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lysolflow 01-20-2008 08:13 PM

Upping MOGUL memory !?!
 
i bought my mogul in september, and it came with 47 mb of program memory, and about half of it was being used before i even did anything...

for christmas, i bought my brother a Touch, and his had twice as much program memory as i did... and his phone as much, much faster... i was extra pissed cuz i try to use my phone to the fullest extent... using word and excel and the internet... and if i had any memory close to his, i'd be chillin...

i've downloaded the registry performance tweaks and all that to make my phone go faster... but there's no way that 47 mb will do the job like 110 mb... is there any way that this program memory can be boosted up... or will it remain like this forever... and if i happen to get another mogul a year from now, will it have the same program memory?...:scratch:

and another thing... everybody is so excited about this new upgrade... gps and rev a sounds nice, but i dont really hear people too excited about sprint tv... or gettin a im program that aint downloaded from some weak ass site... i've used palringo, octrotalk, sling, and all that otha stuff... but it aint no adequate substitute for the OZ client that everybody else gets...

people tend to say that the mogul is "the most powerful phone and sprint didn't put enough on it and they got it right wit the touch"... how is it so "powerful" if it has insufficient memory and cant do anything that people want it to do...

MY DREAM PHONE IS ALL THE PHONE THAT "IS" THE TOUCH WIT A REAL KEYBOARD UNDER IT...

dwizzy130 01-20-2008 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lysolflow (Post 164697)
i bought my mogul in september, and it came with 47 mb of program memory, and about half of it was being used before i even did anything...

for christmas, i bought my brother a Touch, and his had twice as much program memory as i did... and his phone as much, much faster... i was extra pissed cuz i try to use my phone to the fullest extent... using word and excel and the internet... and if i had any memory close to his, i'd be chillin...

i've downloaded the registry performance tweaks and all that to make my phone go faster... but there's no way that 47 mb will do the job like 110 mb... is there any way that this program memory can be boosted up... or will it remain like this forever... and if i happen to get another mogul a year from now, will it have the same program memory?...:scratch:

and another thing... everybody is so excited about this new upgrade... gps and rev a sounds nice, but i dont really hear people too excited about sprint tv... or gettin a im program that aint downloaded from some weak ass site... i've used palringo, octrotalk, sling, and all that otha stuff... but it aint no adequate substitute for the OZ client that everybody else gets...

people tend to say that the mogul is "the most powerful phone and sprint didn't put enough on it and they got it right wit the touch"... how is it so "powerful" if it has insufficient memory and cant do anything that people want it to do...

MY DREAM PHONE IS ALL THE PHONE THAT "IS" THE TOUCH WIT A REAL KEYBOARD UNDER IT...

no the program memory cannot be upgraded, or atleast noone has figured out how....im pretty sure this new update will not include sprint tv....ur dream phone sounds alot like the touch dual.

papped 01-20-2008 08:52 PM

Considering how low on the support end of the stick the Mogul appears to be right now, I wouldn't hold your breath even if it is possible.

It wouldn't be cost effective or popular enough so I would be surprised if anyone even tried to take this up.

lysolflow 01-20-2008 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwizzy130 (Post 164702)
no the program memory cannot be upgraded, or atleast noone has figured out how....im pretty sure this new update will not include sprint tv....ur dream phone sounds alot like the touch dual.


what is a touch dual?

dwizzy130 01-20-2008 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lysolflow (Post 164724)
what is a touch dual?

its the touch but it has a slide out keyboard on it..google it.

lysolflow 01-20-2008 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwizzy130 (Post 164727)
its the touch but it has a slide out qwerty keyboard on it..google it.

man... that phone looks extra weak... i want a FULL qwerty keypad... not some shit wit two letters per button... and i'm wit sprint... you know what i need...

A SPRINT VOYAGER!!!

jbbosu 01-20-2008 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lysolflow (Post 164739)
man... that phone looks extra weak... i want a FULL qwerty keypad... not some shit wit two letters per button... and i'm wit sprint... you know what i need...

A SPRINT VOYAGER!!!

