Waiting for Superphone
 

I have officially given up on trying to make my Imagio perform better by making it faster or more stable. Between overclocking the CPU (btw 604mhz to 791mhz) and disabling all UI's (I'm just running the plain today screen with Easy Today Launcher), I am still not able to do what I consider daily basic functions without locking up the phone at some point. I need to use Google Maps (or Bing), play music, sync my contacts-calendar-email with google exchange on an "as received" basis (only because I cancelled my text plan with Verizon and just use Google Voice's free texting service which comes through on my email), and constantly run Fring (because I use Google Voice, Sipgate, and PBXes to make free VOIP calls from the phone. I also need Fring running for instant messaging). Trying to get my Imagio to do all of this everyday has been a very discouraging task. I have decided that instead of driving myself crazy and continuously hoping that I will come to this forum and see that my prayers have been answered and some genius has built an Android kernel for the Imagio, I will stick it out and patiently wait for Verizon to release the first:
4G (LTE Network) capable
2ghz CPU
Nvidia GPU
1 Gb or more of Ram
10mp & 1080p camera-camcorder
Android 3.0 OS
720p or higher resolution screen.

If the rumors are correct, I will not have to wait long. Maybe November or December. Latest will probably be January 2011. This is just my 2 cents......

but seriously, how much would you LOVE to have this super phone?!

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$999 pricetag off contract, $399 on contract... NO MARKET FOR THAT anytime soon.

2Ghz CPU i don't expect that mass-market in january '11. See Droid Incredible (which doesn't even run at full 1Ghz it clocks down to ~600MHz.. see system) and 4 hour battery life for a reality check. With what you're doing (to save a few bucks on a SMS plan) the battery life would be even less.

For what you're doing, you'd be better off changing to a more affordable network where you don't need to suck 50% battery/cpu to get the actual service you want.

Users such as yourself will ultimately kill Android in mass-market terms simply due to bandwidth suck. Once you're hooked on all that bandwidth and Verizon meters you it's game over.

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I am jumping ship to the X. Gonna take it like two weeks to get here but I have finally had it with these WinMo devices. I have been through 5 different WinMo devices and I am so sick of never having enough memory overhead to do anything.

- My Treo 700wx would lock up every time I opened the camera and/or browser
- My HTC Touch, although did have a good bit of overhead in the memory department, was so flimsy the case cracked in several different locations within weeks of getting it and was so slow it was not very practical.
- My HTC Touch Pro, was probably my favorite but still had very bad memory issues and constantly ran around 90% mem usage. Also, had to send this one back multiple times due to oil or something under the screen.
- My Samsung Omnia (actually my wifes), still has memory issues though not as bad since it was not running the HTC manilla, but the screen was impossible to see in the day light and did not respond well to finger inputs, which was stupid since the thing did not have an onboard stylus.
- My HTC Touch Pro 2, hated the size after I saw the imagio, so I switched. Still a mem hog but better then the Touch Pro.
- My HTC Imagio, so far has been my favorite phone and after several tweaks I have gotten it where I have about 35% memory available. Phone is still slow compared to the Droid. Also, limited support in the ROM devs, and I think ERGZ is the only one building right now.

- Moto Droid X - CAN'T WAIT. SOOOO LONG WINMO. ITS BEEN REAL BUT IT AIN'T BEEN REAL FUN!!!
=D>

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Well, even with LTE phones supposedly being released by the end of this year, LTE won't be up and running until much later, unless you live in a few select cities in the south. I'd like my next phone to be LTE, but I may have to wait until 2012 :/

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You don't have a clue. My Incredible on it's worst day had at least 8 hrs battery life and with a few tweaks it usually gets 14 to 16 hrs with a 1500 mAh batt. It is also extremely fast and will be even faster with froyo 2.2.
In other words it is not slow , laggy , or outdated like your Imagio and my Imagio.

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*sigh* the android fanboys are getting a little old now:disgust:

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Can you tether the Droid wired/wireless? Music? Video? Bluetooth voice dial and command?

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8-hours... yeah if you charge it periodically or do nothing at all with it. that still doesn't even last a day of work. PATHETIC.

sure the incredible is a decent device but no more than a 9 month old 2009 model HD2. oh yeah the HD2 has a better screen too. ROTFLMAO. I mean if you're going to pop off at least have a newer device that runs at 1GHZ (check incredible's cpu throttling) like droidX (also w/ better screen).

anyways comparing a new "superphone" (with bad battery life) to an old (last generation) WM6.5 device is super lame. especially when said outdated phone (imagio) can pretty much do ANYTHING i need (turn by turn gps, slingbox, exchange, outlook, calender, windowslive contact sync, ms office, browser, etc.) at this point.

get a clue

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im getting 1-2 days off a charge @ 825mhz. you must have some shitty reception, and/or your phone is always in 3G mode, which it shouldn't be.
power drain for 3G can easily be quintuple 1x mode. im checking weather & email every 15. twitter & facebook @ their minimums...
it is EASY to get this phone tweaked so that it looses *maybe* 5% battery life overnight.


i wouldn't want that phone at all. why would you want a single core cpu. why would you want a 2ghz cpu? ive never seen ANY app that needed more than 700mhz to run well. from remote desktop to playing back b-frame mtree 800*480 h264 video @ 20fps. just a waste of money.

i like my gf's incredible. nice touch screen. pretty snappy. unfortunately there isn't a single program worth mentioning avalible on android. seriously. its just more of the same useless crap. aside from look pretty that phone is no different than a normal dumbphone.

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and who cares about the resolution of cellphone cameras & videos? the resolution has long been inconsequential. the quality is crap regardless. the simple fact is that it's a tiny sensor, with crap optics in front of it. anyone that remotely cares about "large pixel images" or "HD video" is going to have something that doesn't suck. be it a DSLR and/or a camcorder.

