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lillocog 02-13-2008 10:13 PM

?? 2 question bout activating my NEW MOGUL. (need sprint rep) ??
 
alright i need some help. my screen on my old mogul broke so i called the insurance company and said i lost it. they sent me a new one today but i havent activated it. i never called sprint or anything to let them know whats up. so my questions are:

1. should i call sprint and just tell them i am switching phones and need to activate the new one (will i be charged for the activation?) or just go ahead and tell them i am activating a new phone from the insurance cause i lost my other one? ((( i just dont want to have to end up paying for the phone later on if i was to get caught))).

2. does the old mogul's esn become marked as stolen or lost at sprint? because i can get the screen fixed and sell it on ebay.



basically i want to know if i can make it seem to sprint that i am just switching fones so that i can sell the old one since i still have it. ( it just has a broken screen).

THANKS FOR ANY HELP

mikldom 02-13-2008 10:42 PM

You have an ethical dilemna!!!
 
You should have just told the insurance company you had a cracked screen, and not told them you lost it..

YES, they do put that ESN in a database, and you will never be able to activate that phone on the networks, UNLESS you figure out how to clone an ESN.. it has been documented.

You did not break a law, per se, as the insurance is meant to replace a broken phone, but your ethical issue is that you are asking about fixing it and then selling it, as you reported it to the insurance as lost...

good luck

mofotrucker 02-13-2008 10:53 PM

no u dont have to called sprint just log on to sprint.com and change it through there website :) and yes it blacklisted as lost and you cant sell it which is wrong:angry7:

mcmichak 02-13-2008 10:54 PM

Dumb@$$
 
So, what, you just felt like admitting to whoever reads this that you committed insurance fraud and then want us help you with it? I have some Fed friends that would love to hear about this

JoeBobOneHalf 02-13-2008 10:59 PM

You could sell it, but only ethical way is to say the esn is no good. If you fix the screen and flash it to a gps rom, you could sell it as a gps enabled internet tablet (if I'm saying that right)

afx 02-13-2008 11:07 PM

From what I know because I have actually done insurance replacements is you have to send the phone back else they will charge you for it in 30 days and since the insurance company is connected with sprint.

lillocog 02-13-2008 11:23 PM

well thank you all for your help. but before you all go grillin me for being unethical, i guess none of you have ever been screwed over by your cell phone companys huh? now think about that. also what was the insurance company gonna do if i told them my screen was cracked. oh sure we'll send you a phone for 50 bucks, just go ahead and send us your messed up one so we can refurbish it and resell it. and i guess you're all super ethical. man grow up and stop living in lala land and welcome to the real world.

halcyoncmdr 02-14-2008 12:36 AM

IF you just had a broken screen and you were paying the $7 Total Equipment Protection insurance you would have been better off going to a repair store, it would have been a free repair or replacement phone. As it is, you probably already got a refurb phone form the insurance company and paid a $50 deductible.

If you were only paying the $4 for the Equipment Replacement Program, then this would still have been more expensive. Without insurance, a repair cost for a broken screen, or an ordered replacement through the store is only like $35 at a repair store. Either way, you paid more than you really needed to and you probably aren't going to be able to sell the old one.

The ESN of the phone will be in hte database as a lost/stolen phone, if it comes up during an activation, it won't be able to be activated.

bakntyme 02-14-2008 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by lillocog (Post 186088)
well thank you all for your help. but before you all go grillin me for being unethical, i guess none of you have ever been screwed over by your cell phone companys huh? now think about that. also what was the insurance company gonna do if i told them my screen was cracked. oh sure we'll send you a phone for 50 bucks, just go ahead and send us your messed up one so we can refurbish it and resell it. and i guess you're all super ethical. man grow up and stop living in lala land and welcome to the real world.