I don't think the voyager is WM6 or anything like that tho...

xweaponx 01-20-2008 10:01 PM

The Voyager is a multimedia phone and is in no way equipped to handle the functions/applications of even the weakest Mogul...the Voyager is not even a smartphone.

All of us Mogul/P4000/PPC6800/XV6800 users are in the same boat; ram is un-upgradeable and future revisions/updates to further utilize the currently installed ram to better efficiency is slim-to-none.

With this in mind you have (3) options:

1. Install a application with true-close functions for programs and minimize the number of apps running at one time...
2. Make a LATERAL (IMO) move to the HTC Touch or Dual...
3. Downgrade a bit to a multimedia device like the Voyager, etc...

Here is a link to a thread that has alot of imformation and commentary pertaining to 6800 ram...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350002

papped 01-20-2008 10:59 PM

Another option is to find apps that use less memory in general.

There are better options than things like WMPlayer.

xweaponx 01-20-2008 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papped (Post 164770)
Another option is to find apps that use less memory in general.

There are better options than things like WMPlayer.

Alternatives to WMP are MortPlayer and HTC Audio Manager. I have all (3) and use each one for different things but HTC AM uses less memory than all three.

chantelle82 01-21-2008 12:02 AM

This Whole Thread Had Me Rollin....sayin How The Phone Looked Extra Weak!!!! Lol ...but This Is Dumb Question Have U After Installed The Programs Save The Cab To Your Memory Card And Not Keep The Cab On The Phone.....

lysolflow 01-21-2008 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chantelle82 (Post 164800)
This Whole Thread Had Me Rollin....sayin How The Phone Looked Extra Weak!!!! Lol ...but This Is Dumb Question Have U After Installed The Programs Save The Cab To Your Memory Card And Not Keep The Cab On The Phone.....

how is it a dumb question when i got other people who are replyin to it... everybody got a simple response, but yo ugly ass (lookin at that avatar) had to come wit some smart response... be easy, fall back, or do both, lil lady...

Success100 01-21-2008 12:43 AM

whats the point of insulting eachother, and she is a lady, have some respect.

Plus she wasnt saying that you question wuz dumb, she said this maybe a dumb question, but have you erased the cabs, because they take up excess space. READ

willysp 01-21-2008 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwizzy130 (Post 164727)
its the touch but it has a slide out qwerty keyboard on it..google it.

Keyboard isn't qwerty.

lysolflow 01-21-2008 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Success100 (Post 164820)
whats the point of insulting eachother, and she is a lady, have some respect.

Plus she wasnt saying that you question wuz dumb, she said this maybe a dumb question, but have you erased the cabs, because they take up excess space. READ

oh... ma bad... she aint ugly then... she straight... HEY LADY... U STRAIGHT...

but to this asshole... thanks for the stern talkin-to... now i'm more respectful than Beaver Cleaver...

"Jee golly, Wally... i hope this guy doesn't pop thru my computer and thrash me..." lol...

Lecithin 01-21-2008 09:41 AM

there is an ongoing thread about the upgradability of the ram/rom on the 6800 over on xda in the upgrade section, haven't checked it yet today, but it does sound like there may be a chance that the chip thats in the touch may be close enough of a fit to swap out (the chip itself can be bought from the manufacturer). a big chance though that whatever process you'd have to go through to do it would completely trash the phone

themuffinman 01-21-2008 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Success100 (Post 164820)
whats the point of insulting eachother, and she is a lady, have some respect.

Plus she wasnt saying that you question wuz dumb, she said this maybe a dumb question, but have you erased the cabs, because they take up excess space. READ

LOL, thats pretty funny that you had to point that out to lysolflow, reminds me of one of those "need a moment.....grab a snikers" commercials. Anyway whats the point, even if someone figures out a way to increase usable ram, is it going to be worth the headache and the possibility of bricking the phone just to get it to be marginally faster? Honeslty though, it does suck that we have to manage the memory as much as we do but the mogul gets the job done, if it didn't we wouldn't be using moguls at all. So relax and wait for the next big thing to come out.

MobileHackerC 01-21-2008 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xweaponx (Post 164748)
The Voyager is a multimedia phone and is in no way equipped to handle the functions/applications of even the weakest Mogul...the Voyager is not even a smartphone.

