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Diffs between Tilt and Mogul/6800
AT&T just moved into my area a couple of weeks ago, taking over CellOne. They have the Tilt. My wireless provider, a local company, will not have the PPC6800 until March. Mostly I'm holding out for the EVDO speeds, but it seems like both phones are pretty close, besides the obvious tilting. What am I missing? If any of you guys prefer the Mogul over the Tilt, why?
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Besides EVDO Rev. A, the Tilt is equal or better in almost every way. It's a little bulkier, but has twice as much RAM (128MB instead of 64MB), which makes a huge difference in performance. And a much better camera phone. And the Tilt's internal GPS has been active/working since its relese.
What makes the Mogul more appealing than the Tilt, is Sprint's SERO plan, EVDO coverage, and the slightly more compact size of the Mogul. |
I agree.
For me it was a Cheap data plan & Rev. A so I went for the Mogul. However 128MB RAM is awesome & so is the 3.0MP camera of the Tilt. What I don't like about the mogul is the mundane 64MB of RAM (For the love of air, WHY not 128MB?!) What I don't like about the Tilt is AT&T (They are evil when it comes to PPCs, EVIL!*) Thats where my Pro/Con ends... I hope it helps. *=You were warned. (Google some facts about it.) |
The tilt is heavier too.
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The Tilt is the best PPC phone out there. Unfortunately, it's on AT&T's craptastic network. A graet phone on a crappy network is useless.
The only major deficiency of the Titan is the 64MB of RAM. Other then that, its the best either Sprint or Verizon have to offer. |
I dont run too many things at the same time on my Titan/Mogul so the shortness of RAM doesnt bother me. With GPS capability now I think It is a much better choice if I had to choose. For one it is lighter. Slightly thinner. Comes with Flash for night shots (although I rarely use the camera) and flash can be used as a flashlight with the right software installed (I use this quite a lot). I also like that it has additional outside button I can pre configure for easy app launching. Screen is centered (my preference). Really the only thing lacking is the memory and the camera. But again I dont run a lot at once and rarely use the camera.
Oh and lets not forget as someone already mentioned, Sprint offers cheaper data and voice plan. |
Sprint SERO and size of mogul did it for me!!!!!!!!
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I'd also agree, over time, with ATT data and voice rates, it makes the TILT much more expensive! |
ive had the 6800, Tytn, and now i have the Tilt.
the tilt is the best one yet. why? -the colors on the numeric keypads. -the SIM card location is convenient (not behind the battery) -the SD card slot has a cover now so your SD card cant shoot out without you knowing it (not that its ever happened but you know it could) -the stylus on this thing is awesome, best stylus ive ever owned. its long and sharp. -the phone looks pimp -the tilt feature is very usefull -camera is much better than 6800 and Tytn -128mb of ram -internal GPS working out of the box -it tells you exactly how much battery you have left (ex:73% left) but the mogul only displays 90%,80%,70%, etc. -when exploring the /Windows folder, it doesnt take 6 seconds to load, it only takes half the time now. -smaller but a tiny bit heavier than the tytn -phone turns on when you slide it to landscape mode instead of having to slide open and press power |
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Thanks for all the responses so far everyone.