I guess most of us do not want to live in your version of the "real world", where it is OK to commit a felony because you think you were overcharged by your cell phone carrier. Go ahead and sell the phone; there is a good chance that someone down the line will attempt to activate it; then, since the ESN is easily traceable to you, you might get to "grow up" in the "real world" of prison.

jeryzkid22 02-20-2008 04:50 AM

Re: ?? 2 question bout activating my NEW MOGUL. (need sprint rep) ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by halcyoncmdr (Post 186161)
IF you just had a broken screen and you were paying the $7 Total Equipment Protection insurance you would have been better off going to a repair store, it would have been a free repair or replacement phone. As it is, you probably already got a refurb phone form the insurance company and paid a $50 deductible.

If you were only paying the $4 for the Equipment Replacement Program, then this would still have been more expensive. Without insurance, a repair cost for a broken screen, or an ordered replacement through the store is only like $35 at a repair store. Either way, you paid more than you really needed to and you probably aren't going to be able to sell the old one.

The ESN of the phone will be in hte database as a lost/stolen phone, if it comes up during an activation, it won't be able to be activated.

He definitely should have gone to the store. If you had TEP then it would have been a free exchange. If you didn't though it would have been a $55 plus tax charge though since a broken LCD or anything to do with casing for a phone is the max charge in the store.

TeamMike 02-20-2008 05:33 AM

Re: ?? 2 question bout activating my NEW MOGUL. (need sprint rep) ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeBobOneHalf (Post 186060)
You could sell it, but only ethical way is to say the esn is no good. If you fix the screen and flash it to a gps rom, you could sell it as a gps enabled internet tablet (if I'm saying that right)


.... are you serious?.... is it that serious that you would use your time to call your "fed" friends, so that they would use their time to track someone down who wants to sell an extra phone they have? get real, i doubt they would "love to hear about this". are you trying to scare him? or just sound cool? and which department would you chose from your "fed" friends? FBI? DOD? im sure the CIA would be intrested....lol if you dont wanna help him then just dont say anything.

on another note, you know, the companies say that you wont be able to activate a lost or stolen phone, buuuuut, i dont know... has anybody ever actually tried to activate a "lost" phone. cause im pretty sure i know some people who sold their "lost" phone to others. but im not 100% sure.

ALSO! about refurbished phones, i really did lose my mogul last week and i got a refurbished one from the insurance company,... and it doesnt work. im sending that one back and they're sending me another one. i wish i had my original one cause that was brand new; you never know what the previous owner did to their phone.

akastixx 02-20-2008 11:00 AM

Re: ?? 2 question bout activating my NEW MOGUL. (need sprint rep) ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamMike (Post 187559)
has anybody ever actually tried to activate a "lost" phone. cause im pretty sure i know some people who sold their "lost" phone to others. but im not 100% sure.

you cannot activate a lost phone or a phone that was on the account of someone with an outstanding balance.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lillocog (Post 186088)
well thank you all for your help. but before you all go grillin me for being unethical, i guess none of you have ever been screwed over by your cell phone companys huh?

you were unethical. two wrongs don't make a right. at the same time, stop trying to justify it. you did what you intended to do, get a phone and screw "the man". who am i to judge? :-)

halcyoncmdr 02-20-2008 12:01 PM

Re: ?? 2 question bout activating my NEW MOGUL. (need sprint rep) ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamMike (Post 187559)
on another note, you know, the companies say that you wont be able to activate a lost or stolen phone, buuuuut, i dont know... has anybody ever actually tried to activate a "lost" phone. cause im pretty sure i know some people who sold their "lost" phone to others. but im not 100% sure.

When you try and activate a lost/stolen phone the system shows the phone as flagged as long as the person mentioned that the phone was lost/stolen and they didn't just upgrade or something. I have customers who come in and say that they lost their phone but just want to use their upgrade eligibility. I always have the phone flagged first, then do the upgrade for them. No reason a stolen phone should beable to easily be used later on. And if the phone gets returned later on, then it can be unflagged at that time.


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