All of us Mogul/P4000/PPC6800/XV6800 users are in the same boat; ram is un-upgradeable and future revisions/updates to further utilize the currently installed ram to better efficiency is slim-to-none.

With this in mind you have (3) options:

1. Install a application with true-close functions for programs and minimize the number of apps running at one time...
2. Make a LATERAL (IMO) move to the HTC Touch or Dual...
3. Downgrade a bit to a multimedia device like the Voyager, etc...

Here is a link to a thread that has alot of imformation and commentary pertaining to 6800 ram...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350002

Is The voyager a Verizon product? or can it work on Sprint? Is the Touch Dual also Sprint? Thanks

riironman 01-21-2008 11:08 AM

chantelle is a hottie..and has brains too..a good mix

xweaponx 01-21-2008 11:14 AM

MobileHackerC,

To date the Voyager is available with Verizon contract only. Review the Voyager here...

http://reviews.cnet.com/cell-phones/...-32640927.html

I have owned LG devices and while LG makes some of the BEST multimedia phones currently, they have yet to venture the Pocket PC devices genre. After owning PPC's for the last 4 years, I could never go back to a non-smart device...

ETphoneHOME 01-21-2008 12:35 PM

lysolflow is a POS!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lysolflow (Post 164806)
how is it a dumb question when i got other people who are replyin to it... everybody got a simple response, but yo ugly ass (lookin at that avatar) had to come wit some smart response... be easy, fall back, or do both, lil lady...

Quote:

Originally Posted by lysolflow (Post 164849)
oh... ma bad... she aint ugly then... she straight... HEY LADY... U STRAIGHT...

but to this asshole... thanks for the stern talkin-to... now i'm more respectful than Beaver Cleaver...

"Jee golly, Wally... i hope this guy doesn't pop thru my computer and thrash me..." lol...

Damn! I hate it when people complain so damn much. Now you got me started. I'm complaining about people who complain! Look lysolflow, if your not happy then get your ass a damn computer. The mogul is a phuckin phone, what the phuck did you expect it to do? Change your diapers and wipe your skanky @ss? People come here to share info and help out one another. But when when you start trash talkin to peeps who come here and waste 45 seconds of their precious time to read your stupid a$$ thread, it lets everyone knows that your a complete idiot and a coward. Hiding behind your pos screen dissin people. WTF is wrong wit u!

Success100 01-21-2008 12:54 PM

Quote:

Damn! I hate it when people complain so damn much. Now you got me started. I'm complaining about people who complain! Look lysolflow, if your not happy then get your ass a damn computer. The mogul is a phuckin phone, what the phuck did you expect it to do? Change your diapers and wipe your skanky @ss? People come here to share info and help out one another. But when when you start trash talkin to peeps who come here and waste 45 seconds of their precious time to read your stupid a$$ thread, it lets everyone knows that your a complete idiot and a coward. Hiding behind your pos screen dissin people. WTF is wrong wit u!
AGREED-U STOLE THE WORDS RIGHT FROM MY MOUTH!!!

Quote:

chantelle is a hottie..and has brains too..a good mix
Also agreed!

Today 10:03 AM

lysolflow 01-21-2008 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ETphoneHOME (Post 164996)
Damn! I hate it when people complain so damn much. Now you got me started. I'm complaining about people who complain! Look lysolflow, if your not happy then get your ass a damn computer. The mogul is a phuckin phone, what the phuck did you expect it to do? Change your diapers and wipe your skanky @ss? People come here to share info and help out one another. But when when you start trash talkin to peeps who come here and waste 45 seconds of their precious time to read your stupid a$$ thread, it lets everyone knows that your a complete idiot and a coward. Hiding behind your pos screen dissin people. WTF is wrong wit u!

check me out then.... why don't u take your own advice.... obviously u didn't like what I said... and I told her it was a mistake in judgement.... i'm sure that the girl isn't gonna call u up and thank u for the way u stuck up for her on a forum... people mistake things.. but obviously since u didn't read and see that I told her my bad, then you sttin in the same boat as me, witcha weak ass..somebody stated it right earlier that it was a "wait. hold up... damn" kinda moment... but you think that u puttin ya two cents to stick up fo a girl (who obviousy aint worried about it cuz sh aint sad nothin about it) is get u any points.. u not gonna get a certificate... you not gonna get any congrats or medals... and honestly, I don't think I wasted any time typin this.... again.. fall back... be easy... or do both...