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Is there any "superphone" that is a world phone i.e. has CDMA as well as quad-band GSM? The main reason I purchased an Imagio is so I can use it on the Verizon network in the U.S. and install a local SIM card when traveling in Europe and Asia.

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Dude , you starting ripping the incredible before I said a word. I never said it was a super phone. My battery lasts all day with a 1500 mAh batt. Most of the Imagios have to use the 2150 mAh batt to make it thru the day. I have had every HTC Windows Phone vzw has sold, xv 6700 thru the Imagio ( with all the custom roms) and none of them had enough ram or memory to work correctly . They all lagged , locked up and had to be rebooted daily. Now I have enough ram and memory for the phone to work correctly all day (with no lags or freezes ) like it is supposed to. Windows and HTC have never set up a phone to succeed ( lame processor and not enough memory) and custom roms can't change that. I have followed this thread since the beginning and I remember many posts about bad battery life with the Imagio and how everyone want an extended life battery , thus the 2150mAh batt.
All I am saying is that the Incredible is the first smartphone I have owned that worked like it suppose to out of the box. Plus we have 150,000 apps in the app store.

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unfortunately 149,997 of them are the same free crap you can find on every other platform. ;)

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Android Market has more useful, quality apps available than can be found for WinMo. And the app's that provide the same functionality as those available for WinMo...are generally of better design and easier to use.

I have always used Windows Mobile..and I'll be jumping ship to Android as soon as I'm eligible. Microsoft's apple-like rules for Windows Phone 7, has made that decision even easier!

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Do you people want a great phone or a great app store?

the two are very different.

and why do i see more and more threads on winmo boards talking about android explicitly? its a subjective thing, different people like different platforms.

as for the specs, well lets be serious, almost every month a phone comes out with new specs that blow one month old phones out of the water, the imagio came out how long ago and its being compared to the brand new incredible? thats ridiculous.

and if you owned every htc winmo phone released on verizon and they all worked poorly for you, why did you continue to buy them time and time again?

and lastly, all of these people are bashing wp7. how many of you have used the platform? been shipped a dev device? id say almost none.

love android, love iphone, love winmo, hell, even love webos, nobody cares. people come on these forums for information mainly. if i want to know about android ill go on the android boards. this is worthless clutter, and major trolling.

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I've found the posts in this thread very informative...up until yours. I enjoy reading posts debating the positive and negative between the different platforms. Also, remember, the topic of the thread is discussing the ultimate "superphone"...platform will come into play there.

Anyways..back on subject. Did you guys see the pictures of this leaked HTC prototype? 1.2 Ghz...possible dual core, not expected until 2011. That makes me think it's going to be a while before we see specs like those in the first post.

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Guys and girls, in all due respect, (and I do mean RESPECT because I am sure that most of you guys know more than I do) but you have either gotten off topic by accident, or never understood what this thread was supposed to be about.

I never mentioned anything about what OS was the best, and I never said anything about battery life issues. I am saying that I am not able to achieve the performance that I need from the Imagio. This is due mostly to insufficient hardware. If any of you know how to run all of the apps listed in the first post without the device slowing to a crawl or locking up, your advice would be greatly appreciated. I only mentioned Android 3.0 because it will be better than 2.2, and 2.2 is already better than my Win 6.5.

heydr mentioned people needing to decide if they want a great phone or a great app store and I disagree. First, with the right hardware, people can put multiple OS's on one phone and have access to multiple app stores. Secondly, any app that you "need" has already been created for most platforms. Also, with Google App Inventor, people can creat any app that they want for Android.

This thread was never meant to be about OS's or comparing current phones to other current phones. This thread is supposed to be about the future phones coming out in Nov, Dec, and/or Jan being able to do just about anything you want them to in a relatively speedy manner. I am excited about the future phones because they should allow me to get the performance out of a phone that I want.

Please focus your comments on the future phones coming out (the more you know the better, even if it just a rumor) or about ways that people can achieve stable and speedy performance running multiple apps with the Imagio. Thanks

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dan23945, thank you for noticing. Well stated.

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You've hit on exactly what makes the Imagio frustrating even to those of us who like it. It came out at the trailing edge of a period when it was OK to have a processor less than 1 ghz, and thus it became obsolete much quicker than most phones do.

And it can ALMOST do so many of the things the cutting edge phones do, or it can do them but just not as well.

I want my next phone to hold up better -- it will of course be obsolete long before I'm done using it, but hopefully not within a month. I think an HTC Android phone with a 1.2 ghz processor on Verizon's LTE network would hold up quite nicely even as better phones come out after it. So that's what I'm hoping to get this spring.

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Yeah, I just got the Droid X as a Bday gift and WOW!!!!! If I am this impressed with the Droid X (granted, I'm coming from the Imagio), then we will all be blown away with any phone that comes out with the specs listed in the first post! I really am completely satisfied with the Droid X. It does everything that I need. At least for now, maybe in the future I will get into Video Calling....

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im no fanboy, but the camera on my evo is the most important tool i have ever had at work. snapshots of documents straight to email is like having a scanner with me at all times. saves me from carrying around a briefcase full of random paperwork. now, if we just had better support for office :)

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A "SuperPhone" is really based upon personal preference and usage.

I, for one, like my imagio. At times it can be a bit slow to respond, but nothing all that terrible. I DO wish it it had the HD2 4.3" screen or even a 4" screen like my old HP Ipaq HP4700.

I like WinMo, I am used to it and have all the apps that I need. Could I get/want more? Sure, do I NEED them. Not now.

So, where do I get an HD2 (or better) running WinMo 6.5.x with a 4" or larger screen a camera with a flash/light running on the Verizon CDMA network with GSM world capabilities?

'nuff said.

Rick