update POIs and maps? Where do you download the updates?

Any info you have would be appreciated!

Thanks,
-David

kilmarac 03-29-2008 02:03 AM

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I have to say that for a while I was very concerned about using Telenav. I dont like paying for things monthly when I can buy them outright. However, my own explanation above actually helped me to solve that dilema. Thinking about how to answer the question helped me bring the numbers into perspective. Now my only problem is the worry about a lack of net connection. However, I figure with the exception of my return drive across country back to the East Coast I will rarely have that problem, and when I do. I just pull out a good old fashioned mapbook.

Incidently, Garmin Mobile is available in the Sprint Application lounge for 9.99/mo now as well. Im trying to figure out if the 9.99 is a generic charge from sprint for "Navigation Capability" or if its tied to a specific program. Id like to try and compare the two.

markppc6700 03-29-2008 03:59 AM

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i had telenav and like others said before you cannot stray from the route. I now have igidance and i love it i can select street only directions, diffent views and it doesnt use that much memory..i only loaded california, new york and vegas

JimSmith94 03-29-2008 10:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kilmarac (Post 233985)
Incidently, Garmin Mobile is available in the Sprint Application lounge for 9.99/mo now as well. Im trying to figure out if the 9.99 is a generic charge from sprint for "Navigation Capability" or if its tied to a specific program. Id like to try and compare the two.

Do you have a link for Garmin on Sprint? I just searched the Digital Lounge and didn't see it.

hollywood0911 03-29-2008 10:34 AM

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I am sorta new to this and probably don't have as much experience as a lot of people here. I just wanted to add that as I use the SpnintNav on my Mogul, it DOES pick a new route if I vary. Also, losing the signal is an issue with the turn by turn directions, however, you still have the written directions stored in your route which you can refer to until you pick up service again. As far as being able to search for businesses and POI with SprintNav, it has worked exeptionally for me. I may seem partial to the Sprintnav and it is because I made a deal with sprint. I would only re-sign a contract if they gave me the unlimited vision services on all three of my phones for $25 a month. Also, i would just like to say THANKS to everyone for sharing their problems, solutions, programs and insights!!

luckyscrn 03-29-2008 10:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by davidgelb (Post 228749)
Hey Yay 4 Juggs....

Have you been happy with Garmin so far? I am a Garmin fan personally...use their standalone units. I tried their mobile on a friends phone and it seemed to be lacking a lot of POIs - places that have been there for a while don't show, etc.

How often do they update POIs and maps? Where do you download the updates?

Any info you have would be appreciated!

Thanks,
-David

Check this thread out. It has the links to add as many POI's that you want to Garmin XT. http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=22298

hckymeyer 03-29-2008 11:42 AM

Re: TeleNav vs. Other Paid GPS Progrms
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by indagroove (Post 223894)
Yes with abcBTtoggle



I've been using Telenav with my past 2 phones and now with the Mogul. You don't need any special programs to hear the audio through BT. The Mogul will do it automatically if your BT is paired with the phone.

Overall I've been very happy with Telenav. Granted there have been a few times I've had login errors or it won't connect very fast in a poor signal area, but it has been a life saver on many occasions. I think it is the easiest program to get up-to-date maps and POI's.

The biggest negative for me is battery life. Running around a major city for a few hours will really drain the battery, so some sort of car cradle with charging is a must.

webparrot 03-29-2008 11:57 AM

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I've had TeleNav for about a year now. I got it on my old Moto phone. When I got the Touch I had to do a little research to find the software from TeleNav (and get a gps receiver). TeleNav with Live search works great for me. I do a lot of driving every day and use it mostly for traffic conditions.

On my old phone the voice directions worked on my bluetooth. With the Touch it does not. Maybe because the receiver is connected via bluetooth. I'm hoping this will be fixed when sprint updates the phone software.

When I first got TeleNav a sprint friend told me to go to the sprint televav website and ask for a demo account.
I signed up for a demo account using my work email address and have never had to pay for the service. As of right now my TeleNav account is active until next year when my Sero plan is over. Don't know if it will work for everyone but you can try.

mr.squonk 03-29-2008 11:59 AM

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I have been playing with iGo for the last few days, and compared to Tom Tom, and some of the others, I love it! If you have any questions about it, message me.

andy22 03-29-2008 01:37 PM

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I have iGuidance 4.0 and how do I load only certain maps? I have a folder with maps but no real specifics in the names and there is one file that is the majority of the space.

mr.squonk 03-29-2008 01:53 PM

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Sorry brother, all of the maps and data are combined into just a handful of files. Another reason I like igo, the maps are specific.

kilmarac 03-29-2008 03:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JimSmith94 (Post 234133)
Do you have a link for Garmin on Sprint? I just searched the Digital Lounge and didn't see it.