I have had a few seconds here and there of temptation to just run out and buy the Tilt, but I've been lurking here since November and have seen the overwhelmingly negative opinion of ATT. One reason I want the Mogul is to use the flashlight app, that seems very useful. The Unlimited data package here on the EVDO network is $40/month, no catches. Also, it seems like the Community support here at ppc is much stronger for the Mogul than the Tilt. -Michael |
The flashlight app is a funny reason to pick the Mogul over the Tilt but hey, whatever makes you happy.. :)
I don't think anyone would argue that the Tilt isn't a great phone. If it was available on Sprint, me and alot of others would be tempted. But it's on ATT network and that puts alot of people off (Cost, and depending on where you are - speed). Quote:
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I love the flashlight app. The more devices rolled into one, the better. I consider my phone a phone/pda/bad camera/gps/flashlight. I used to carry around a led flashlight in my pocket and hope for a blackout. Is there something wrong with me?. =D
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I have both the tilt and mogul and love both. The tilt is awesome with the extra ram. If you regedit tilt you can get the hsdpa which of course depending on location, can be fast as hell to compete with evdo rev a. but yah att definately pricey but they only carrier that has hsdpa on gsm that I've seen
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In a nutshell, the tilt IS a better device. What bottlenecks it is At&ts network. If you live in an area where HSDPA is enabled, then you will get very very fast speeds, actually about as fast as evdo rev.a. What deters people from the tilt is At&ts data prices, (COMPLETE rip-offs) and there voice rates suck as well, and also limited high speed coverage..
As said before the reason the mogul is so popular is because Sprint has the largest high speed data network in the US, and there voice and data prices are ridiculously cheap. Even though its short on operating RAM, its hands down the best Full Qwerty pocket pc for cdma networks. Its the closest thing you can get to the tilt, with awesome data speeds and prices, and on top of that, the titan is the most discussed phone out, next to the iphone, so we have a HUGE HUGE pool of hackers and tweakers to help us get the most out of out moguls!!! |
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AMEN TO THAT BROTHER I LOVE THE MOGUL EVEN THO I HAVE A HTC ADVANTAGE THAT I LOVE AS WELL BUT BEING THAT IT NOT SPRINT NETWORK I PLAY WITH IS LESS AND REV.A MADE A WHOLE WORLD OF A DIFFERNCE IN SPEEDS I DIDNT REALLY LIKE THE TILT MUCH NOW IF THEY ONLT MADE A REMOGUL WITH MORE RAM AND A FASTER CPU AND LARGER SCREEN I WOULD GO WITH 3.5 INCH INSTEAD OF 2.8 AND STILL KEEP IT ON THE SLIM MODEL THEN WE TALKING IT WOULD BE A KILLER:mrgreen: |
I'm just gonna sound like a broken record but despite the few improvements in the Tilt (RAM, etc.), the thing is slow due to driver issues (tried them both out side by side) and at least when it is Sprint vs. ATT, you are talking about a $15/month versus $45/month unlimited data package. Not to mention the slower speed on ATT's network.
Besides, AT&T are the ones who do nice things like work with the RIAA and are trying to get immunity in congress from legal actions regarding their spying on Americans data traffic for the NSA. Call me a hippie but I choose not to give my money to those who would get involved in that sort of stuff. The worst you'll hear about Sprint is that their phone customer service reps suck ;) |
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and the evdo on my mogul is well worth the keeping, add that in with tethering and im good to go, i cant wait to use my gps too! |
and i love the moguls titan!! are you smoking or something?
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i thought this was more of a Tilt vs. Mogul debate, not a AT&T vs. Sprint debate.
i just bought me an unlocked Tilt and i use it with Rogers. but from what i hear, Sprint has the best data plans for sure. Tilt owns the Mogul and 6800 (ive had all 3 so im not biased) Sprint owns every other company in data plans |
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What good is a good PPC phone without a good data plan .. that is affordable. |
I only pay 20 dollars for unlimited data on ATT. Besides i've had Sprint and their voice and customer service sucked. By the way, I 'd get the Kaiser. It's not bloated with the ATT junk. It's the same phone from HTC.
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Phones are only as good/bad as the user needs them to be, so it all depends.
-Do you need a hardware keyboard? Then the Touch isn't an option. -Do you require more ram in your phone than the Mogul has due to the apps you run/etc? Then the Mogul probably isn't for you. -Do you really like and use the TouchFlo interface? Then you will like the touch. -Do you really want OZ IM? Then the touch is for you. Just a ton of subjective questions you have to ask yourself. Most other people's opinions won't really apply to you unless they have the same needs/uses. |
Tilt, not Touch. But I get what you're saying. :)
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