[sammich] 01-21-2008 09:45 PM

CLOSE YOUR MOUTHS AND TALK WITH RESPECT

Stop flaming. Seriously. We are all human and we can all speak like humans.

And especially have respect for women. If someone asks a dumb question, correct them, dont put them down. She may not have understood the question correctly.


Anyway, your best bet is to be smart with your memory. Make sure apps are closed by using HTC-X button or a task manager.




Forum moderator, I think you need to close this thread...

ricchini2007 01-21-2008 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lysolflow (Post 164806)
how is it a dumb question when i got other people who are replyin to it... everybody got a simple response, but yo ugly ass (lookin at that avatar) had to come wit some smart response... be easy, fall back, or do both, lil lady...


i think shes hott

laforr77 01-21-2008 11:45 PM

LOL this thread has turned into SOHH JBO...

muyoso 01-22-2008 12:40 AM

@ lysolflow

Is it really necessary for you to TYPE ghetto? Its fine if you want to speak that way, in incomplete sentences where no one can understand what you are saying, but seriously, try typing in sentences and try not to sound ignorant.

neilson 01-22-2008 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laforr77 (Post 165349)
LOL this thread has turned into SOHH JBO...

Speaking of Soulja Boy,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3pj6...eature=related

[sammich] 01-22-2008 01:03 AM

Guys, (and gals) this is getting out of control. Please stay on topic.

neilson 01-22-2008 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saumaun (Post 165395)
Guys, (and gals) this is getting out of control. Please stay on topic.

That's why I tried to reel things back in.

We can all unite behind Soulja Girl. It's a common bond that allows all of us to regroup and not regress.

[sammich] 01-22-2008 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neilson (Post 165396)
That's why I tried to reel things back in.

We can all unite behind Soulja Girl. It's a common bond that allows all of us to regroup and not regress.

I had a feeling you were trying to keep a lighter mood =]

hsanchez 01-22-2008 01:19 AM

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...o/untitled.jpg

ETphoneHOME 01-22-2008 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lysolflow (Post 165268)
check me out then.... why don't u take your own advice.... obviously u didn't like what I said... and I told her it was a mistake in judgement.... i'm sure that the girl isn't gonna call u up and thank u for the way u stuck up for her on a forum... people mistake things.. but obviously since u didn't read and see that I told her my bad, then you sttin in the same boat as me, witcha weak ass..somebody stated it right earlier that it was a "wait. hold up... damn" kinda moment... but you think that u puttin ya two cents to stick up fo a girl (who obviousy aint worried about it cuz sh aint sad nothin about it) is get u any points.. u not gonna get a certificate... you not gonna get any congrats or medals... and honestly, I don't think I wasted any time typin this.... again.. fall back... be easy... or do both...

Yeah, I'm falling back in my chair Laughing My F***ing A$$ Off!!! What a joke. Let me be considerate and stop now so you can stop making a clown out of yourself.. Not to mention all the people who are annoyed with this.

Success100 01-22-2008 04:55 PM

how about a mod just close this thread. its pointless, its like a cyber fight when people here will 9 times out of 10 never see one another. HOW BOUT THAT GUYZZ

[sammich] 01-22-2008 09:59 PM

I dont know here imcokeman is... he normally is the one who closes threads that get way out of whack here.

gguruusa 01-23-2008 02:12 AM

He's busy.

jah_rankin 01-23-2008 02:24 AM

Lips
 
Hmmmmmmmm!, She have some lips on her! :mrgreen:

qbunnie 01-23-2008 12:05 PM

The guys at pocketpctechs.com do memory upgrades for smartphones
The don't have one for the Titan, and they can't do the Apache.
The only HTC phone I know they do is the 9500.
But still, they haven't crossed the Titan off their list, so here's to wishful thinking.


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