Processor?
 

Supposed to have an 8xx Mhz snapdragon processor, how will that compare to the Evo or Epic?

What about the embedded GPU?

I have a TP2 and can't even run a movie encoded @ 320x240 in WMV without a hiccup. I know they're quite a few leaps ahead, but which one is the fastest?

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well based on my research and understanding the 800mhz processor in the evo shift is a 2nd generation snapdragon processor and even though it is underclocked from the 1ghz snapdragon is actually suppose to be more efficient and faster than the 1ghz 1st gen snapdragon found in the original evo. as far as how that compares to the epic is unknown to me I think the hummingbird processor is still ahead of the second gen snapdragon as it was well ahead of the first gen snapdragon in the evo so the 2nd gen might have msde up some ground but I dont believe it still compares. video playback with new phones is completely different with hd video recording and playback regular movies wont cause any problems I watch vidoes online with my browser with few lags and downloaded movies with no problem on my evo.

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+1 You pick up a keyboard and second gen processor but lose a front facing camera and screen real-estate basically

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The CPU SMOKES the TP2

It's 800 Mhz and runs everything smoothly. Remember, you don't want a CPU as fast as possible, you want a CPU just fast enough to meet your needs, and no faster, because at that point all you are doing is running your battery down faster.

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My question is how noticeable/significant is the power boost in the Shift's 2nd gen processor vs the Evo's 1st gen processor? And in what areas do you see the boosts?

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+1 for John80 .

Awesome research man. The fact that it is a 2nd gen Snapdragon allows it to run real close speed wise with the 1GHZ 1st gen snap dragon.

With the smaller screen and less power consumed by the whole package, it should have excellent battery life.

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Saw video somewhere of a head to head EVO Shift vs. EVO. The Shift was faster as far as megaflops. Don't know exactley what that means. But I do know, my Shift is considerably faster than my TP2 ever was. My TP2 was OC'd to 729mHz w/ a jump to 768mHz. Loving my Shift :D

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well that battery statement is not true, well not for me and lots of others i see in forums. its not terrible or anything but my epic is better.

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I just unpacked my Shift this morning and started playing with it. Initially it seems slower than the Evo.

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It's important to distinguish between cpu performance and graphics performance. The qualcomm and samsung processor SoC's have a general purpose CPU and a dedicated graphics engine. In general...

1. Qualcomm's snapdragon cpu at 1GHz is faster than Samsung's Hummingbird.
2. The Shift uses an 800MHz version of Snapdragon. Probably a little slower.
3. The Samsung graphics engine is the Power 540. The fastest currently shipping on an SoC.
4. The Qualcomm graphics engine on Evo is Adreno 200. Shift uses new 205.
5. The Adreno 205 is much faster (4x) vs 200 and almost as fast as the 540. It also has dedicated HW decode for Flash.

So the overall user experience is based on a combination of cpu and graphics performance and response. The CPU used in the Shift isn't as fast as the Evo but it's close. Probably about the same performance as Samsung. The Shift's graphics processor is much faster than the EVO and just a little slower than Samsung. More info here:

What is Adreno 205 and how does it compare to other GPUs? - Smartphone Benchmarks (SmartBench 2010/Quadrant) Forum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(processor)

I have a EVO I bought the wife a Shift. It scores about 1600+ in quadrant and 55+ FPS Out if the box. It's very nice but the screen is small compared to the EVO. It's pretty light if you have or had a TP2 its much lighter than that. Nice phone if you want a keyboard.

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Here's the WireFly video comparison of the Samsung Epic and the EVO Shift:
YouTube - HTC EVO Shift 4G vs. Samsung Epic 4G Schmackdown!

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No..its not..the Hummingbird clock for clock if definitely faster then a 1st gen snapdragon and around equal clock for clock with a 2nd gen in terms of raw CPU...

Even at 800mhz its on par with a 1st gen 1ghz snapdragon cpu wise..

ok..

Yes...

4x is pushing it.. its 2x around...and for the record the Hummingbird is 2x more powerful then the Adreno 205 GPU...Adreno dither things at 16bit..while Hummingbird is doing things at 24bit..if you benchmark using both dithering at 16bit you will see the hummingbird eat the Adreno 205 for breakfast..

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gTen: Did you check the link I included in my post? It contains some quantitative benchmark results which backup some of the qualitative comments I made. I've also seen some other references which I unfortunately cannot share that are consistent with the one's I provided.

We can quibble over the details, but I think you'd agree that the overall experience delivered by the CPU and GPU combination in the Shift is faster than the Evo and nearer to the Galaxy as a result of the revised GPU.

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Yes I did, but the links you provided, the data is outdated...I mean for one they are measuring 2.1(on Galaxy S) vs 2.2(on the G2)..2nd they are not accounting for VFP and 16/24bit dithering and fps cap..

I agree that its better then the Evo, yes..I also agree that the CPU is closer(so if Evo shift was clocked at 1ghz they would be around same clock for clock)..but the GPU on the Galaxy S is 2x better still...so in terms of GPU it looks like this:

EVO->2x better->Evo shift->2x better->Galaxy S

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not to beat a dead horse.... but i'll take my shift oc'd to 1.5ghz anyday over an epic or an evo. why? performance and battery life. i consistently pull 1800+ quadrant and 55+ linpack..... so i'm good with the performance. oh and my battery lasts me all day long and then some(background data, gps, and full animation enabled). so in the end, i can actually use the full functionality of my phone and not have to charge it every 6 hours. i was hesitant at first mainly because there hasn't been a huge following and the processor is 800mhz... but in the end, no doubt about it, i'm happy with the purchase.

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^What he said. The Shift is a great phone, I was really excited to root it and flash custom ROMS, but with it pulling 2150's in quadrant and 57 fps on the stock rom OC'd to 1.5 GHz I see no need to flash. At least not until we have some more refined offerings. I knew how to cook a little bit for WM but Android seems a LOT more complicated.