This goes to the page with all their nav products

https://manage.sprintpcs.com/Manage/...502LJD0B032IA4

This one is for Garmin Mobile
https://manage.sprintpcs.com/Manage/...502LJD0B032IA4

andy22 03-29-2008 03:38 PM

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is that live search different than the one I got from Microsoft itself?

JimSmith94 03-29-2008 04:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kilmarac (Post 234349)
This goes to the page with all their nav products

https://manage.sprintpcs.com/Manage/portal/!ut/p/c1/04_SB8K8xLLM9MSSzPy8xBz9CP0os3hPZ3fHQE8TIwMLY29TAy MfLxcDJwNjI09PQ_1wkA6zeAMcwNFA388jPzdVvyA7rxwAdJ9A wA!!/dl2/d1/L0lDU0lKSWdrbUNTUS9JUFJBQUlpQ2dBek15cXpHWUEhIS9ZQk pKMU5BMU5JNTAtNUY4OXchIS83X0lDR0FRSTQyMDgzSzUwMkxK RDBCMDMySUE0L0lfX19fMS9zYS5zcGZfQWN0aW9uTGlzdGVuZX I!/?PC_7_ICGAQI42083K502LJD0B032IA4_spf_strutsAction= !2fselectFolder.do!3ffolderId%3dFLD104886#7_ICGAQI 42083K502LJD0B032IA4

This one is for Garmin Mobile
https://manage.sprintpcs.com/Manage/portal/!ut/p/c1/04_SB8K8xLLM9MSSzPy8xBz9CP0os3hPZ3fHQE8TIwMLY29TAy MfLxcDJwNjI09PQ_1wkA6zeAMcwNFA388jPzdVP1I_yhynOY4m-pE5qemJyZX6Bdl55fmOiooAei8iqA!!/dl2/d1/L0lJSklna21DU1EhIS9JRGpBQU15QUJFUkNKRXFnL1lGTkExTk k1MC01Rjg5dyEvN19JQ0dBUUk0MjA4M0s1MDJMSkQwQjAzMklB NC85a19fXzIwL3NhLnNwZl9BY3Rpb25MaXN0ZW5lcg!!/?PC_7_ICGAQI42083K502LJD0B032IA4_spf_strutsAction= !2fselectProduct.do!3fproductId%3dPCS561291#7_ICGA QI42083K502LJD0B032IA4

Cool, thanks! I don't know why I couldn't find it. ](*,)

Phreddo 03-31-2008 12:59 AM

Re: TeleNav vs. Other Paid GPS Progrms
 
i miss mapopolis

i like the idea of turn-by-turn directions, but i prefer using the GPS as a moving map, in case i have to reroute on the fly.
So far, Live Search has worked very well for me for free.
The reason i can't justify telenav is that I got power vision for $10/mo.

of all the GPS programs, like Garmin Mobile XT, which of those are available via download?
i have an 8 GB card, and i like to use my Mogul for tunes and stuff as well

syphy 04-01-2008 09:10 PM

Re: TeleNav vs. Other Paid GPS Progrms
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mecreyes (Post 228084)
I also use ArcPAD 7.1 and find that I have less to carry in the field.
The costs seem to be equal in the US, but the option of being self reliant is much more appealing.

Mecreyes, are you using ArcPad on the Sprint Mogul with the new EV-DO Rev. A upgrade that enables GPS? If so, does it work well? I'm looking into buying a smartphone on the sprint network and the Mogul suits my needs the best out of their smartphones... However, I need a phone that runs ArcPad well... so, if the Mogul does not, I need to look into getting something else. Please let me know, thanks.

Phreddo 04-02-2008 12:43 AM

Re: TeleNav vs. Other Paid GPS Progrms
 
Did i mention that you can get Mapquest working on the mogul?

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=22831

limited time offer of a 30 day no-hassle trial.
make sure you download the "tilt" cab from the OTA site, as that one will use the internal GPS.
use the AstroGPSLauncher from XDA for extra ease of use.

Oh, and for now it's like $50/year
and it has night mode!

mecreyes 04-03-2008 09:40 AM

Re: TeleNav vs. Other Paid GPS Progrms
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by syphy (Post 237785)
Mecreyes, are you using ArcPad on the Sprint Mogul with the new EV-DO Rev. A upgrade that enables GPS? If so, does it work well? I'm looking into buying a smartphone on the sprint network and the Mogul suits my needs the best out of their smartphones... However, I need a phone that runs ArcPad well... so, if the Mogul does not, I need to look into getting something else. Please let me know, thanks.

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